Hello everyone
I had a strange lucid dream last night, and wondered if anyone could shed some light on it, as I'm finding it unusual, to the point of discarding it.
My lucidity was very high for the most part, but I remember trying to touch things and hold them to retain lucidity. I also recall a person dressed as a clown/magician who stood out from the rest and I assumed he was important, therefore I focused on him and talked for a while with him. Anyway, that's sidelining what I wanted to share.
Before I share, I just want to say that I cannot recall knowing the word "Siva" and certainly had no idea what it meant. I have extremely little knowledge of hinduism. OK, here goes.
I am in a house with a family. I am not part of the family, but have gone to visit (I think). There is mother, father, son and daughter. I don't know the first three, but I am there to see the daughter. They tell me that she is upstairs. I know that she is around 10 years old, and that her name is Siva.
I ask if I can go and see Siva again, for I haven't seen her in a long long time.
I go upstairs and there she is. I say, "Hello!! It's so good to see you again, how lovely to meet again, how are you doing..." and all that kind of stuff. There is definitely recognition on my part. It's like meeting up with a long lost friend.
She looks at me as if she's never seen me before, totally puzzled.
That's all I remember about the dream.
The thing that struck me the most once I'd awoken is that normally in F3 situations, it is the other way round, in that people greet you warmly and you haven't a clue who they are. In this experience, it was I who knew her. Although once I'd awoken, I wondered what it was all about, as I have no recollection of 'her' or 'Siva'. Neither means anything to me in physical reality.
I've done a google on Siva and find that it's a hindu god, the destroyer god, but again, this doesn't particularly mean anything to me.
I'm tempted to bin it - thinking it's one of those 'confuddling' F2 nonsense experiences - but before I do, thought I'd share it here just in case someone has a brainwave...
Sarah
What was the house like? I had an experience a few years back with Siva. It seemed the destructive element was being shown as there were lots of dismembered corpses etc. I met Siva in a large house (mansion like).
And what Siva looked like ?
It's spelled "Siva", but I'm pretty sure it's pronounced Shee-Va (I may be wrong). How was it pronounced in the dream? Did you know how it was spelled from the dream?
Just found the experience out from where I posted it elsewhere, thats if anyones itnerested :)
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I wont go into details about how I came to be in the place, as I don't
really know. I was in a foreign country, I had the idea of India or there
about. The dream started with me having a task, I couldn't complete this
task totally within the physical plane. I went to a temple with many floors,
it was full of people. I was searching out a shaman. I had done this before,
that's something I knew at the time.
I found the shaman and he told me to lie down, he placed his hands on my
head, the backed away and started chanting, I went with he flow and my
vision blurred and I felt distant. Then I was completely lucid and standing
in a large house. This place was "bad." It wasn't a place within the human
sphere. I don't exactly know what my task here was, but I had the idea that
this was the place of a deity, Shiva?
it was old and ancient, large windows streamed in what I can only describe
as winter light, that clear penetrating light.
Somehow my ex-girlfriend had crossed the boundary with me too, which was
scary as I didn't want the responsibility of looking after her in this place
too. We started exploring the house, but we saw people, other women here in
saris (sp?) they were moving inline, with their arms out, there was an over
all knowing in this house. There was decapitated bodies, body parts too,
appearing and disappearing. Its impossible to convey the back ground
feeling.
My ex started to kiss me, but the awareness in the house kept projecting
another woman over the body of my ex, so it seemed I was kissing this other
woman. Then I was back in the temple. But my ex hadn't made it. She was
still in that place. An awareness told me that I could never go back to that
place, and my ex was there due to me. It said she never wanted anything off
me, but in the house I imposed my protection over her, this is something she
didn't want/couldn't have. So she would remain there and no one could bring
her back, the implications of this were more profound then just remaining in
that house.
I was now in a pond with large rushes and lilly pads, I could see a large
house on my right, it was surrounded by a large cast iron fence. The
awareness told me I could never go back, as I had been there twice already.
Later on, I was in a town near a road, there seem to be large eyes all
around me, on stands sticking up from the earth, But then I saw they were
just metallic spheres on sticks which were reflecting a blue circle graffiti
onto a near by wall. They kept going from normal eyes, to these metallic
reflecting spheres. I thought something to do with tripping. Then I saw
something coming towards me, it was a graffiti image of a truck, with a
driver in, it was coming into existence as it drove towards me, I recognised
it for some reason, when it was near me, it was a normal truck, someone
pulled the window down and started shooting at a group of people near us.
