I triggered the vibe state

[Nick]

Yes, I've had the humming in the ears before, but not really music tune related. It happens every so often, and the vibrations for me are there, but not real strong. From what I've read here at the Astral Pulse, people have varying degrees of vibrations. That is, from mild to strong. []

[Neo_one]

good for you mike, only once the vibrations came you should have tried to keep them and split

[Mike17]

Ur telling me, i am finding it quite hard to even get to the vibe state today, i tried progressive relaxation for over 30mins without so much as a ripple, and its so hard to focus (i keep on thinking of pork chops mmmmmmmmmm)

[Nay]

You don't have to have vibrations to have a OOBE..  Do you ever get the sensation of falling, spinning, or ummmmm..feeling like a giant head?..sorry, that is the only way I can describe that one.[] how about not being able to feel your body at all, or rapid heartbeat?  

All of these are symptoms of pre-seperation.  This is when you need to use whatever exiting technique that works best for you, like the rope, roll-out, ladder, point shift tech...etc..  You should really get a copy of Astral Dynamics, Robert Bruce gives many examples of techniques.

I simply feel/imagine myself floating out, well..now I do, before I had to literally crawl away from my physical. [^]

Nay

[AntiGravity]

quote:Originally posted by Nay

You don't have to have vibrations to have a OOBE..  Do you ever get the sensation of falling, spinning, or ummmmm..feeling like a giant head?..sorry, that is the only way I can describe that one.[] how about not being able to feel your body at all, or rapid heartbeat?  

All of these are symptoms of pre-seperation.  This is when you need to use whatever exiting technique that works best for you, like the rope, roll-out, ladder, point shift tech...etc..  You should really get a copy of Astral Dynamics, Robert Bruce gives many examples of techniques.

I simply feel/imagine myself floating out, well..now I do, before I had to literally crawl away from my physical. [^]

Nay

I know this is a little off topic, but Im glad Nay said something about all these "symptoms". I used to think the vibrations were necessary(sp?) to have a projection. And what really sucks now is that I recall having everyone of those preprojection symptoms, but because I thought I needed vibes I ruined all those attempts. Im a little mad at myself now, but thank you so much Nay for pointing all those things out!
Take care everyone!
[][]

[Mike17]

Wow Nay thanx for that, all this time i was thinking that the vibe state was necesery, and now that u mention it i have had the feeling of well not feeling my body (in a non perverted way), i really feel like am close and the **poof** total anticlimax

I would love to get a book by Robert Bruce but i am 17 and therefore cant get it online because i dont have a card, i wud ask my parents i really dont think they would want me reading that stuff (my dads a scientist and my mom is a surgeon) so they r very practical, and i live in London so they r kinda hard to find, (or i just dont know where to look)

[Selski]

Mike17

I'd just like to add that I've never experienced vibrations either.  I tend to hear music (pop music mostly, not beautiful celestial sounds unfortunately), or feel my astral body swaying gently inside my real body.  That feels a bit like floating on water.  Or I realise my arms are in a different place to where they really are.  This alerts me to the fact that I am aware of my astral arms, not my real arms, and then I am able to get out of my real body and go and explore.

I think you don't need to get the Robert Bruce book to have your first OBE - you're so nearly there.  I'd advise you get it eventually, when you get a credit card.  It's a great read.

My guess is you'll have your first OBE shortly.  And me saying that and you believing it will have a positive effect.  

Enjoy!

Sarah

[Nay]

Glad I could help!  

Mike, I didn't mean you needed to get the book either, it's just that he puts sooo many techniques in it that there was no way I could list and describe each one. []

Funny while meditating last night, my mind kept repeating this thread.  I started to think perhaps I left some key element out and my higherself was trying to tell me, but I guess not.

Smiles~ Nay

[Mike17]

Thanx Nay and Sarah for the positive words, i know it will happen, but my teenage mind is very impatient, but i am practicing twice a day and today i even managed to not think of pork chops ....ding dong..

ATM i am trying to find E-Books of robert bruces, just cos i think if i understand AP bretter then maybe it will make things easier, i found a couple on DC++ but i feel guilty downloading sum1 elses hard work for free, so i think i will just try to find a book store that sells that type of stuff

NE way the main point of my Msg was to say thanx.so.....err.....thanx

and will fly by you soon

[AntiGravity]

quote:Originally posted by Mike17

Thanx Nay and Sarah for the positive words, i know it will happen, but my teenage mind is very impatient, but i am practicing twice a day and today i even managed to not think of pork chops ....ding dong..

ATM i am trying to find E-Books of robert bruces, just cos i think if i understand AP bretter then maybe it will make things easier, i found a couple on DC++ but i feel guilty downloading sum1 elses hard work for free, so i think i will just try to find a book store that sells that type of stuff

NE way the main point of my Msg was to say thanx.so.....err.....thanx

and will fly by you soon

So, youre lookin for ebooks on Astral Projection? Ive got a few of them Id be happy to share with you! Heres one that I find VERY useful: http://www.ippb.org.br/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=68&page=2
Of course, we cant forget: www.robertpeterson.org/index.html
Theres also a couple in the File Library here, go check 'em out!
Best of luck to you Mike, and if you get out before I do, come pull me out!
Take care [].

[Selski]

Hey Mike17

I can agree with AntiGravity about Robert Peterson's book.  It's fabulous.  And all free on the Internet.

Happy reading!

Sarah

[Michael_E]

quote:Originally posted by Mike17

 i mean how cool would an automatic vibe trigger be?)

ok here is one way to do it:

get nice and cozy and sleepy on your back in bed, wind down and start letting yourself fall asleep but keep a part of your mind on a falling sensation or raising sensation, which ever suits your fancy. In the beggining use some good effort to get the momentum of the dropping or raising sensation going there will come a point where it will start to intensify on its own. This can happen while you are diliberatly sensing the dropping/raising happening or later as you are drifting off, more often with me as i am drifting off. When the raising/dropping sensation happens on its own get ready for some vibes and POP.

[Mike17]

Awesome thing happened this morning (i am starting to remember alot of dream realted thingies) but i rememberd hearing a specific tune in my dream, and as soon as i woke up i remembered it for a bit, when i hummed it to myself, i went into a mild vibration state,they wherent to strong, but at the same time where very very noticable, including the humming in the ears,

Have any of you, ever experienced summin similar   (the bad thing is that, i cant remember the tune ne more, wish i could though, i mean how cool would an automatic vibe trigger be?)