Scared Senseless!!!!!!

[knightlight]

I was laying in bed last night and I was drifting off to sleep and suddenly I heard a scraping sound by my head.  One of my hands was over the top edge of my bed and I felt something bump against my fingers and then I felt teeth and a tongue on my finger!  :aargh:   I jumped up so fast and turned on my lights I think I broke a world record.  I checked my room over about a million times but nothing was there and both my parents cats where locked in the basement during the night as usual.  My heart was pounding so fast I thought I was going to have a heart attack.  I cant figure out what happened, I am assuming it was some kind of hallucination on the border of sleep but that was just about the scariest thing that has ever happened to me, I spent the next hour laying in bed exhausted but not able to sleep because I thought whatever it was was going to come back....  

[Vilkate]

Every time I feel I might have defeated my fears, somebody has an experience like this and all my hopes are ruined once again...

If serious, this sounds terrifying!  :evilbat:  My first reaction would have probably been a SCREAM and then some serious bed beating...

[-E-]

Man, that doesnt sound nice, ive had a few different experiances kinda like this, but only once or twice have i actually felt something on me, it feels so unatural and disturbing.

dam these things

[Vilkate]

Umm, ok, my human mind is attempting to find an explanation for this...

1.Did the presence of the being seem threatening, was there an aura of dread apart from your own emotions?

2.If not.. Have you had a pet that has passed?

[Nay]

You were OOB, and it was just a fear.

[Vilkate]

I think that when we experience such things, we cannot see them as simply fears.... Instincts overcome the knowledge.

[Nay]

LOL. OK, it was astral entity, now what?

[blade5x]

Every time I feel I might have defeated my fears, somebody has an experience like this and all my hopes are ruined once again...

If serious, this sounds terrifying!  :evilbat:  My first reaction would have probably been a SCREAM and then some serious bed beating...

Yeah I think I'm just going to stop reading topics like this    

Yet another night my LCD screen will not turn off.

[Job]

I remember laying in bed once as a kid. Then suddenly a large green hairy armed reached out under my bed and grabbed me. I managed to shake it off and it went back under the bed.

What I didn't know then was that I had fallen asleep and was in another dimension--I was in the astral plane.

For entities such as that there are always conjurations which can be done for protection. Conjurations: as in words which have power over negative influences, including entities:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080&highlight=bellilin

[Nay]

WHAT is everyone so afraid of, really??  YOU cannot be hurt..  So, some screen won't go off.. does that mean it is a evil thing right away?  

If I let everything I saw scare me, I'd been in a nut house long ago.  Nothing to fear, but fear itself people.

[Vilkate]

No..Don't speak about beings under beds..Please... (

[Vilkate]

I know, Nay, and I beleive, we all know.
But sometimes it is hard to fight. I'm improving, though!

[Job]

The entities can't hurt anyone, because they are in the astral. However, in my experience they can ruin astral experiences. For some reason (I'm not exactly sure why) they try to stop some people from exploring the astral. The conjurations will dispel their negativity, and as a result they will either flee or be sent away.

Another thing, people fall asleep and enter the astral every night. Is it better to learn to be conscious of our experiences or to walk around with the usual lack of consciousness? Imagine what a single person gets into every night in the astral plane...what they are associated with.

Then imagine becoming conscious of our nightly travels and controlling whom/what we interact with.

[Nay]

Vilkate,

I know it can be hard and I'm sorry if I'm coming across like a b itch.. it's just a touchy subject for me.   It's an constant up hill battle to get people to understand that there doesn't have to be that kind of negative energies around you and that you hold the power, no one or nothing else.  And it seems when I say this to some people, they get all upset that the scary things could be being created by themselves and that I'm taking away a favorite toy, that they love to complain about..lol.

Anyhoo, I'm glad you're improving.  

[orange]

it IS very scary when it happens though...

whether amplified by your own fear, or a result of your fear, it is very easy to react just the way you did, jump up, turn on the lights, and wtf

and your reaction is never the same, sometimes a sensation, sound or feeling you can objectively perceive...other times it freaks you the hell out

for myself, I can handle sounds, shapes but when I feel pressure, brushes, or pokes etc to my body....that freaks me out and I have to focus very hard to not panic. I usually lose and do just what you did, turn on the lights and play a video game for a while...

