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Depressed

Hello all Astral pulse members,

Yesterday when I wanted to sleep I wanted to AP. So I began with visualizing and clearing my mind...After a while..I felt the vibrations. They were so strong. So, I tried visualizing rolling out of my body and looking in my third eye. After looking in my third eye, The vibrations got STRONGER and I got out of my body after visualizing rolling out of my body.

I was in my room. The vision was a bit blurry..I remember I had to focus alot on the thing I am seeing to make it clear. After a while, I felt that this was experience was going to end. I heard that rubbing your hand will continue the experience..I did, but nothing worked. But the feeling was like rubbing your hand when its numb. 

Then, everything was fading..that when I woke up. The experience lasted like 20 seconds. lol.

I have a few questions:
1- How can I go to the ethereal while in a AP?
2- How can I will myself to go anywhere I want?
3- Why did the AP lasted a small amount of time??

Thanks! :lol:

IceCold_K82

Well you are ahead of me sir!!!

How can I go to the ethereal while in a AP?

I have read many different things.  More energy work, sometimes you will see a tunnel of light that leads to higher plains.  I would read a book


How can I will myself to go anywhere I want?
Pure thought.  You imagine where you want to go and you will go there.  Or you tell yourself where you want to go and zoom!


Why did the AP lasted a small amount of time??
I think because you remained near your physical body.  I have read that if you remain near by, you can get pulled back in.  And b/c it was your first it just might have been short.

Again this is just what I have read

Drift

When you cross into that state you take much baggage with you, physical rules, doubts and fears.

You have to learn to be conciousness, not physicality. In the same way you looked into your eye to get out, focus to move and shape the rules are the same and your motor functions have no place. Be careful of your fears, I for one allowed my fears to manifest and scare me from the experience for a long time, only rcently I have learned the reason is that the subcncious fears have the same power to manifest and create as you do via the same means. Your fears create your demons in that state, relax and understand that you are where you came from.

Its natural to you, seek the truth of your birth and be humble enough to learn, and you will discover that everything is not as you now perceive it to be, there is far more to the world than most people understand and you have taken the first step on the journey of understanding. There is no evil in that world, only the power to manifest, remeber that.

Depressed

Quote from: Drift on November 07, 2008, 16:22:43
When you cross into that state you take much baggage with you, physical rules, doubts and fears.

You have to learn to be conciousness, not physicality. In the same way you looked into your eye to get out, focus to move and shape the rules are the same and your motor functions have no place. Be careful of your fears, I for one allowed my fears to manifest and scare me from the experience for a long time, only rcently I have learned the reason is that the subcncious fears have the same power to manifest and create as you do via the same means. Your fears create your demons in that state, relax and understand that you are where you came from.

Its natural to you, seek the truth of your birth and be humble enough to learn, and you will discover that everything is not as you now perceive it to be, there is far more to the world than most people understand and you have taken the first step on the journey of understanding. There is no evil in that world, only the power to manifest, remeber that.

Hello.
I was not scared at all.
Maybe the experience ended because I didn't have enough energy. lol

Thanks all.

Anyone else?

CFTraveler

Quote from: Depressed on November 07, 2008, 13:18:11
Hello all Astral pulse members,

Yesterday when I wanted to sleep I wanted to AP. So I began with visualizing and clearing my mind...After a while..I felt the vibrations. They were so strong. So, I tried visualizing rolling out of my body and looking in my third eye. After looking in my third eye, The vibrations got STRONGER and I got out of my body after visualizing rolling out of my body.

I was in my room. The vision was a bit blurry..I remember I had to focus alot on the thing I am seeing to make it clear. After a while, I felt that this was experience was going to end. I heard that rubbing your hand will continue the experience..I did, but nothing worked. But the feeling was like rubbing your hand when its numb. 
There are a myriad of reasons on why this would not work, besides that you don't have 'real hands' when you're projecting, but usually if your body is waking up and taking control it will end the experience.  So the thing would be, when the experience ends, go back to trance and separate again, instead of fighting yourself.


QuoteI have a few questions:
1- How can I go to the ethereal while in a AP?
I'm not sure what you're calling 'ethereal'.  Etheric or RTZ are where you were-an energetic copy of your room.  The next 'step', 'layer', 'focus' or whatever you call it is 'Astral', then comes 'Mental', 'Buddhic' and some others that are way 'beyond' that.  Note the quotes- they're there for a reason- this is all a matter of interpretation.

Quote2- How can I will myself to go anywhere I want?
Depends on what you mean by that.  I fly.  If I want to go to a 'higher plane' or whatever you call it, I fly upwards really fast and almost usually end up in an astral environment.  But 'where you want' is contingent upon 'what you can handle' in many ways.
Quote3- Why did the AP lasted a small amount of time??

Thanks! :lol:
Who knows.... But my first clue was when you said "I felt that this was experience was going to end."  This points to your brain going back to waking state.

Depressed

Quote from: CFTraveler on November 08, 2008, 15:25:38
There are a myriad of reasons on why this would not work, besides that you don't have 'real hands' when you're projecting, but usually if your body is waking up and taking control it will end the experience.  So the thing would be, when the experience ends, go back to trance and separate again, instead of fighting yourself.

I'm not sure what you're calling 'ethereal'.  Etheric or RTZ are where you were-an energetic copy of your room.  The next 'step', 'layer', 'focus' or whatever you call it is 'Astral', then comes 'Mental', 'Buddhic' and some others that are way 'beyond' that.  Note the quotes- they're there for a reason- this is all a matter of interpretation.
Depends on what you mean by that.  I fly.  If I want to go to a 'higher plane' or whatever you call it, I fly upwards really fast and almost usually end up in an astral environment.  But 'where you want' is contingent upon 'what you can handle' in many ways. Who knows.... But my first clue was when you said "I felt that this was experience was going to end."  This points to your brain going back to waking state.

I meant the RTZ where I can see my physical body.
And I meant by "where I want"..Like going to the moon..friend house etc..

Thanks alot! :-)

Jormungandr

Quote from: Depressed on November 07, 2008, 13:18:11
Hello all Astral pulse members,

Yesterday when I wanted to sleep I wanted to AP. So I began with visualizing and clearing my mind...After a while..I felt the vibrations. They were so strong. So, I tried visualizing rolling out of my body and looking in my third eye. After looking in my third eye, The vibrations got STRONGER and I got out of my body after visualizing rolling out of my body.

I was in my room. The vision was a bit blurry..I remember I had to focus alot on the thing I am seeing to make it clear. After a while, I felt that this was experience was going to end. I heard that rubbing your hand will continue the experience..I did, but nothing worked. But the feeling was like rubbing your hand when its numb. 

Then, everything was fading..that when I woke up. The experience lasted like 20 seconds. lol.

I have a few questions:
1- How can I go to the ethereal while in a AP?
2- How can I will myself to go anywhere I want?
3- Why did the AP lasted a small amount of time??

Thanks! :lol:

Grats on the first AP!
I've managed it once, more or less by accident as a quick experiment, mine also lasted very little time because I had no idea what was going on and managed to project to a friend's house, I kind of freaked out and returned. I cannot answer the first two questions but the last -- perhaps you were trying too hard? Like when doing those Magic Eye Pictures if you try to hard you lose the image and end up with sore eyes.
All the proof in the world, and yet he doubts...