Today Experiences

[DreambreaX]

Hello, Im a newbie here. My first post, glad I can find this awesome website! I can't believe the post and member here are so many. I have read the post that people here are very nice and kind. I hope I can join the club =)

So I have been OBE for several times before, including lucid dream, but since my concentration is to Kundalini awakening meditation, I dont do OBE again. I Focus on my meditation chakra. Now if im standing, I can feel my sahasrara chakra, ajna chakra, and all of my spine is having those energy, the energy can be very powerful that can cover my body. The biggest energy I realized is at the back of my head and in front of my ajna chakra. Many experienced happened during this time including very hot temperature in my body and hear sort of sounds.



Now, I want to have OBE again, Last night I try I can't. Its been an hour, my 3 problems:

1) Heart Beat getting fast (im not scared, its just automatically my heart beat start when having the vibration, body going very heavy and circle)

2) My conciousness is strong, I want to make my body sleep but hardly can asleep. I think and say to my self: "I want to sleep while my conciousness is still there". The result to make my body sleep is not easy. My conscious level is high while keep hearing the ringing inner sound (I used earplugs, because some people here recommend me to use it, and I believe its effective).

3) My legs can move itself during heavyness! When my body and legs become very stiff and heavy, my legs can move itself very very slowly into certain positition, this is something wrong I guess, I want to relax but it can move by itself.


the problem number 1 and 2 are my most concern problem. especially number 2, to make body sleep while having consciousness is there.

I need a PRO to answer me in details. especially my number 1 and 2 problems.

After failing to OBE lastnight I sleep. at 4 o clock in the morning I wake up and try OBE again. Its sleepy, but body fail to sleep due problem number 1 and 2. My conciousness is high. I desperate and forget about OBE and sleep. I awake at 6am and sleep again, the strange thing is that during 6am, when i start to dream i want to get out from my body. the location at the dream is at the toilet seat and realized that actually im dreaming. Since im very concious at that moment, that I trigger the OBE and got out from the toilet seat. My body and my face is heading down to the floor, I said to my self "FLY! I want to FLY!". Suddenly I feel my self floating higher and higher. I can see the process. Its not like suddenly blink, but it has some process of flying, when I fly high to the top of my room, I am thinking to fly higher and see the world. After my body surpass the roof, suddenly my sight is all white and I am awake! I want to continue the journey of OBE but its already awake. is this OBE or only a lucid dream? my conciousness is high, just like im here now typing the computer keyboard.

Im lucky enough today, but I want to make my OBE can trigger everynight and everytime I want to OBE, not just a lucky coincidence like this. Therefore my problem above need to be solved.

Namaskar =)

[DreambreaX]

today I wake up at 6am, wanting to OBE but I can't.

AFter I wake up at 6, my eyes is sleepy but again Its hard to sleep. Even though im sleepy but My conciousness is high.

I get normal dream.

having OBE its very difficult.

[EscapeVelocity]

All of us want a controlled conscious projection with no loss of continuity. We can eventually develop that technique but it takes time. It also requires the right 'conditions'.  I've been doing this for forty+ years and still require the right conditions if I am to get that conscious projection.

Most times, I get some form of 'clickout' or temporary loss of consciousness. Currently I am coming out of deep sleep and having enough awareness to know I'm entering an experience.

Your consciousness is still way too active. It's not easy, this is exciting stuff when it really starts happening!

So, set your intent, what you want to occur and then let go, try to maintain your awareness as your body falls asleep, but accept the fact that the first twenty times you're going to fall asleep and then become aware in a lucid dream or environment. Don't struggle too much, if you fall asleep, just let it happen. See what happens with that.

The rapid heartbeat is probably actually not rapid heartbeat. It's probably your heart chakra firing up. That's good, but it frightens most of us early on. Over time, your reaction to it will calm down.

I also have pretty good luck with the WBTB technique. But you have to experiment with how long you initially sleep, and how long you stay up and what activities you should limit yourself to.

Hope that gives you some ideas.