Everyone ran into the town. In the town we came upon a group of young
people, there was a strange, deranged old man there, he had a blade. He told
a girl in the group he wanted to give her the mark. She agreed, and turned
her back to him. I had a very bad feeling, I thought he was going to stab
her in the back, he put the blade to her back and cut from shoulder to the
small of her back, cutting open her clothes. He then stuck the knife in the
top of her back, and drew blood. She put some of this blood on her forehead.
Others started to be marked in this way too and an orgy was commencing with
the marked people, I ran (I was with an unknown girl) as I knew with
certainty that once everyone had been marked, they would hunt down us
unmarked people.
I was running to the centre of the town, a house? but there was a powerful
awareness/entity/power trying to keep us away. My awareness was dimming and
I had to fight every step to move forward towards the centre, horrific
images were shown to us to try and make us run back or go mad, strange
ghastly faces hanging in air mouthing strange words. We made it to the
centre and there was someone there, a woman?
That's the main part, the rest is hazy and more to do with feelings and
perceptions.
QuoteWhat was the house like?
MisterJingo - it was a normal semi-detached kind of house. I didn't really take much notice of it, to be honest.
Good to hear that you also met with Siva - at least I'm not totally barking mad. :grin:
QuoteAnd what Siva looked like ?
Sepultura123 - If you're directing your question to me, in my experience Siva looked like a non-descript run-of-the-mill 10 year old girl. :confused:
QuoteHow was it pronounced in the dream? Did you know how it was spelled from the dream?
Stookie - I knew it was "Siva" in the dream. Pronounced Seeva. When I awoke, I had vague memories of knowing something called Shiva, but I knew that wasn't what I had experienced. Mine was Siva. I was actually surprised to find that the word had such a meaning to it - the destroyer god.
I'm still unsure as to what it was all about. I guess since I've started having many more regular lucid dreams, I tend to put more importance on them compared to non-lucid ones. And maybe one can have those "silly" lucid dreams too.
The meaning of Siva (destroyer god) just doesn't really fit with the 10 year old girl. :dont-know:
Oh well, another morning, another mystery... :smile:
Sarah
MisterJingo
Thank you for sharing that - that was some experience. Were you lucid throughout it all? How did you remember it?
Sounds absolutely frightening and rather disturbing. Did you make sense of it all?
Experiencing something like that would have given me shivers for days afterwards.
Sarah
Quote from: SelskiMisterJingo
Thank you for sharing that - that was some experience. Were you lucid throughout it all? How did you remember it?
Sounds absolutely frightening and rather disturbing. Did you make sense of it all?
Experiencing something like that would have given me shivers for days afterwards.
Sarah
I wasn't too lucid at the beginning, and it got hazy at the end (a lot of my experience seem to follow that trend). For the main part my awareness was very clear and lucid. The experience is quite clear to my memory now (it happened around 3 years ago), although this seems to be the norm. To perhaps sound unhinged, I occasionally have to think for a second if a certain memory is actually a 'real' memory or one gained from a dream or experience.
If I'm honest, I haven't made sence of much of it :). Although i've got a lot of similar journal entries which I might find the meaning behind one day. The ex in the dream was someone I parted from badly, it took around 3 years to get over her fully - so i'm not sure if the feelings I had at the time influenced the direction of the experience.
We got to make things clear.
A lucid dreams is not a dreams where you remember it but a dream that you know that you're in and a dream that can be altered. Like thinking about flying and BAM your in the air having fun not thinking about your dream scenario.
Quote from: MisterJingoJust found the experience out from where I posted it elsewhere, thats if anyones itnerested :)
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I wont go into details about how I came to be in the place, as I don't
really know. I was in a foreign country, I had the idea of India or there
about. The dream started with me having a task, I couldn't complete this
task totally within the physical plane. I went to a temple with many floors,
it was full of people. I was searching out a shaman. I had done this before,
that's something I knew at the time.
I found the shaman and he told me to lie down, he placed his hands on my
head, the backed away and started chanting, I went with he flow and my
vision blurred and I felt distant. Then I was completely lucid and standing
in a large house. This place was "bad." It wasn't a place within the human
sphere. I don't exactly know what my task here was, but I had the idea that
this was the place of a deity, Shiva?
it was old and ancient, large windows streamed in what I can only describe
as winter light, that clear penetrating light.
Somehow my ex-girlfriend had crossed the boundary with me too, which was
scary as I didn't want the responsibility of looking after her in this place
too. We started exploring the house, but we saw people, other women here in
saris (sp?) they were moving inline, with their arms out, there was an over
all knowing in this house. There was decapitated bodies, body parts too,
appearing and disappearing. Its impossible to convey the back ground
feeling.
