Very odd, unexpected experience

[sublime]

hrm. very interesting experience that's for sure. i wanted to ask you though how long you have been meditating? also, how do you meditate? the reason i ask is because i've only had spontaneous projections, nothing else yet nothing like that has every happened to me while meditating. granted i've only meditated for a few months but i think it'd be interesting to project while meditating especially since you're not laying down. well i dont really know what else to say because i have little experience with other beings while projecting but that is definitely something interesting and worth looking into. i find it cool/weird that you were "pulled" out of your body too.

[Illusory]

Sublime,

Thanks for the reply.[]

I've been meditating for 10-12 years but just recently got into astral projection.  I don't do anything unusual or magical when I meditiate.  Honestly I just do what feels comfortable and natural.  When I first started I used to sit legs crossed and chant my mantra but I stopped doing that some years ago.  I no longer use the mantra, Sometimes I'm sitting and sometimes I'll be lying down on my back.  Whatever is comfortable like I said.  

I recently posted a detailed post awhile back on the method I use to project ... let me post a link for you.  []


http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4018&whichpage=1

The only way that works for me to project is to project from a meditation.  Someone mentioned maybe because I've been meditating for so long and I am so used to it.  Honestly I don't know why.

But when you meditate and you reach the point you feel like your almost asleep but still aware and awake, (only way I know how to explain it) thats when I normally induce or try to project out.  At that point the signs begin to surface, the vibrations, the pretty colors, sounds of wind sometimes, voices from near you that seem to echo from everywhere and no where at the same time ... you just tune it all out and focus on the task at hand I guess.

About the pulled out of my body thing, like I mentioned in the post at first I figured it was just my imagination working over time because I'd never felt anything like that before w/out trying to project volunteeringly.

Take care and again thanks for the reply!  []

-Illusory

[Vicky]

Hi! I just wanted to tell that I also had an experience last night when an astral creature maybe was pulling my arm very forcefully in order to pull me out of my body. I couldn't go out, I don't know why but my arm was being pulled so much that it was stretched and its normal positin was aside my body. It was the strangest thing to happen to me. I've never encountered entities during my several OBEs. []

[terrance]

Hello Illusory

I thought I'd reply to this because your experience is similar to one I had several months ago.

The short version - sitting up in room meditating.  Get all the usual phenomena leading up to trance and astral sight etc.  On this occasion my sight was limited (but this never bothers me as I like to use other senses to project).  Got to the intense vibrations and sucking feeling.  Lifted legs, arms and even torso out of body but head wouldn't let go.  The stuck part was very stubborn,

Then I felt a kind presence coming to me.  I focused on my sight and saw a woman come to me - she had  beautiful and peaceful features.  I asked her name and she told me.  She then took hold of my hands and tried to pull me out.  We tried several times.  Then for some reason I put my astral hands behind my head and she grabbed my upper arms - and then I was out.

The projection was long and full of detail - in essence it was a guide helping me and taking me to places and showing me wonderful things - she even showed me my guardian angel from a great distance.

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What I would suggest is that you trust your instincts on this matter.  I would caution you not to fear the experience or to tag terms like "negs" to the experience as this can cloud you judgements and instinctual thoughts on the matter - this has happened to me before.

How good would it be to discover his name?  Was he really lunging at you or some aspect related to your heated connection with your partner? etc etc.

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Anyway - by pursuing further contact with my guide I have discovered many cool things.  I hope this happens for you.

Regards
t

[Terry B]

Pre OBE symptom were quite normal. I've felt pinches, pokes and prods sometime while inducing OBE.

The one that really throw me offguard is the time I ask for assistance. And the assistance come in form of two hand pulling me out. That was as far I go as I was very startled by this. As soon as I become afraid, the hand let go off me spontatentenously.

Now I think that I should've gone with the full experience.

[Illusory]

The first time you run into someone else or something else for that matter while in the RL plane its quite a slap in the face as in, "Wow there really ARE other people here besides me and they DO think on their own."

