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Jude101

So this was a little different then my past AP, the other night before going to sleep I got ready for my usual bed meditation. Everything seemed normal, except that when I drifted into more of my sleep phase I quickly jolted awake into what appear to me as a dark room. The room had a really bright light coming from the middle, right above from were I was laying. I was unable to move, it was as if I was stuck in a sort of sleep paralysis. I notice three big headed beings standing around me, staring down at me. They looked exactly like the gray's people commonly described, as I realize this I completely panicked. I tried my best to free myself, I even tough about AP out of there. Once they notice me panicking, they quickly walked away(never saying a word). Next thing I know I am back in my bed and by then it was morning.

I'm confounded on to what this could possibly mean, did I just had a very lucid experience. I'm not sure what to make of it...so I wanted to see what you guys think.
"We should consider ourselves as spirits having a human experience rather than humans having an occasional spiritual experience."

Lionheart

 This should help you understand more from the Sleep Paralysis perspective of your experience.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

But truthfully, I have had this happen often while as a youth and through my adulthood and I am not 100% sold on the SP explanation that it's all a personal manifestation. Nobody knows what is for sure. But there is certainly a lot of different views and opinions to be found on this phenomenon.  :|

Jude101

Thank you, I'll be sure to read it. This would help me know more about the subject.
I completely agree with you Lionheart, I don't want to jump into any conclusions. But I once manifested shadows and they were not as near as detailed as these beings. I will keep meditating and see what else I get to experience. Thank you for your feedback.
"We should consider ourselves as spirits having a human experience rather than humans having an occasional spiritual experience."

Lionheart

 This exact scenario plays out time and time again. The only way it makes any sense is if the "Greys" are hard wired into people's memories or something. Because I hear and read about this scenario over and over. Even from people that have never really heard of the "Greys" period.

I could understand this from someone that just watched a Documentary, movie, tec. on "ETs". But out of the blue some people have reported the exact same thing happening.  :|

It asks more questions then it answers!  :?

Xanth

I'm all but sold on this being a SP thing.

For the greys, people might not have heard about them, but they have heard of the big eyed aliens... unless they lived under a rock.   LoL

Lionheart

Quote from: Xanth on June 19, 2014, 11:10:00
For the greys, people might not have heard about them, but they have heard of the big eyed aliens... unless they lived under a rock.   LoL
Yes, I agree that they may have heard of them. I'm sure people have heard of big eyed aliens. In the past, this was the definition of Martians well. Little "green" men with big heads and big eyes. Somewhere along the line they changed color, lol. I guess "grey" got to be the new green!  :-D

But have they heard of them enough to manifest them in their sleep? A scary manifestation could take on thousands of different forms, spiders, Demons, Vampires etc. Hollywood has tons of scary creatures that would fit the bill. Why do these people report a almost identical detailed description of their event? That's the real question here.

Xanth

Quote from: Lionheart on June 19, 2014, 20:26:55
But have they heard of them enough to manifest them in their sleep?
I believe so.  Remember we're not just dealing with a single consciousness... this kind of this is probably so deeply ingrained into the collective human psyche now, that any human, even if you haven't heard of them could probably draw upon this information.

QuoteA scary manifestation could take on thousands of different forms, spiders, Demons, Vampires etc. Hollywood has tons of scary creatures that would fit the bill. Why do these people report a almost identical detailed description of their event? That's the real question here.
"Identical" is probably a bad word to use here when referring to individual interpretations of experiences.
"Similar" would probably be better.  You know that experience is individual and unique... and interpretation is King.  As such, we can never know what is identical.

What did Carl Jung call this?  Archetypes?  The symbolism that is collective to everyone.

Szaxx

Can anyone say when the typical grey first appeared in the media.
I recall the image being around in the 80's and maybe the late 70's.
Were they around in the mid 60's at all?
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Lionheart

Quote from: Xanth on June 19, 2014, 20:45:08
What did Carl Jung call this?  Archetypes?  The symbolism that is collective to everyone.
I wonder what Carl Jung or any of these famous Philosophers would say if they actually experienced a episode "similar" to this themselves.

I bet they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as purely "symbolism"!  :wink: It makes you question things again.

Once again, it's easy to diagnose from outside of the actual situation or occurrence. Neurologists and Scientists working on brain research in general are just finding that they too have bee mislead. Some of the top ones are experiencing NDEs for themselves and after that, having to discern what just happened for themselves. Many of the times their findings are completely opposite of what they taught to others throughout their lives.

