Two More All New And Very Clear OBEs !!!

[Greytraveller]

Both OBEs occured Wednesday, July 16, 2008
I have numbered and titled them ---
#79 a and b "Clearly Out Of Body Twice"

Became conscious in the hypnagogic state and this included vibrations and sleep paralysis. Consciousness was not sharp at first yet I soon realized that it was a perfect opportunity to go out of body. So I tried to induce an OBE. And tried. And tried. And tried. For several minutes I just could not do it.
Then --- Finally Success ! I lifted directly up and out of my physical body. Almost immediately upon being OOB I attempted to go outside through a large window. This also proved to be very hard to do. It took several attempts before I was flying, hovering actually, about 20 - 30 feet up just outside the house. Here I started to lose it. After (mentally) fighting like hell to stay OOB I slipped back inside the house through the window. My physical body was only a few feet away. This was too close. I reintegrated and the OBE was over.

OBE #79b  Only moments after the first OBE ended the vibrations returned and were very strong. This time the separation was fast and easy. This time I found myself downstairs on the first floor back porch. I simply walked right out the back door (which was open though it was closed in the physical).
There I stood on the backyard deck. Suddenly a Japanese samurai sword appeared in my hands. (I had watched part of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", including the beautiful flying and fighting scenes, last night.)
So I lifted up off the deck into the night sky.. Yet after going no more than 20 feet up I was obstructed by several large trees. I tried to avoid these trees but to no avail. They proved to be an unavoidable barrier that prematurely ended the OBE.
Notes -- Consciousness during both these OBEs was sharp and mostly crystal clear. This was quite unlike the dream-like state of a projection nearly two weeks ago. The time was between 3:00 and 3:30 AM. Duration of OBE #79a was 3 - 5 minutes, #79b was only 1 or 2 minutes. I lay on my right side.
Both OBEs were in Locale I, a familiar location. There were no persons or beings encountered. Both OBEs were Deliberate, had Sleep paralysis and Vibrations and Flight. I had Meditated earlier that night and had done extensive Pranayama during the day. The second OBE was Short and included a Barrier.

Thanx for reading

Grey

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

Hey Grey, congrats on your OBEs and thanks for sharing.  I wonder why you couldn't go past the trees.  Long time ago, when I thought my OBEs were 'realistic' flying dreams which I 'directed', I used to come across barriers which were usually rooms occupied by people.  I have since learnt that humans are able to subconsciously create energy fields that serve as barriers, if they require privacy (know what I mean?). But I never came across barriers outdoors.  Interesting.

[Greytraveller]

Hi Venus

Yes, barriers seem to take several forms including --

1) psychic fields deliberately created to ensure privacy.

2) energy fields, like Faraday cages and high voltage power lines. (Robert Monroe described several experiences with these.) and

3) physical objects including trees, doors, walls and windows. Usually these physical barriers can be overcome with forethought and effort. However, during my OBEs I had no plan of action or intent once OOB. So when I encountered the trees I found them much more formidable than they should have been.
In other words If I had a stronger motive to go over/get around those trees then I would have managed to do it. That may sound odd yet many people find simple barriers like doors and walls completely unpassable when OOB unless they have a strong motive to overcome them. Remember in the astral/ethereal realm thoughts are of prime importance. So lack of intent (= thought) means that all obstacles are harder to overcome.
Hope that makes sense.

Grey

[Vitruvian]

GT,
Very well documented and exciting to read - thanks.
Vitruvian

[Embodied Words]

Ah, this sounds amazing!! Yer vision when OOB seems much clearer than mine. How were you able to fly? I have been OOB a few times, and I've always noticed that I have a very hard time with flying.

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

embodied, I am quite the opposite.  Whenever I have OBE, I always seem to be flying.  For once I want to consciously walk out of my body and walk around my home. 

[Embodied Words]

When I'm OOB I don't really have a body. Its more like I'm a tiny little dot of awareness. Like a soap bubble. ^.^ And I always seem to be close to the ground. Like at knee level.

[Old Dood]

Hi Venus

Yes, barriers seem to take several forms including --

1) psychic fields deliberately created to ensure privacy.

2) energy fields, like Faraday cages and high voltage power lines. (Robert Monroe described several experiences with these.) and

3) physical objects including trees, doors, walls and windows. Usually these physical barriers can be overcome with forethought and effort. However, during my OBEs I had no plan of action or intent once OOB. So when I encountered the trees I found them much more formidable than they should have been.
In other words If I had a stronger motive to go over/get around those trees then I would have managed to do it. That may sound odd yet many people find simple barriers like doors and walls completely unpassable when OOB unless they have a strong motive to overcome them. Remember in the astral/ethereal realm thoughts are of prime importance. So lack of intent (= thought) means that all obstacles are harder to overcome.
Hope that makes sense.

