Hi all,ive had many lucid dreams over the years and even though ive wanted to have an ootb for years i have had some nearly occurances. But, is it possible change a lucid dream into an astral projection? i struggle less with having a lucid dream and feel if this is possible i would have more experiences out there on the astral plane.
while im on the subject what tips would you give to stay completly relaxed when the strange feelings start to occcure when your relaxing and about to have an atral projection?
stephen :? :? :?
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/01/how-i-convert-a-lucid-dream-into-an-astral-projection/
That's how I do it.
But you have to realize that you're not changing "where you are" in consciousness, because they take place in the same area. What you change is you. You increase your conscious awareness. Right now, this very second, you have what I call a "waking awareness". To increase a lucid awareness experience into an astral awareness experience, you need to increase your conscious awareness to that of your "waking awareness", or as close to it as you can. You do this by focusing upon something within the experience and asking yourself the questions I pose in the linked article. :)
Quote from: blidge on February 06, 2011, 15:04:07
But, is it possible change a lucid dream into an astral projection?
stephen :? :? :?
Yes, in fact I did a couple weeks ago. I was dreaming I was looking in my bathroom mirror. The image of my face, which is unique out of body, triggered a memory of a carbon-copy OBE I had a year or two back. That brought me into full awareness. So it's definitely possible.
For the second question, focus on the strange feelings and intensify them.
Hi thanks for the reply, umm slightly confused you say at the end of your short paragraph from your site link to ask myself while in a lucid dream
"Where am I?"
"Where am I going?"
"How did I get here?"
and "What am I doing?
then congrats you are now astral projecting! But, isn't it the case if you have an astral projection that you are in the physical world and can navigate as you would but with no restrictions, i.e. flying, moving through walls etc. Or is this level of awareness another level of astral travel but in a dream state?
I have had many flying dreams over the years, this to me does not represent astral travel as i would like to experience it..
:-)
Well for me it's a bit funny and furstrating when I go to bed i just watch the darkness behind my closed eyelids and wait for the buzzing sounds,and 2 or 3 minutes later the vibrations begin and i roll to my side and boom I'm on the floor :lol: but I cant go trough walls and it seems to be Lucid dream.I always get in it but I do something wrong I guess....No OBE at all(I've had 1 or 2 real projections but those was by accident) :-P
Quote from: blidge on February 08, 2011, 05:04:35
Hi thanks for the reply, umm slightly confused you say at the end of your short paragraph from your site link to ask myself while in a lucid dream
"Where am I?"
"Where am I going?"
"How did I get here?"
and "What am I doing?
then congrats you are now astral projecting! But, isn't it the case if you have an astral projection that you are in the physical world and can navigate as you would but with no restrictions, i.e. flying, moving through walls etc. Or is this level of awareness another level of astral travel but in a dream state?
Well, the terms "astral projection" and "obe" are used in two ways these days... first they're synonymous for the same thing, in that they're both used to indicate exploration of the non-physical. The other way they're used is that an astral projection is when you're projecting into the "astral" and an obe is when you're projecting into what it is commonly referred to as the RTZ (or as you're putting it, the physical world).
You can be lucid in either/or at the time you're experiencing it. Where you are doesn't matter though, just focus upon something in or around you and ask yourself those questions. Remember, when you go from a lucid awareness to an astral awareness it's not a matter of "going somewhere different", you're simply increasing your conscious awareness to a level as close to your waking awareness as possible. :)
I use the term Astral Projection to describe both events as I think the term Out of Body Experience is misleading as I do not believe you're ever IN your body to begin with. So I stay away from using it.
QuoteI have had many flying dreams over the years, this to me does not represent astral travel as i would like to experience it..
All dreams are astral projections of a sort... regardless of where they take place. You probably dream about being in places familiar to you... these are RTZ projection of an unconscious nature. You also probably dream of places you've never been to... these are astral projections of an unconscious nature.
Quote from: Xanth on February 08, 2011, 09:09:05
All dreams are astral projections of a sort... regardless of where they take place. You probably dream about being in places familiar to you... these are RTZ projection of an unconscious nature. You also probably dream of places you've never been to... these are astral projections of an unconscious nature.
Ok so by increasing my consciousness of an RTZ and places that i've never been to before i would be able eventually depending on how conscious i am be able to experience RTZ in the real world, but my astral state.
I am understanding more but this leads to another question, if i have a RTZ of an unconscious state and the environment is very familiar, by asking myself those questions this will increase my consciousness, so why is it then i can dream of people that are dead to me in the physical world?. Is the state that i am in RTZ not the same as physical reality bar the physics? i.e. seeing dead friends? Sorry if this is confusing :-o :-o :-o
Quote from: blidge on February 08, 2011, 09:53:19
I am understanding more but this leads to another question, if i have a RTZ of an unconscious state and the environment is very familiar, by asking myself those questions this will increase my consciousness, so why is it then i can dream of people that are dead to me in the physical world?. Is the state that i am in RTZ not the same as physical reality bar the physics? i.e. seeing dead friends? Sorry if this is confusing :-o :-o :-o
Some people believe that our relatives that have passed are able to communicate through our dreams in this manner.
Remember, the RTZ is not the physical... it's assumed to be a mirror copy with certain... artistic license qualities to it. LoL
So anything should be able to manifest there... including dead relatives.
Now, it's up to you to figure out if what you're seeing is an objective representation of your relative... or if it's a subconscious projection of your own creation. Generally, if they can tell you something that you already didn't know about them, the it's probably them. :)