[DreambreaX]

First of all I would like to THANK YOU for your reply 

.  I've been doing this for forty+ years and still require the right conditions if I am to get that conscious projection.

wow, how old are you now? you are still doing AP for 40 years? thats a very very long time  =)

The rapid heartbeat is probably actually not rapid heartbeat. It's probably your heart chakra firing up. That's good, but it frightens most of us early on. Over time, your reaction to it will calm down.

can you explain more about heart chakra firing up? cleansing process?

what i feel is a very hardbeat. many times i dont scare but the heart beat is very strong. just like a horse step. the deeper i go, the fast and strongger the heart beat.

[EscapeVelocity]

You're the one studying chakras, I was going to ask you...

Heart chakra activity is what I've experienced, but I don't necessarily understand it. It gets fired up.

What do you think?

[DreambreaX]

You're the one studying chakras, I was going to ask you...

Heart chakra activity is what I've experienced, but I don't necessarily understand it. It gets fired up.

What do you think?

from what i know, its a chakra cleansing process since my kundalini already awakened. The cleansing process makes me tired, lots of vibration, breath heavy, while it has a rapid heart beat.
Cleansing process takes a lot of time. Need a guru to help cleansing faster.

Day by day if we practise, from what i know, the chakra is getting strongger. One day if the chakra are very clean, we can have many spiritual abilities like clairvoyance, etc etc.

[DreambreaX]

Sometimes i confuse which practise that i want to do. The real meditation or astral project. I thibk both have different practice.

In meditation we relax, all of thw sudden we can feel the kundalini energy at the back at thw spine, chakras, surrender to God.

But in OBE we need to sleep, while remain concious.

[EscapeVelocity]

One theory is that our APs are 'powered' through one or more of our chakras. Early on, for many people, the root or sex chakra is the first or easiest chakra to power up. That may be why the sex drive can be so strong in early projections. Later, we begin utilizing some of the other chakras, individually or in pairs or groups, idk.

[DreambreaX]

yesterday experience

I woke at 6AM, and feel sleepy. so i walk to the toilet and pee. after that i get to my bed and get to sleep instantly while imagining flying somewhere, instead of focusing on the vibration i focus on flying to the sky. again, my biggest problem is that even in this sleepy condition, it won't sleep! after one hour i roll to the left and right wanting to sleep but im like 1/2 sleep. after a long time, my imagination of flying is ended unconsciously, so i went to sleep with normal dream.

so yesterday OBE was failed.

I will try it again today, will report it tommorow =)

[vigour]

Switch off the internal dialogue. Trying to stay still doesn't help me at all unless I switch off all thoughts and just relax. Also find your body's most comfortable position. And again.. wipe out all thoughts.. even.. if you constantly think "I want OBE, I want OBE".. it won't happen... before going to bed, stretch a little bit (at least that helps me to remove some tension in my back or joints)... and also built up your intent... what might be helpful also... instead of thinking what you'd like to achieve, think of the feeling that you already achieved it. In other words... imagine.. make it real feeling.. that you already did the OBE and it was great... remove all doubts and concerns.

I have more success when going to bed much earlier than usual. I've spotted that my perfect "fall a sleep" time is around 22:00 and if I go to bed after midnight, sometimes, I'm too tired and can't relax at all. In other words... have you tried, instead of doing early morning OBEs, to check out the early evening ones

[DreambreaX]

Switch off the internal dialogue. Trying to stay still doesn't help me at all unless I switch off all thoughts and just relax. Also find your body's most comfortable position. And again.. wipe out all thoughts.. even.. if you constantly think "I want OBE, I want OBE".. it won't happen... before going to bed, stretch a little bit (at least that helps me to remove some tension in my back or joints)... and also built up your intent... what might be helpful also... instead of thinking what you'd like to achieve, think of the feeling that you already achieved it. In other words... imagine.. make it real feeling.. that you already did the OBE and it was great... remove all doubts and concerns.