Grey

It makes perfect sense.
I have had obstacles become a problem and then not.
Once I just willed myself pass them.
Like a wall or a window. Other times I felt the texture of the object I 'went through'.
Very slowly too. Almost like slow motion.
When I do finally have an OBE then I will become a bit surprised so I will Fly just to 'stay busy' as to NOT wake up.
I have trouble controlling my 'flight' though.
Once I flew a couple of miles from home and it took everything to 'stop'.
I ended out by the airport. I fly backwards too. On my back as if lying down and flying head first. Weird & annoying.

The 'hovering' out side your home.  I have done that too. Anywheres from 10 feet to 100 feet in the air.
Floating but, at the same time I 'felt someone' near by but, I could see anyone.

Sadly though as of the last few months I have had problems trying to even have an OBE.
I have felt the beginnings of vibrations but that is about it.
Seems I do it easier in the colder months then the warmer.
However, my dreams have been 'busy'.  I can't remember them very well but, I know I am working my buttocks off. hehe

Good post Greytraveller.  You are an interesting person.  It would be a joy to meet you sometime.
I always enjoy reading your threads & posts.

[Greytraveller]

Embodied Words -
Thanx for replying. Regarding flying --
Flight is a skill that I have been VERY Fortunate to control while out of body. Flight is a Great thrill (if done correctly). I heartily recommend that you use affirmations with the intent to achieve outdoor flight during your next OBE. It is a worthwhile goal. And if you are able to fly, even if you go nowhere in particular, then at least you can hone and improve your flight skills during your next OBE.

Old Dood
It is always a pleasure to reply to your posts.
About obstacles- an ability to go through a solid object while OOB seems to primarily depend on both the clearness of the conciousness and the motivation for getting around (or through) the obstacle. I am not an expert but have read a LOT of OBE accounts and have noticed a definate trend regarding obstacles. Physical objects and energy fields are harder to overcome when a person is either a) confused b) highly emotional or scared and c) when lacking energy.
Conversely those obstacles are much more easily overcome when the OBE'er is focused, motivated and charged with energy.
Of course this is only a generalization but this is true for me as well.

Flying is -- simply put -- a  BLAST There is no other sensation quite like it. 
Of course not all of my flights have been picture perfect. During one OBE I inverted head down and feet up while in flight. I started to slowly lower toward an alley 20 feet below. I tried everything to go upright again, including flapping my arms like a bird. Nothing worked. I landed on the pavenment head first and that ended the OBE.   Oh well. lol 

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.

Grey

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.

Grey

Brilliant.  Thanks for the tip Grey. I'm gonna get myself a hemisync CD asap.  I just luuuurve being OOB that I would try anything to get there - with the exception of drugs of course.  I would be grateful for any other good tips.

[Embodied Words]

Very soft music in the background, or perhaps a clock or some other noise you can focus on. If you focus on the sound in the background and try to fall asleep simultaneously, then you should be able to reach the mind awake body asleep state fairly easily.

I've never tried this, but it sounds like it would make sense, so maybe I'll give it a whirl myself. xD

[Blazewind]

I sometimes listen to music at a low volume while going to sleep.  My theory is pretty much the same idea as yours, Embodied Words.  It serves as something interesting to hold my focus and helps keep my mind a bit more awake. 

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

Thanks guys.  I appreciate your help.

[Embodied Words]

Woo-hoo! lol, I like when people agree with me.

[Old Dood]

Old Dood
It is always a pleasure to reply to your posts.
About obstacles- an ability to go through a solid object while OOB seems to primarily depend on both the clearness of the conciousness and the motivation for getting around (or through) the obstacle. I am not an expert but have read a LOT of OBE accounts and have noticed a definate trend regarding obstacles. Physical objects and energy fields are harder to overcome when a person is either a) confused b) highly emotional or scared and c) when lacking energy.
Conversely those obstacles are much more easily overcome when the OBE'er is focused, motivated and charged with energy.
Of course this is only a generalization but this is true for me as well.

Flying is -- simply put -- a  BLAST There is no other sensation quite like it. 
Of course not all of my flights have been picture perfect. During one OBE I inverted head down and feet up while in flight. I started to slowly lower toward an alley 20 feet below. I tried everything to go upright again, including flapping my arms like a bird. Nothing worked. I landed on the pavenment head first and that ended the OBE.   Oh well. lol 

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.
Grey

I need to purchase those tapes.  I could use a 'boost' I suppose.
What exactly do YOU recommend?  Disk Wise from TMI.... I mean.

Thanks....

