HeLp Me!!! (advise needed)

[Oliver]

Hi,

"I can for sure feel resistence in areas of my body when stimulating, but how do you know whether certain parts of your body are actually out??"

There is no mistaking it, you will know when a part of you is out of your body, for comparrisom thats like asking someone how they know that they have just put their hand in a bowel of water. It sounds like you need to keep doing more energy work and stuff. Personally, the vibrations before i leave my body are so strong they are sometimes a discomfort to the physical body. Its more than just a tinkly feeling. Also, I usually can't move my physical body before I seperate from it. What you have to aim for is a state commonly called "body asleep-mind awake"

"do you see or feel it?"

Both, just as you see and feel when you are walking around in your physical body. []


"man i wanna do this so bad its killing me maybe I'm too young? haha probably not im 16.. how old was everyone they're first experience, how did they do it, and what happened."

You're not too young, the age of your physical body doesnt have anything to do with it, although some may disagree, i dont think age matters and neither do a lot of people. I was 15 the first time I did it. (I'm 17 now) For my first conscious obe, I woke up about 6am and then had a drink and went back to bed, and went through some relaxation techniques and then let my body fall asleep, and then when it was really relaxed i thought of the vibrations and they came in, and then i thought of lifting out and i lifted out of my body a few inches and hovered there, and then got back in my body. With that experience a huge feeling of nestelgia hit me, i felt so happy afterwards[]. I thought afterwards that the way Robert Monroe described the vibrations was very accurate also.


"should i try some OBE inducing drugs? Got any advise besides the rope technique which doesnt seem to work for me..?"

I strongly recommend not using drugs to induce an obe, you dont know what risks you could be taking or what you could be opening yourself up to. It is not a wise decision to start things off on that route. I would liken taken drugs to induce an obe to the same as an athlete taking drugs to be able to perform better.

As for advice, Robert has other techniques for seperating in his book.
Ones that work well for me are the lift-off technique, and the roll-out technique. Basically, for lifting out, just think to yourself how great it would be to float upwards out of your body and imagine a feeling of lightness. For the roll out technique, slowly roll over to oneside just as you would if you were rolling out of bed, but do it slowly and you should seperate from your physical as you do.

Hope I've helped,

Oliver

[What Tha Phak]

Hello there, I bought Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics about a month a ago and am now done with it.  and I've always been trying to do a successful projection even before that, but i just cant get it right! I've been trying for months! I can now definetely expand, or raise, my energy body -- I can feel it, that tinkly feeling thats goes bone deep, makes you feel like your expanding but i know i got that down.  I think my main problem is the trance part, or maybe the willing yourself out of body...?  when I'm deeply ralaxed, i start to see these visuals almost like diffenent shades of black and grey/silver mixing and swirling all together (psychedellic baby) and i can manipulate it if i kep my mind clear  I've always wanted to know something... when Bruce talks about "if you have trouble getting body parts out" and so on..    I can for sure feel resistence in areas of my body when stimulating, but how do you know whether certain parts of your body are actually out?? do you see or feel it? man i wanna do this so bad its killing me maybe I'm too young? haha probably not im 16..   how old was everyone they're first experience, how did they do it, and what happened.  should i try some OBE inducing drugs? Got any advise besides the rope technique which doesnt seem to work for me..?