I think you were right on Terrance, perhaps this guy was only trying to help.  Not having ever seen or run into anyone else in the RL plane before mixed with my current state of mind (upset) at that time made me make a snap judgement w/out realizing it and recoil in fear.

Just proves that I'm very unexperienced in projecting and I do have alot to learn.

Very interesting to hear someone was having the same thoughts, or feelings as I was having!  Thanks for posting your experience Vicky!

I also have felt pinches and pokes, sometimes sounds of yelling or whispering as I'm trying to induce projections.  It used to snap me out of the trance instantly thinking someone was waiting for me in the RL plane.  Once I got over that fear and began ignoring the symtoms that arose once and awhile, I found that no one was really waiting for me at all.  T'was just my own mind and inner fears I was dealing with.  Which I'm continually dealing with even now.

Thanks for your posts and/or thoughts!

-Illusory

[Illusory]

I don't normally post a whole lot, I'm more the reader type, but I had an experience that shocked me recently and I thought I'd share.  Not one of the best stories but when things happen to you rather than reading them on a forum they always seem a bit more intense.  (If that makes sense)  

Its been a couple weeks since my last conscience projection, and honestly I wasn't trying to project this time either which for the most part is what startled me a little bit.  

My girlfriend and I had just had a big fight previously, we were both rather ticked and bent out of shape.  I had gone to the back room to relax and try and cool off.  I tried to read but couldn't focus I was still so upset, so I started to meditate a bit.  It took me twice as long as it normally does I think because I wasn't focusing and my mind was wandering in anger.  

I finally reached the point I had calmed down.  I wasn't trying to project at all at the time.  I've always heard that your unable to project when your upset or distressed so I didn't even bother with it.  I've also heard people talk about others helping you out of your body making projection very easy but I've never experienced this first hand until now.  

It feels strange trying to discribe this because this is the first time I've ever felt this.  As I was meditating I felt something or someone pulling on my astral hands and/or wrists.  At first I figured it was just my imagination so I went with it.  Then it felt like I was literally being pulled out of my body.  With a strong jolt and a small flash of blue'ish green light (sounds corny) I was seperated from my body.  I'd projected on my own several times but it'd never been that easy.  Like I hadn't even tried to project.  Felt like I was floating and being pulled at a high rate of speed but I couldn't see a single thing which made me very nervous as all my previous projections I had at least a little sight, even if fuzzy and dark.

Suddely the pulling stopped and I was left alone in the dark floating, either it had let go or I willed it away without knowing it, not quite sure which.  I've never had to ask for my sight before as I mentioned above but I'd always heard it being done by others with various results.  So I asked for my sight and nothing happened, I asked again and nothing still.  I stood still just floating until my sight came almost afraid to move.  At that point I was a bit confused, still a bit angry from previous and now a little scared not being able to see while projecting.

Then without warning I began to see my home town far below me, seemed I was floating high in the air.  When ever I've projected in the past, normally I don't approach anyone I see or vise versa which I'm fine with for now.  This experience is the first time I've ever had anyone this close to me while projecting.  

As I began to get my sight I noticed a male about my build and height floating in front of me just staring at me, not saying a thing or making any gestures of any kind.  I just stood there for a moment startled, not sure what to say, not even sure if it was my own imagination that created this or not.  Suddenly the figure lunged at me with both hands, getting freaked out I rushed back to my body not even trying to.

As I sat on my bed thinking about what had just happened I'm still puzzled about who or what this figure was or wanted for that matter.  I think I've decided that it was just my imagination that created the figure due to me being in that state of mind at the time I projected, or maybe I drew a neg. entity towards me being close to trance and having those upset feelings.  

What ever it was it really shook me up a bit.

I've heard of entities in the astral communicating by non-verbal communication but I know very little about it.

Guess I just needed to get that out into the open for some reason.

<Feels better already>  [:I]

-Illusory