[Greytraveller]

Rearding hemi-sync --
there are dozens of titles to chose from. Some websites to check out --

www.new-mind.com (click on metamuic)

www.hemi-sync.com  (go to CDs and then click metamusic)

Many new age stores and booksellers would have a paper catalogue of metamusic CDs.

btw I only have one metamusic CD titled 'Spirit's Journey' (costs $ 18)
There is a 4 set of CDs titled "Journeys Out of The Body", the advertisement claimed it was created specifically for facilitating OBEs. It is a bit pricey at $ 99.

Grey

[Old Dood]

Thank you Grey!
I will check these out and tap my credit card once again...hehe!

I have to share this though...not much but, it 'Happened Again'...FINALLY!

Last evening I had a 'small' OBE.
Since I have not have had anything in the last few months that I can remember as an OBE then this one was a breakthrough.

I remember feeling the vibrations/buzz.  I instantly realized I was 'trying' to get out of my body.
So I said: "OK..Roll out...lets go!!"
EVERYThing seemed in slow motion. The Roll Out was like I was slowly falling out.
Then I remember being 'out' but I 'thought' I was in my bedroom.  It was dark and hard to see.
Of course...(Damn it) I felt a bit a fear.
Once again I saw 'someone'.  I am pretty sure it was a female but at a distance and blurry.
I turned away from this being.  I kick myself NOW for doing that.
I have been asking/demanding to 'see my guide(s)'. I believe this being was one of them.
Then I tried to go see my wife that I knew was in the living room. Not far in out little home.
Just a wall, stairs to the basement and then one more wall.
Somehow I could not do it. EVERYthing was in Slo-mo.
Then I remember waking up....then realizing it was still daylight. 8pm there about.
It made me wonder why it was so dark to me.  I kept thinking it was later at night since all I saw was darkness.
I normally go to bed around 8-8:30pm everynight since I get up at 3:30am for work.
Last night I went to bed to read for a while at around 7:15pm. I got through about half a chapter then fell asleep.
I was reading Astral Dynamics for information AND to have Astral Projection on my mind when falling asleep.

I have for the last three nights been taking 'melatonin'.  3mg of it.  Last night I took 1/2 of that.
I cut the pill in half.
Doesn't this drug/supplement 'help' the Pineal Gland work better?
Plus I wake up a lot at night and thought this would help me sleep better.
It does seem to do that.

Anyways...not trying to High-Jack your thread.  Just sharing what Dood been up to.
I am going to give it another shot this evening and hopefully I will be more alert and less afraid.
I HAVE to take the step and move toward these beings I have been slowly been 'noticing' during my travels.
I am willing to bet hard cash that this IS my guide trying to contact me.
It has been my request after all...then I 'freak out'. 
Silly me...

[Greytraveller]

Old Dood

Thanx for posting your OBE. 

From personal experience and reading a lot of OBE reports on the internet I have come up with a theory on how a person progresses.
That progression is NOT linear. Nor is the progression mathematical, nor even exponential.

The progression is Quantum. !!
People try really hard for several weeks or months then experience several projections in a short amount of time.
After that they usually go on a dry spell for three to six months. (Best guess is that they need time to integrate the OBEs with their subconscious AND everyday normal waking life.)
Then, if they continue the regimine (meditation, hemi-sync, induction attempts, affirmations and/or whatever) they experience several profound OBEs inside of a month.

Hopefully that is where you are--- about to experience a series of meaningful (and controlled ) OBEs during the next few weeks.

Not everyone fits this pattern. Most people seem to fit, however. That includes me.

The guide or discarnate that you ignored may well be a sign of greater things to come.

Hope so

Grey

[Old Dood]

Thank you again Grey...You are ALWAYS helpful not only to me but many others here.
No Coinicidence that I had the opportunity to meet you.  No such thing as a coinicidence anyways in my view.
I didn't 'think' of it in those terms. Quantum that is. c.oOL!
Funny how that even makes sense to me...hehe!

Well, I ordered the $99.00 Journeys out of Body CDs.
TMI has them on 'SaLe'!! haha! 15% off. So with shipping and everything getting them to my door will cost $94.15.
That is $84.15 plus $10.00 shipping.
That is where they 'get ya'..No way it actually cost that much even with 'Handling Costs'.
I ship daily via UPS and I know what things cost to ship.

Anyways if anyone else is looking for these then I suggest ordering them now while they are a bit lower in cost.

As of last night...NOTHING! Grrr...I repeated what I did the previous night with no success.
I try not to dwell on anything.
I do not tighten up and repeat over and over 'Project...Project' or anything like that.
I just try to naturally just 'Do it'.
I do speak out loud what I want to do. As IF 'someone' is listening. I believe 'they' are.
I do 'look deeply' into the 'Blackness' like Frank Kebble speaks of.
Last night I saw some 'Odd Stuff'. Hard to describe.
I swear I saw people in an 'area' or a 'room' of some kind.
It morphs so quickly that by the time I focus on whatever it is I am seeing it is gone or something 'different'.