My ex started to kiss me, but the awareness in the house kept projecting
another woman over the body of my ex, so it seemed I was kissing this other
woman. Then I was back in the temple. But my ex hadn't made it. She was
still in that place. An awareness told me that I could never go back to that
place, and my ex was there due to me. It said she never wanted anything off
me, but in the house I imposed my protection over her, this is something she
didn't want/couldn't have. So she would remain there and no one could bring
her back, the implications of this were more profound then just remaining in
that house.
I was now in a pond with large rushes and lilly pads, I could see a large
house on my right, it was surrounded by a large cast iron fence. The
awareness told me I could never go back, as I had been there twice already.
Later on, I was in a town near a road, there seem to be large eyes all
around me, on stands sticking up from the earth, But then I saw they were
just metallic spheres on sticks which were reflecting a blue circle graffiti
onto a near by wall. They kept going from normal eyes, to these metallic
reflecting spheres. I thought something to do with tripping. Then I saw
something coming towards me, it was a graffiti image of a truck, with a
driver in, it was coming into existence as it drove towards me, I recognised
it for some reason, when it was near me, it was a normal truck, someone
pulled the window down and started shooting at a group of people near us.
Everyone ran into the town. In the town we came upon a group of young
people, there was a strange, deranged old man there, he had a blade. He told
a girl in the group he wanted to give her the mark. She agreed, and turned
her back to him. I had a very bad feeling, I thought he was going to stab
her in the back, he put the blade to her back and cut from shoulder to the
small of her back, cutting open her clothes. He then stuck the knife in the
top of her back, and drew blood. She put some of this blood on her forehead.
Others started to be marked in this way too and an orgy was commencing with
the marked people, I ran (I was with an unknown girl) as I knew with
certainty that once everyone had been marked, they would hunt down us
unmarked people.
I was running to the centre of the town, a house? but there was a powerful
awareness/entity/power trying to keep us away. My awareness was dimming and
I had to fight every step to move forward towards the centre, horrific
images were shown to us to try and make us run back or go mad, strange
ghastly faces hanging in air mouthing strange words. We made it to the
centre and there was someone there, a woman?
That's the main part, the rest is hazy and more to do with feelings and
perceptions.
Wow! When you have a nightmare you don't mess around! :shock:
Quote from: Sepultura123We got to make things clear.
A lucid dreams is not a dreams where you remember it but a dream that you know that you're in and a dream that can be altered. Like thinking about flying and BAM your in the air having fun not thinking about your dream scenario.
I know that :). I've been having lucid dreams since childhood. A lucid dream to me usually starts with the realisation that I'm actually dreaming. This usually sees an immediate transformation in my sorroundings - they take on a more '3D' feel - and my mind takes on the quality of waking day consiousness.
There are different levels of lucidity though. Someotimes one can be aware one is dreaming, but still take absurd (or things which do not mach reality) things as normal. Other levels of lucidity see the mind burning much brighter than it does in reality (for me at least).
Edit: I'd just like to add, for me atleast, becoming fully lucid is not a guarentee that I control the environment. Sometimes the environment is totally solid. other times, like a few nights ago, I could fly, use different 'psychic' powers, even transform other characters into what i desired them to be.
Quote from: CFTravelerWow! When you have a nightmare you don't mess around! :shock:
Lol, I took this to be not too bad an experience! :) I'll have to find out some of those I felt were nightmarish for comparison :grin: .
I was having some experience when I was very young that I could control my dream or become ''lucid'' . When a scary dreams or a boring one was on my view I could only shut my eye in the dream and count and open them later and there was a totally new dreams to explore for me.
I didnt know lucid dreams back then but its like 5 days that im interested to them and I do them every night for 3 days. I dont know why.
ALWAYS. Im outdoot of my house beside the road (my house is near a road) and im always lucid when im beginning to see the dream ... Usually I just fly , im becoming good. Yesterday I tried to do telekinisis. There was an little bird half dead on the ground :lol: I tried to move it with my mind like that he refound the ability to fly and he flyed like 5 feets and returned to the ground . :lol:
After that I tryed to burn my house but it didnt work . Maybe I can't destroy something that my physical body is in :lol: .
