Howdy folks my name is rusty i am new to astral projection i hope someone can help me.
Here are some questions i have about astral projection.
#1 Is it safe
#2 Has anyone ever died doing this?
#3 I have been a bad boy will i project myself into hell?
#4 Will i be able to access higher planes or confined to lower ones?
#5 What if i get scared
#6 How do i leave the astral plane?
#7 How can i tell the difference between mind creations and something real (i mean monsters)?
#8 My uncle just passed away yesterday can i visit him on the astral plane?
I hope someone out there can answer these questions i am a curios cat.
Sincerely:Rusty Shackleford
1 yes
2 no
3 yes
4 both
5 you won't project
6 when you loose focus
7 everything is from the mind
8 yes but it won't really be him
Howdy partner thanks for the reply: so if i understand correctly anything i experience during astral projection is my own mind creation. And thats why if i think i am projecting to hell i will go to hell.
And thats why if i visit my uncle it won't be him but only my preception of him am i right?
To clarify when i asked what happens if i get scared you said i wont be able to project what i
meant was what if i get scared on the astral plane after i have already projected?
And #6 i don't understand what you mean lose focus lose focus of what. I want to know how to
end my experience if i choose to.
As a beginner you don't have to worry about how to get back, cause you won't be able to stay out for long. But to get back just think of wanting to get back to your body, or just think of your body or try to wiggle your toes.
I do not think you'll be projecting into hell. As a beginner, you won't be able to reach the higher planes immediately, but you will not go to hell.
And yes you can meet your uncle. The deceased can communicate with you there, so it doesn't necessarily have to mean it's your mind making it up.
Is astral travel safe? Yes and no. You should know how to protect yourself, so try learning more information about this.
Has anyone ever died? If anyone has, we would never know.
Quote#1 Is it safe
#2 Has anyone ever died doing this?
#3 I have been a bad boy will i project myself into hell?
#4 Will i be able to access higher planes or confined to lower ones?
#5 What if i get scared
#6 How do i leave the astral plane?
#7 How can i tell the difference between mind creations and something real (i mean monsters)?
#8 My uncle just passed away yesterday can i visit him on the astral plane?
1. Yes it is safe
2. Not to my knowledge
3. I used to burglarize businesses and I project routinely now, no hell. Hell is just a false creation. (Learning all that I have from my own projections has taught me to be a better person, and to strive to be even better)
4. It all depends on your mindset and intentions. I think naturally as you grow as an individual spiritually you are drawn into other planes of existence that match up to your vibrations. It's like that old saying like attracts like.
5. If you get scared before a projection you will most likely force yourself out of the state needed for projection, if you get scared during a projection you will manifest your fears [usually]
6. If you want to go back to your body all you have to do is think of the physical body. What I do when I want to leave is think about sitting up in the physical and I come to in my body as it is sitting up, easy as that [at least for me]
7. When you leave your body even the things you create are real, as real as the things that were already there. The difference is that once you ignore something of your own creation it usually dissolves/disappears because there is no longer any conscious/subconscious belief or focus on that creation. What holds other creations together in the astral is a rather large number of people believing or focusing on those creations. For instance if everyone in the astral and physical simultaneously believed heaven or hell do not really exist, it would cease to exist. I have previously stated I do not believe in neither heaven or hell, what I mean by this is that it is a man made creation built from false beliefs and expectations. To me they resemble a false existence.
8. Yes. I previously spoken to a deceased person and Im sure he would laugh if I thought he didn't really exist. As a child also when my grandmother died I spoke to her in a semi-waking state and it was really her. I do not understand why the other guy said it wouldnt really be him. If you are objective enough with your intent you will speak to the real deal, if you are too subjective Im sure it would be possible for you to create an image in his likeness and in that case it wouldnt really be him. The key is to be objective and not too emotional or you can corrupt the experience. Good luck.
Howdy TL,Yang,Envix: See i am learning already so much to learn so little time thanks for the lesson.
My belief is that your mind creates your reality, so if you believe something to be of what you would call "reality", then that is what reality would be for you. If you think you've been bad, then you have only been bad by your definition. If you expect to see consequences of this, then you will. They will not necessarily be direct consequences of the actions you consider to be "bad", however you will perceive them as such. Something could happen to you completely unrelated to your actions but if your expectation was to see consequences, then your mind will form any excuse to connect your actions to any seemingly related consequences.
In other words, If you believe you've been bad, and expect, even at the lowest subconscious level, that you will go to hell, then that is where you will go. You could do the same thing you would consider bad; and if you saw it as good, and expected good consequences i.e. that you will go to heaven, then you will go to heaven.
As for your uncle, if you had an emotional tie with him on the physical plane that has carried on up until his death, then you will continue to be connected, on that level. Therefore, if you meet what you think is your uncle on the astral plane, then that will (in a sense) be your actual uncle, as it is comprised of the memories and experiences you've had with him.
As far as beliefs go, If you're talking about the actual energy that made up his soul while he was on the physical plane, I believe that would have been recycled back into the energy stream already, be it reincarnation or nirvana. I believe that "god" is the process of energy being distributed and recycled throughout this spectrum of reality. The "godself", being both individual and part of the entire being which makes up "god".
However this is just a belief; it does not make it reality... (or does it??) :-o
reality is subjective. This does mean that if one believes it is objective, then it is objective. what a paradox!