So hopefully these CDs will give me a pattern in which to follow.
A Routine.  I believe a Routine is what I really need.

Remember to PM me over on Open Minds.  Unlimited PMs over there and it is a fantastic site.
More then I can even fully comprehend.

Thanks again...Looking forward to reading more of your 'travels' as well.

[lily moonsong]

When I'm OOB I don't really have a body. Its more like I'm a tiny little dot of awareness. Like a soap bubble. ^.^ And I always seem to be close to the ground. Like at knee level.

The first time I exited my body, I was also shaped like a large sphere...I fell through the bed, and was floating beside it on the floor at knee level.. I couldn't move, for fear of reintegrating with my body.. and my head hurt like holy hell. 

That was the only time I had an exit, but then again.. I really don't practice as much as I need to.   

I wonder why we were at knee level? 

My head hurts because I'm usually conscious in my body and my astral body at the same time.. I have a feeling of being in two places at once... I don't know how to overcome this... when I try to integrate my concious into just one place.. it stops being RTZ zone and turns into a lucid dream or something.

[lily moonsong]

Well, I ordered the $99.00 Journeys out of Body CDs.
TMI has them on 'SaLe'!! haha! 15% off. So with shipping and everything getting them to my door will cost $94.15.
That is $84.15 plus $10.00 shipping.
That is where they 'get ya'..No way it actually cost that much even with 'Handling Costs'.
I ship daily via UPS and I know what things cost to ship.

When I get my job, I'll prolly be ordering those.  ^_^

[Embodied Words]

Yah, movement is weird. And so is being shaped like a sphere. But the sight was what was really cool.

[Old Dood]

Yah, movement is weird. And so is being shaped like a sphere. But the sight was what was really cool.

Weird...AND...Annoying, Frustrating, Irritating. (BUT...Still, it can be EXHILARATING!)
SO....that tells me I am not in full control. I am hindering my own 'movement' in some fashion.
The 'n00b thing' is getting old. [sigh]

As for my own 'body'.  I 'feel' like I am in human form from my 'perspective'.
I have looked at my hands at least twice now that I can 'remember'.
Once they looked like my actual hands but only bluesh-translucent (Glowing kinda like an LED).
Then the other time I remembered to look at my hands they were 'hands' but malformed.
Only way to describe them.  They were like they had odd growths coming out of my fingers and melting at the same time.
However, still with the bluesh-translucent 'glow'.
I have 'felt' myself walk though, as if I had legs.
Most other times I 'flew' or simply 'popped in' like you do in dreams.
SO....that tells me I had to be in a Lucid Dream some of the times too.
OR...back and forth from Dream State to Projections then back to Dream State.

I tell ya...I sure could use a darn good OBE now.
One where I can ask some kind of 'questions'.
I lost my means to make an income today and a few 'answers' would be helpful.
Even vague, cryptic ones would be welcome....anything. HeHe!
Throw me a bone Spirit Guides.  Come on!
Then again to be fair I have had this sinking feeling lately. 
SO....I guess in 'their way' they were doing just that.
OR...it was all that *I* could 'Comprehend/Understand' or even 'Grok' from their perspective.

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

I like reading other people's experiences. 

I once saw my hands which looked exactly like my physical hands.  Once I consciously filled my energy in a white sphere before entering a tunnel to fly in a lightening speed.  At the beginning of a recent OBE I opened my astral eyes which felt exactly like my physical.  Most times though I don't see my astral body or my silver cord.  Wish I could though.

[Greytraveller]

Dood - you got it right in your quote -

I believe a Routine is what I really need

That sums it up pretty well really. A continual Routine of practice and effort Should lead to continued success in exiting the physical body. I know it sounds old fashioned but I do believe it's true.

btw Dood I hope that any recent employment difficulties are only Temporary inconveniences.

Many people perceive their discarnate state out of the physical body differently during their first early OBEs. However, those early OOB misperceptions are usually corrected after a few OBEs. People who OBE regularly have a better 'grasp' of the OOB consciousness. That reduces confusion and allows for greater control (= concentration) during future OBEs.

The idea of OOB consciousness inside a sphere is intriguing. Maybe thats where Spirit Orbs originate??

One more thing and that is OBEs induced through dreams and lucid dreams. About 7 to 10 years ago I was really big on dream control. Then for some reason I just sorta lost interest. Never figured out why though. Here is an excellant chance to restart my personal campaign to OBE through dreams. The theory is sound. I have managed to do it several times. Many people have become proficient at it. It should work on a consistent basis. Must be determined to stay with this through to success.

Grey