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Title: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 19, 2011, 20:39:44
Here's what happened a few weeks ago. it's mainly going to be a long story short due to lack of time i have. im a busy man :D lol

~ Wakes up at 6:30 and does the normal routine for projection~
i walk out of my body. i go down my stairs and head outside. it was a cool rainy morning. i fell myself get soaked from the rain. i enjoyed the refreshing energy of the rain so i decided to skip around in it. i wanted to pull my girl out for the first time so i tried to fly. but i've been on a dry spell for about 2-3 weeks so i forgot how i suppose. i decided to just float down my street.
while floating down i noticed decorations in front of a house. " why are their halloween decorations still up?" something didn't seem right so i went to examine it. as i neared closer one particular decoration caught my eye. a decoration of an ape. for some unknown reason i said "hey ape" and it went from looking close to a decoration to an ape. it looked at me and started to run away from me. confused i ignored it and went inside someones house. i saw a women. she was walking to her bedroom and i decided to follow, i was bored so.
she was nearing her bed,and i touched her shoulder. she stopped instantly. confused i sat her on her bed. she was just sitting there. not blinking. not breathing. as if my touch has paralyzed her. i was thinking to myself, how did i do that? i thought that while in the astral you can't really mess with the physical let alone paralize a human being. i laid her down on her bed and went back to my physical body.


so tell me guys, what do you make of the ape and the touch?
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on January 19, 2011, 22:51:27
hey astraladdict,
both situations probably were just thought forms you created. you thought it was an ape, so an ape it was! The woman was a thought form too, have you ever seen her before? If you havent, she may have been some entity in the astral. I don't know why she became paralyzed ... just one of the endless mysterious of the astral environment i guess.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 20, 2011, 07:55:43
yes, i've seen the women a few times while walking to the bus stop....
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Micael on January 20, 2011, 08:43:05
Maybe the woman didn't stop, maybe all that stopped as your perception.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 20, 2011, 09:55:45
how so?
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on January 20, 2011, 18:16:54
Quote from: astraladdict on January 20, 2011, 07:55:43
yes, i've seen the women a few times while walking to the bus stop....
yea, so in my opinion you were making her  up.. especially because you were slightly off the RTZ (the decorations and ape)
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Micael on January 20, 2011, 19:22:24
Quote from: astraladdict on January 20, 2011, 09:55:45
how so?

As you noticed her you might have subconsciously stopped your perception of her keeping yourself observing her in that prolonged moment for some reason. Just an hypothesis, giving you something to consider.  :-)
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 21, 2011, 07:55:32
lol yea im considereing it, it's never happened to me before when i project so
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 22, 2011, 19:14:18
hmm Im starting to think that i didn't make her up, the other day while i was walking to the bus stop she was doing something with the trash and she kept starring at me like "what the bonk?! i saw him before"
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on January 25, 2011, 07:39:33
Quote from: astraladdict on January 22, 2011, 19:14:18
hmm Im starting to think that i didn't make her up, the other day while i was walking to the bus stop she was doing something with the trash and she kept starring at me like "what the bonk?! i saw him before"
Ok so the one thing I can tell you for sure, is that you didn't directly act upon the physical universe. If anything you interacted with her astral body, and on some level she recognized you
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on January 25, 2011, 18:06:55
if that's the case than what was it i did exactly that caused her to do what she did?
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Lexy on January 25, 2011, 18:58:37
Caused her to do what?

Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on January 27, 2011, 16:25:17
Quote from: astraladdict on January 25, 2011, 18:06:55
if that's the case than what was it i did exactly that caused her to do what she did?
Idk why her body became paralyzed.. It really doesn't make sense, which is why i proposed that she was just a thought form.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 11, 2011, 22:25:56
Than where was her physical body?
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 11, 2011, 22:33:38
Her body was wherever it was it the physical. You say it was 6:30 so she may have been in bed sleeping.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 11, 2011, 22:34:53
I followed her to her room AND laid her down in the bed, no other body was even present in the house
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 11, 2011, 22:47:30
That may be true, but it was not her physical body. You weren't even on the rtz anymore, so if she was in the house at that exact moment in time, you wouldn't have seen her. Even in the rtz you could not interact with her physical body, especially not to the extreme of laying her down on her bed. I've heard of people, in the physical, seeing the body of an astral traveler in the rtz, but even this i'm skeptical of.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 11, 2011, 22:49:09
*Shrugs* Crazy excrement can happen when you project.. especially my projection last week
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 11, 2011, 22:54:34
ahh yes you are very right my friend
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 10:54:48
Lol, i got edited u_u
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 13, 2011, 14:26:42
Quote from: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 10:54:48
Lol, i got edited u_u
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Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 14:31:03
Quote from: astraladdict on February 11, 2011, 22:49:09
excrement
That is not at all what i put
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Xanth on February 13, 2011, 14:46:40
There's an autofilter in place, that changes certain words when you hit the submit button.  :)
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 14:58:06
XD I'd like to have fun with that autofilter some day
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: CFTraveler on February 13, 2011, 15:30:22
You should try saying b^llsh!t.  It's hilarious.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 13, 2011, 16:31:26
Quote from: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 14:58:06
XD I'd like to have fun with that autofilter some day
hahah bovine excrement bovine excrement bovine excrement
hahahahah
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 13, 2011, 17:24:37
LMAO
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: teddybear on February 18, 2011, 13:06:33
Hi

