Trying to find sis, used emotion to AP?

[Reemy]

Sounds like you had a really intense experience.  I'm sorry to hear about your sister-in-law.  It must be a very hard time for you and your family.  I hope you are able to find out what's happened to her soon.

Namaste,
Reemy

[Lost Raiden]

Don't give up. Let your love for your sis be your courage. Put her life in front of your own and try it again. Instead of trying too hard to find the locale, maybe just try and make a connection with her to see if she is alright. Listen to her soul or voice instead of trying to find exactly where she is. Good luck.

[Eol007]

Dear FistOfFury,

I am deeply sorry to hear about the awful plight of your sister-in-law and the worry her family have to endure. It must be a really difficult time for you all. I just wanted you to know that she will be in my prayers in wishing her home safe.

Kind regards,


Stephen []

[FistOfFury]

Update:
My sis-in-law passed away last month, she commited suicide late at night, by jumping off a dam bridge into the river below.

My brother told me that the authorities told him that she died quick or even instantly, due to the height of the bridge, and the rushing water in the river/dam.

I think I now know what that force was that was rushing around me and pulling me, preventing me from moving, no matter how much I tried to counter it (from my experience in my above post). It was the water from the dam/river. I had two similiar experiences after that one, with that same great force. But why was this manifesting whenever I was APing? Was it a message of some sort? I wish I knew. Only thing I do know, is that I didn't exactly know how my sis died at the time these things were happening to me, all I knew was that she jumped off a bridge, not that it was dam bridge in the local river.

[michael]

So sorry to read of your loss. I have an article on Robert's "articles" site..deals with the suicide of my son and how I came to contact him..hope it is of some use..take care..she will be a bit confused etc but the thing you must do if you can is to try..hard though it is...to think of her in a positive way and try not to let rage, anger enter the scenario....but this is hard..good luck

[Rastus]

I am sorry for your loss.  I am intimately familiar with depression, and what it can cause people to do.  I talk to suicidal people on another board pretty much every day.

I have always thought of suicide as throwing in your cards and starting over.  I believe she will come back again, for no one can leave the mortal plane permanently via that exit.  Some people can attain the enlightenment to leave voluntarily, but that's quite different.  Some peoples biggest concern is the pain they will cause others if they carry through with their intentions.  If you want a positive thought to dwell on, then send her soul comforting thoughts, and let it know you forgive it, and that the pain isn't permanent.   Don't dwell on how you could have done something different to help her.  In fact, I fully believe you achieved your AP goal.  You did indeed project to her, but you didn't get the results you expected.  You projected to her body, which had drowned.  Perhaps her soul was trying to tell where her body was, so that your family could have closure and stop worrying, then start healing.  I really believe she is sorry for the pain she has caused everyone, and if given a second chance would have made a different choice.

Interesting, I'm quite choked up by this.

[FistOfFury]

Thanks for the kind replies everyone, really.

There's one thing that I don't understand though, and that's that I OBE-ed almost instantaneously. I didn't know that was possible. From what I've read, and experienced in other past OBEs, it takes time to get your body to not move and stay relaxed, and then to try the exit technique. I was anything but relaxed, and was moving around in my bed, changing positions, right before it happened. It's always taken me some time to exit too. But this time, it was different, it was like nothing I've ever felt before, it was almost strange. It was like I willed myself to do it almost instaneously, through emotion, and I wasn't really trying though, because I was so caught up in the all the different emotions that I was experiencing all at the same, and I was also confused. Is the energy from emotions really that powerfull? Or maybe, I had a helping hand.....? Or both?

[Rastus]

I vote for both.  People can do some amazing things if they don't think too hard first.  If you were conciously trying, and an entity was waiting to assist you, then yes, I think you can project instantly.

[michael]

I agree with rastus...in my particular example I had no intention to do it..the OBE just happened..I have only a few times sensed a "guide"..and that was one of them....in the scores of  other OBE's ... nothing at all..

[FistOfFury]

My sister-in-law has been missing for past couple days, the police think she killed herself because they found her pocket book, but can't find her, and she tried to kill herself before....I wanted to use this opportunity to try to find out what happened, on my own, by trying to get better at APing, but I'm still new at it, and unfortunately I'm not getting good results, and I don't think it's gonna work. I was lying in bed, and something wierd happened. I got upset and gave up trying to AP. I was mad at everything, what was happening to my sis-in-law, where is she, mad at myself for not being good at APing. Then I got really scared of what she might do in her state of mind, wherever she is, and I got angry at the same time for not being to AP, and then it happened. I started getting slight vibrations, and I exited out of my body, but I still couldn't see good. For some reason, I got this wierd sensation of a strong cold wind, or maybe water, rushing all around me, pushing me to my right. Then I lost control of my movement, and I started spinning and spinning while getting that wierd sensation. I couldn't counter the spinning because it was too strong of a force, I then looked up and saw a ceiling with a strange pattern, with a black shape in the middle. I tried opening my eyes for better vision, but I ended up opening the physical eyes of my body, that didn't work so I closed my physical eyes so that the experience wouldn't end. I tried calling my sis's name, and wanted to go where she was, but nothing happened. I wanted to get out of where I was, out of this great force that was rushing all around me and pushing me, so I tried to move into the black shape on the cieling, to use it as a gate to get out of where ever I was, but I couldn't, the force that was pushing me was too great. I decided to end whatever I was experiencing, and wake up...