Thirdly , I seen a car on the road and tryed to jump over it with a super trick (like double backflip) but I just done an random trick dont remember just what I done but it was not so great. But still I jumped the car :)
Finally I began to fly and tryed the superman method. Before I was always in Neo style head first but I tryed and it work but I keep drifting in a sitting-like position so is was weird. I returned to Neo style and beginning to go to my friend house to play with him (and maybe play with his dream safely :lol: )
But when I seen his house I drowned and awake short after...
When you fly can you fly as high as you want to? I ask as a lot of the time I sort of hit a 'ceiling' which seems to be roof-top level. My theory on this is that I have knowledge of my area from the ground, but from above the roof tops, its an unknown. So a barrier seems to exist at that level. When I do get above the roof tops, the area always bears very little resemblence to reality (the layout changes, styles of houses change etc), but when on the ground, things are pretty much the same (I guess because I have an extensive knowledge of my area from the ground level - but not above).
I never tryed to fly as high as I can ... I have more important to do but I will try soon.
But I dont think I could do it because im not so good at flying I just beginned and when I was trying to get high , i couldnt fully do it.
When you lucid dream , are you always outdoor of your house or you're some time in a random dream location ?
Quote from: MisterJingoWhen you fly can you fly as high as you want to? I ask as a lot of the time I sort of hit a 'ceiling' which seems to be roof-top level. My theory on this is that I have knowledge of my area from the ground, but from above the roof tops, its an unknown. So a barrier seems to exist at that level. When I do get above the roof tops, the area always bears very little resemblence to reality (the layout changes, styles of houses change etc), but when on the ground, things are pretty much the same (I guess because I have an extensive knowledge of my area from the ground level - but not above).
When I started to fly in my dreams I couldn't go past the height of the power and telephone lines due to a fear of getting caught up in them ( didn't know that at the time). This was when I was very young and had a little trouble with heights, but as I grew out of that fear I found that I could fly higher and higher. Now I know that there is no limit to how high you can fly as you are quite safe and can exit the dream whenever you want. :superman:
Quote from: MisterJingoThe experience is quite clear to my memory now (it happened around 3 years ago), although this seems to be the norm. To perhaps sound unhinged, I occasionally have to think for a second if a certain memory is actually a 'real' memory or one gained from a dream or experience.
If you're unhinged, you're not the only one - I also get dream memories and 'real' memories muddled up. To the point of having someone tell me that they didn't say *whatever* to me when I was sure that they did - only to come to the conclusion that I must have dreamt it.
Quote from: MisterJingoIf I'm honest, I haven't made sence of much of it :). Although i've got a lot of similar journal entries which I might find the meaning behind one day. The ex in the dream was someone I parted from badly, it took around 3 years to get over her fully - so i'm not sure if the feelings I had at the time influenced the direction of the experience.
One day it might mean something. Some of my dreams take years to 'make sense'. I think the ex and your feelings relating to her were mixed up in the dream. However the fact that it is still a vivid experience even now, many years later, suggests to me that there is more meaning in it.
I had an experience about 2 years ago. It started out as an OBE and then went into one of those strange lucid dreamy type things. It was really long and detailed, but during it, I found myself drawn to these huge man-made bright yellow forms of transport. I was surprised at my reaction to these machines - I'm not the type to get excited by stuff like that.
I now live in a new development and they are still building all around me. I am surrounded by bright yellow man-made machines (JCBs and the like), and it did cross my mind that the dream may have been showing me a small glimpse of my future.
Who knows?! Not I. :lol:
Sarah
If you started out as an OBE its surely because you were in a low plane and your surrounding was mixed with OBE and dreams scene...
Dont think that was an lucid dream , unless you thinked about LD and switch to them.
Well, I don't know if this helps at all or not, but from what I know of hinduism, specifically in the tantra shastra texts, Siva is usually represented as the male aspect of God. It is the seat of intellect, static power, centered in the head. I usually see Siva linked with Shakti, which is the female aspect of God and is a dynamic form, the goddess Kali is a form of Shakti. Shakti resides in the root chakra, asleep. Shakti is also called kundalini, which is probably more familiar to people. It is believed that while Siva and Shakti are seperated, the outside world exists. But at their union (when shakti rises from the root to the crown chakra) then union with Brahma, the One, the All, God, whatever you call the ultimate deity occurs. But Siva and Shakti are seen as the two main aspects of God -- duality in every sense.
Again, I'm not an expert, but I have read quite a bit. So when you mention Siva, my first thought is the intellectual, all knowing form of God in Hindu religion.
The dream could have simply been that, a dream. But I also do not believe in coincidences. So if you never heard of Siva before the dream, then I think there is a message of some kind for you in the dream.