[knightlight]

Its been so long since I have had a unique scary experience like this that it just totally mentally killed me.  I do have experiences on a regular basis of cold dead invisible hands on me or maybe hearing something as I wake up but this was just nuts!!!     Either it was just something stupid like a hallucination or it was my old dead cat Biff.  I did lay in bed after it happened and try to tune into the presence, if there was one, in the room and I did get some really menacing feedback like someone was almost face to face with me but they where invisible or something but after a bit it faded and figured it was just my fear and I was back to sleep....  It was just so frickin nuts I had to share.  It did feel like a cats mouth though, I was convinced one of my parents cats had made its way into my room and been shut in my room during the night by me, I sleep on a futon and there is a little tunnel like thing under it from where the bed meets the wall, my parents cat Dot loves to sleep under it regardless of how much I hate it!    ( I am allergic).

It was a double whammy in the sense that I was scared senseless at first simply by how scary the initial feeling was but then to search the obvious places convinced of the presence of my parents cat and only to find the room empty was like getting punched right in the eye!  I remember myself starting to breath really hard at that point when I checked under bed and nothing was there, probably the first time I have ever been scared to death by there being NOTHING under my bed!     All well, we live and learn.

[Job]

Once I remember gradually falling asleep and I had the sensation of many spiders on me. They cleared up soon though, and I realized they were just a subconscious hallucination. Some things in the astral are that way. However, there are other experiences which are distinct. With negative entities one can at times feel their negative energy.

Conjurations help to temporarily clear away negative influences (to clear the environment of negativity, even to negate fear which is negative (opposite) to peace).

[Nay]

Actually Job, that sounds like normal energy flow.....

[Vilkate]

I've really got used with the sound and image hallucinations. Actually, I've become curious about them - like, what will I hear this time? And, the more I am NOT surprised about what I see, the less I see them.
However, touches usually are very sudden and unexpected, and real , and that is why I still find hard to cope with them. But I'm sure it will end with time..

[Vilkate]

Oh, and I've also found conjurations useful.. They work like a programme for me that switches on the "everything's ok" part in my thinking.

[jub jub]

Hey...astral demons and monsters need love and affection too!  

[Mustardseed]

It is a hard thing for me to write this but I do not agree quite. There are things to be aware of, fear itself in not the only thing that can hurt you. However I would agree with Nay that you as an entity are pretty safe........IF YOU BELIEVE you are, This is the springing point. Fear in itself is a pretty big obstacle.

I have had many very scary experiences with the keepers and I assure you they are good at what they do. Whether they are a fiction of our imagination or not remains to be experienced.

My own line of defense is this. When it happens and it sometimes does I try to keep calm. Reacting to the fear will multiply the fear so keeping a detached attitude and staying calm is the key for me. Often I address the entity, in a sort of calm but determined way, ask who they are and what they want. The phenomena often disappears when I do this and the delusion is exposed, however sometimes they answer back. That can be a problem.

I always have a trigger to get me back to the body and use it if it gets too hairy. The more I use this attitude the more I find that I have more faith and subsequently get stronger and more resilient.

I do however think that caution is wise and blindly engaging spiritual entities is not wise. Sometimes it depends on where I am, what I have subjected my mid to before exiting my mental state etc all things to take into consideration.

Regards Mustardseed

[Nay]

I'm beginning to see I'm quite lucky because when I'm faced with anything negative, I don't have to think, I act on instinct I guess.  Maybe that is why it  is hard for some.   You have to actually make that conscious effort to think about the situation and once you have done that, you're already thinking too much about the situation, thus giving whatever energy more life... interesting.

Thanks MS.

EDIT:  This could be the reason why some people describe negs that can hurt you..  They've thought and focused so long on this aspect that they have literally created a stronger neg.

[Mustardseed]

Interesting.................I guess that could be the case. I seem to remember that Robert talked about these things as well. I will have to think about it more. I suppose we all react as we do sort of a gut feeling and how we have been brought up so to speak. No offense to anyone. In my world ignoring it does only help if the negs are fictions of your imagination but I have met those that are not as well.

[Nay]

Robert gives negs and demons more credit than due...I tend to not agree with Robert on the neg theme.  I didn't  say ignored, but I do act accordingly to the given situation, so, I guess I've ignored more than once..lol.  

This has reminded of one time when I was trying to project to my friends and a pack of dogs kept chasing me.  I, just like the other situation, kept flying from place to place, to shake them.   I finally dropped some food to try and distract them but they would not give up!   I finally went back to my physical.  I not once thought they would "follow" me back... good thing, I guess.

When you said, I suppose we all react as we do sort of a gut feeling and how we have been brought up so to speak.  That makes sense, seeings how I was abused for many years.. the ole' 'fight or flight' could very well be a clincher.  Without thinking, I've already assessed all my options.

Interesting..LOL