I think what you experienced might have been real. That you actually were there, and she could sense you. Probably scared into freeze...
Have you tried ask her?
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 19, 2011, 10:01:53
Quote from: teddybear on February 18, 2011, 13:06:33
Hi

I think what you experienced might have been real. That you actually were there, and she could sense you. Probably scared into freeze...
Have you tried ask her?
Nope, last time i saw her was a couple days after it happened, i was walking to the bus stop and she kept looking at me like she saw me somewhere and was suprised
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: teddybear on February 19, 2011, 12:08:35
If you find a way to ask her it would be really interresting to know her answer. This is really a great opportunity to find out if something like that is possible. I hope you ask her and share her answer with us :-)
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 19, 2011, 13:22:49
Guys I'm sorry but it is just not possible. astraladdict was already off the rtz. He mentioned the halloween decorations, and an ape running around. Obviously this wasn't happening on the physical plane. Moreover, you cannot physically lift and interact with a being inhabiting the physical while in the rtz. If this were possible we would constantly be in contact with the recently deceased.
If anything, you interacted with a form of her astral body. She may not fully remember the experience, but she finds something familiar and strange about you.

In my sincere opinion, she was a thoughtform. Every projector encounters them on a regular basis. I always think I'm with my dad, other family member, or friend. My father and i have developed an experiment to test whether this is actual a conscious form of him. The test is simple. In waking life we both have numbers, unbeknownst to each other,  between 1 and 1000. While in the astral we'll ask each other the number for verification. Well i have asked him the number and NEVER has he responded. It seems the thoughtform breaks down. It starts clawing at its chest, freaking out, saying they just don't know. On one occasion the form even chased me out of the house, with the rest of "made up" thoughtforms.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: CFTraveler on February 19, 2011, 13:56:44
Quote from: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 19, 2011, 13:22:49
Guys I'm sorry but it is just not possible. astraladdict was already off the rtz. He mentioned the halloween decorations, and an ape running around. Obviously this wasn't happening on the physical plane. Moreover, you cannot physically lift and interact with a being inhabiting the physical while in the rtz. If this were possible we would constantly be in contact with the recently deceased.
If anything, you interacted with a form of her astral body. She may not fully remember the experience, but she finds something familiar and strange about you.

In my sincere opinion, she was a thoughtform. Every projector encounters them on a regular basis. I always think I'm with my dad, other family member, or friend. My father and i have developed an experiment to test whether this is actual a conscious form of him. The test is simple. In waking life we both have numbers, unbeknownst to each other,  between 1 and 1000. While in the astral we'll ask each other the number for verification. Well i have asked him the number and NEVER has he responded. It seems the thoughtform breaks down. It starts clawing at its chest, freaking out, saying they just don't know. On one occasion the form even chased me out of the house, with the rest of "made up" thoughtforms.
I have to agree with this- I believe there is an area in between the RTZ and astral, Kurt Leland calls it 'simulation zone' where elements of both are combined, to get you acclimated to the next step in development.  I'm sure there is a way to translate this into focus levels or locales, or theosophical planes.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Lexy on February 20, 2011, 05:17:19
I talked to a thoughtform in my experience last night..I asked her what her name was & where she was from..she just went blank & froze. Before that she was acting normal.
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: astraladdict on February 20, 2011, 14:43:15
well im not saying that i did interact with the physical, in fact i enjoying hearing people's opinions about things, but, nothing at all is "impossible" everything is very much possible. obvisoly you'd understand that since your projecting in the first place
Title: Re: Touching the physical???
Post by: Karxx Gxx on February 20, 2011, 22:58:15
Well you  should  try asking her while not projecting. Like  physically.
Cuz i wana know if it is possible because that would be great! :-D