Quote from: Envix on July 15, 2009, 20:57:14
reality is subjective. This does mean that if one believes it is objective, then it is objective. what a paradox!
If I may, reality must have both a subjective and objective component, or else your subjective reality and my subjective reality will never overlap, as it is doing right now.
QuoteMy belief is that your mind creates your reality, so if you believe something to be of what you would call "reality", then that is what reality would be for you. If you think you've been bad, then you have only been bad by your definition.
I see what you are saying here but belief is different than reality. What I mean is for example what I quoted above if you believe something it doesn't make it a reality especially in the physical, all that you are doing is creating a belief not a reality. I think you are pointing out a subjective aspect of what some would view as reality. If you believe certain things then when you experience something contrary to your beliefs your mind will find a way of incorporating the contrary point and turning it around to prove to yourself that your belief on reality is right. What I'm saying about reality though is that [literally] our minds right now mold this reality and keep it in existence and stable [collectively]. One of my points also about reality is that no matter how advanced our technology advances in the search for the "building blocks" of matter they will never find them.
The closer they look they will see seemingly empty space with particles inside. Then when they look closer at that particle they will see they are just empty space with another particle inside....etc. Conversely the same thing will apply in reverse with exploration of our universe they will eventually see that our universe is just a universe within a universe. Seemingly empty space with planets/stars..etc inside. Perhaps Im going off topic here in a rant. My thoughts and experiences though are really heard to put into words. Things that you think about and experience while out of the body are really hard to articulate. But an example of what I am saying about the way I see reality as working is that it works on many levels not just on the physical level. It seems our minds all exist and traverse not only the physical but at the same time at the astral [like our individual minds are part of a sea of consciousness, all connected]. So when you picture something you want to create, like an invention for instance at that moment you are actually creating it in the astral.
If your intent is strong enough eventually you will manifest it into the physical ie. building it or whatever. That entire time though that invention already existed in the astral simply by being thought up by you. Which would explain when people have these completely original ideas that they think no one else could possibly come up with. Later someone else comes up with the same thing, since your idea was manifested into the astral reality anyone else' mind had access to it. Also at the same time when you see it this way you can not be sure that you actually came up with that idea in the first place, how would you know that you did not subconsciously experience someone else' idea in the astral and think it was your own. Which also would explain someone coming up with an idea out of the blue that they wander how or where they came up with that idea. This idea of reality applies on so many different levels it would not be possible to explain it all in one post.
QuoteIf your intent is strong enough eventually you will manifest it into the physical ie. building it or whatever. That entire time though that invention already existed in the astral simply by being thought up by you. Which would explain when people have these completely original ideas that they think no one else could possibly come up with. Later someone else comes up with the same thing, since your idea was manifested into the astral reality anyone else' mind had access to it. Also at the same time when you see it this way you can not be sure that you actually came up with that idea in the first place, how would you know that you did not subconsciously experience someone else' idea in the astral and think it was your own. Which also would explain someone coming up with an idea out of the blue that they wander how or where they came up with that idea. This idea of reality applies on so many different levels it would not be possible to explain it all in one post.
Beautifully put.
Consciousness itself is not objective, but all things objective
are consciousness :-P. It's through our subjectivity (self-awareness) that we can perceive objectively.
Everything is completely real when our subjective thoughts agree about the perceived objectivity. A reason why "fake heaven" & "fake hell" exists.
Removing our subjective thoughts about the perceived objective things maybe brings a true perception of those things, or even reality itself, I suppose a merging of the perceiver and perceived, all things experienced as a single consciousness.
Without subjectivity, can objectivity even exist?
Quote from: Stookie on July 16, 2009, 16:03:07
Without subjectivity, can objectivity even exist?
Does a tree falling in the forest make a sound when nobody is around to hear it? That sort of thing? :)
The confusion helps me sleep at night.
#1 Is it safe
yes - why project if it wasn't..:)
#2 Has anyone ever died doing this?
no, been projecting for 20+ years.. still around.
#3 I have been a bad boy will i project myself into hell?
i have been bad, good, inbetween and i still project. although i try to be a better person
from experiences of the the past. you will still project no matter what.
#4 Will i be able to access higher planes or confined to lower ones?
yes, takes a lot of energy
#5 What if i get scared
we all get scared, even the people who projected all their lives.. we are human and each moment has its time and place to be safe or scarred.
#6 How do i leave the astral plane?
raising vibrations, traveling upward but inward too at the same time
#7 How can i tell the difference between mind creations and something real (i mean monsters)
alot of it will be how you interact with the mind creation vs. the real thing. ex: i have commiunicated with dazed our, possible mind creations that just sputter in their non-sense and vocab.. When you encounter angels, spiritual beings - they do not screw around.. very quick, precise in execution, ahead 2-3 steps all the time and know everything what is going on... i have had this opportunity and a honor to experience this first hand many times.
#8 My uncle just passed away yesterday can i visit him on the astral plane?
my mom passed away a year, i have made contact with her various times.. its still tough coming back to physical because i have to face that loss, but in spirit she is always there to connect with.
hope that answers some of your questions?
tvos
Howdy tvos thanks so much i have not projected yet but you have eased my fear. I will try to project with out any fear now and also try djmidgetmans advice. Thanks again!!!