I have more success when going to bed much earlier than usual. I've spotted that my perfect "fall a sleep" time is around 22:00 and if I go to bed after midnight, sometimes, I'm too tired and can't relax at all. In other words... have you tried, instead of doing early morning OBEs, to check out the early evening ones

thank you for the words! yes ive tried early evening and all of them failed.

my success stories are in the morning. 7+ lucid dream and 3 OBE are all in the morning.

yes im going to try again tommorow morning. do i have to remains 100% conscious from sleep? or i just tend to sleep (no concious) while imagining flying? these 2 are different things.

if i remain conscious, i can't sleep. (tend to fail)
if i tend to sleep while imagining of flying, i will be sleep. (some a bit hope of obe)

[vigour]

thank you for the words! yes ive tried early evening and all of them failed.

my success stories are in the morning. 7+ lucid dream and 3 OBE are all in the morning.

yes im going to try again tommorow morning. do i have to remains 100% conscious from sleep? or i just tend to sleep (no concious) while imagining flying? these 2 are different things.

if i remain conscious, i can't sleep. (tend to fail)
if i tend to sleep while imagining of flying, i will be sleep. (some a bit hope of obe)

Why do you imagine anything? Build up your intent, but also clear your mind of all thoughts. There're several theories that claim the body regularly checks if your mind is asleep. If you stay relaxed, clean your thoughts and slowly start to feel like a brick that might help in convincing your body that your already sleeping, while you are not

[DreambreaX]

thanks a lot

this morning i wake up, go to toilet and go to sleep again. just before sleep, imagine want to fly. its work! in the dream, i was flying and want to see the liberty. i realized that this is totally a dream, thats why im thinking of liberty, when i command myself want to see the liberty, i wake up.

short lucid dream.

[DreambreaX]

15 May 2014

Yesterday something happened. Again in the morning I imagine of flying and imagine OBE. I tend to fall asleep in normal dream, but yet very clear dream. I met many people attending class in a hotel room, there was a television and its said that why are we here on planet earth.

The TV shows explain a lot, yet most of them I already know. Its said before we are born on this earth, we can really CHOOSE where do we want to live, what country do you want.

After that a guy with glasses, short black hair, white skin are coming to me and he do a spiritual healing to me, I've told them that my hand and legs are oftenly cramp. He suddenly put his hand around 7-10cm above my hand and he use his spiritual healing to my hand. At first it is like nothing happenend, i dont feel anything. after longer, i feel his putting his energy to my hand. and my hand are vibrating. I think to myself "wow, this guy have spiritual healing power". he look really kind and nice guy. i dont know who is he yet.

AFter that i wake up, and sleep again. and I meet him again!

I ask him, what is your name? so next time i can call you again.

he answered me with a smile: I am San***.

after he told me his name, i wake up and wrote his name into my cellphone (so that i wont forget).

Is this guy my guide? because just before i sleep i call my guide to help me astral project, but hes not helping me astral project but rather do spiritual healing.

[DreambreaX]

Last night I meditate with zero thought

after a while, something happened. my body is full of vibration, and its getting deeper and deeper.

until, Im entering the state of sleep paralysis!

the difference with sleep paralysis is that your body can't move. but this one can, i dont want to move my body because im enjoying this state.

my body is very heavy and stiff. somehow its becoming a stone. my hearing, my situation state is very similar to sleep paralysis. (note: ive been sleep paralysis before).

I command my self to float above my room, suddenly there is a pull, the energy pull, i know this was my soul. when the pull is very strong, suddenly im a bit scared because thi heavy pull is very strong and it was my first time. i've never scared during practice of OBE before, but last night the pull is very real and strong. I dont want to be scared, but it was'nt my choice.

Will try this again sometime =)

[4everaspirit]

The increased hearbeat isn't a problem, in fact the vibrations and the increased heart beat mean you are EXTREMELY CLOSE. You are literally 2 min away from lifting out of your body.

My heart always feels like it's racing before I OBE

[DreambreaX]

The increased hearbeat isn't a problem, in fact the vibrations and the increased heart beat mean you are EXTREMELY CLOSE. You are literally 2 min away from lifting out of your body.

My heart always feels like it's racing before I OBE

can you do OBE while heart is racing?

still have increased heart beat during practice now?

[Micael]

You're actually getting yourself quite a few nice experiences. Good job, practice.