"We should not pretend to understand the world only by the intellect. The judgement of the intellect is only part of the truth."
Carl Jung



 


Lionheart

Quote from: Szaxx on June 19, 2014, 21:07:08
Can anyone say when the typical grey first appeared in the media.
I recall the image being around in the 80's and maybe the late 70's.
Were they around in the mid 60's at all?
They have found "reliefs" of the Greys that date back to dawn of man. Check out the 11 minute video in this link.

http://paranoidnews.org/2012/02/archaeologists-discover-a-bunch-of-archaic-gray-alien-memorabilia/

Mind you, it's impossible to see their color. But the other characteristics fit the description.

EscapeVelocity

Besides the numerous ancient carvings, drawings and reliefs that 'could' indicate alien grey activity going way back in our history, the earliest modern day mention of them that I recall is the 1947 Roswell, New Mexico incident where several people recalled seeing and hearing about the bodies and that they were hurriedly shipped to Wright-Patterson Airbase in Ohio.

The next instance is in 1961, the Betty and Barney Hill Abduction. Their descriptions are similar to the slightly larger version of greys (5 feet tall).

I've had 75+ SP episodes, many with a variety of nasties but never any Greys. Interesting since I have had a lifelong fascination with the UFO subject and a close encounter with a UFO (but no beings) in the '90's. I asked about it in 2 different psychic readings and received the same answer---They've been watching you your whole life and they check in on you from time to time....

I think the theory that the Greys image being pulled from the collective unconscious Jungian archetype pool is certainly possible. But then why is the archetype there? Is it because Greys have been so heavily involved in and influencing our history and development?

A second possibility is that the SP visitation is a real-time occurrence. Maybe along with a much higher level of technical understanding, they also have a much greater ability to utilize Astral/mental/dimensional travel.

My thinking is that the answer to both theories is yes.

Charles Fort said something to the effect of, "I'm afraid we may be somebody else's property."
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
                                                          -O. Wilde

Transcendus

I have never been one for the whole extraterrestrial phenomena, but there was one time that I was attacked in the middle of the night by what I can only describe as an alien. It had the stereotypical gray skin and bulging black eyes. I actually found myself yanked out of my body, with this thing floating my Astral Body down the hallway of my home. Suddenly my silver cord snapped me back into my body. This critter made a second attempt, however, my silver cord once again snapped me back into my body. Then I remember this thing standing over my bed, "glaring" malevolently at me. I suddenly found myself invoking the Hierarchy (Ascended Masters). This actually made the creature retreat to wherever it came from.
Rosicrucian Order AMORC, Archivist of the Chautauqua Lake Pronaos

Lionheart

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on June 19, 2014, 22:42:17
I think the theory that the Greys image being pulled from the collective unconscious Jungian archetype pool is certainly possible. But then why is the archetype there? Is it because Greys have been so heavily involved in and influencing our history and development?

A second possibility is that the SP visitation is a real-time occurrence. Maybe along with a much higher level of technical understanding, they also have a much greater ability to utilize Astral/mental/dimensional travel.

My thinking is that the answer to both theories is yes.

Charles Fort said something to the effect of, "I'm afraid we may be somebody else's property."
EV, excellent post here!

Both are good theories and I agree with you that it could be "both" theories are correct.

I'm just curious, how many people think that we (Earth/Humanity) are being monitored/watched over from any other source other than us Humans doing it ourselves, via Gov't or what people like to call "Secret Gov't"?

FireFly9

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In William Buhlman's book "Secrets of the Soul" he devotes a chapter to the similarity between abduction stories and OBE reports. He is of the mind that most abduction experiences are simply the way the brain interprets and OBE.  Interesting reading..... and a great book.

"While I was conducting the out-of-body experience survey described in the introduction to this book, I began receiving letters related to alien contact and abduction.  After reading more than two hundred such letters, I noticed a startling similarity: The letters describing extraterrestrial contacts and abductions were almost identical to the thousands of letters I have received describing OBEs.  In fact, I often could not distinguish between letters.  ....The same kind of phenomena and descriptions - such as paralysis, electrical sensations, strong vibrations, and strange, unearthly sounds and contact - are reported."

"I have personally seen and experienced a wide variety of nonphysical intelligent beings.  Many of these beings exhibit no solid external shape or form as we understand such things.  In fact, it is feasible that truly advanced beings may have evolved beyond the need for dense biological form.  It appears that the current human dependence on and obsession with form and shape is one of the primary earmarks of a more primitive species.)"  etc.etc.  (Buhlman - Chapter 6)


So it's quite likely that you were visited by members of your own soul team, or entities watching your progress.