I try to astral project but I have never really felt real vibrations. I only get tingling and the pins and needles sensation in my legs but I think that is just because me not moving and the blood having difficulty to reach some places. I can feel my body getting pretty heavy and stuff and my hands feel in a pretty different space twisted or or above or below my body. How do I get this vibrations? I pretty much lay down relax listen to the pitch in my ears not thinking. But no vibrations at all. Sometimes I get this feeling as if I was rotating horizontaly counter clockwise. I tried to ask for help from my angel or astral guide but that wont really help until I get the vibrations and I am ready to separate will it? Anyone has some times?
You focus is deeply rooted in your physical existence at the moment (which most people are as well). So because of this you are ultra sensitive to any changes.
The pins and needles you are feeling are likely do to be inactive for a short period, but are NOT the vibrations that can and usually do occur during a AP attempt.
Just to give you my own "Welcome to the NP (Non Physical). I was using the video below and after about 45 minutes of doing what he said, I felt some light vibrations. The vibrations got heavier and heavier. Then I heard what sounded like a Helicopter landing in my room. By now the vibrations were so strong I was convinced there was Helicopter about to crash on our home. It scared the "Beejeebus" out of me" But, I could wait to do that again, lol.
The next time wasn't so extreme though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IhZAHV_xl0
You don't need vibrations to AP. Feeling vibrations means that your focus is still on your physical body. You need to come up with some kind of "Mental technique" that takes that focus away. Like for instance, saying a Mantra, or breathing techniques, visualizing, creating story plots. There are all kinds of techniques you can use. You can even create your own personal one. No one knows what works better for you than you! :wink:
Good Luck and Safe Travels! :-)
Thanks Lion. Will try it out. His descriptions of what I might see kind of freaked me out. And I was over the being afraid stuff.
The first time I felt the vibrations it was as wild as a rickety roller coaster, I was like what in the heck is going on and then once I realized what was happening I woke up. The next time they were light and sort of pleasant even.
I feel jealous a little of your guys. You get vibrations easily. I tried to follow the instructions on the video provided but the red dot from the flame just fades out and disappears. :/ Mhmh :/
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 03, 2014, 21:23:38
I feel jealous a little of your guys. You get vibrations easily. I tried to follow the instructions on the video provided but the red dot from the flame just fades out and disappears. :/ Mhmh :/
Just an FYI...
You don't *EVER* need to experience the vibrations in order to project.
It's simply not a requirement.
Quote from: Xanth on June 04, 2014, 01:53:32
Just an FYI...
You don't *EVER* need to experience the vibrations in order to project.
It's simply not a requirement.
I know but how do I know I am ready to project then?
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 04, 2014, 11:57:06
I know but how do I know I am ready to project then?
When you find yourself somewhere other than where you expect to be... you're projecting. :)
Quote from: Xanth on June 04, 2014, 12:14:23
When you find yourself somewhere other than where you expect to be... you're projecting. :)
I know but how do I know I am ready to project then? Xanth is correct. You do not always get vibrations. You guess and you take a chance. If you ap you ap and if you do not ap, you do not ap. I imagine something and that is when I know I can ap if it works.
Quote from: Xanth on June 04, 2014, 12:14:23
When you find yourself somewhere other than where you expect to be... you're projecting. :)
So If I dont get vibrations nor the floaty feeling do I think of for example being close to sun or looking on earth from space and my vision will activate?
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 04, 2014, 18:14:55
So If I dont get vibrations nor the floaty feeling do I think of for example being close to sun or looking on earth from space and my vision will activate?
It's a bit more than just "thinking" of it... you have to really place the Intent. In other words you need to REALLY have the desire to visit/see what it is you're looking to see.
Then yes.
But it's even more than just that... it's about losing yourself physically in that moment. Allowing yourself to "go".
Sigh...it is really hard for me to try during the day. All those distractions and noises... I can manage to silence the conversations in my head but trying to silence songs is really hard for me. And also I think that my breathing is disturbing me which is really odd because I breathe silently but I suppose my mind makes this Uuuh ahhh sounds when i inhale and exhale. And I read its difficult to try at night.
For me if I get the vibrations, it feels as though its my head vibrating more than anything else, its usually accompanied by a buzzing sound sometimes quiet and sometimes extremely loud, sometimes the vibrations have felt so strong that it feels as though my teeth are chattering :)
What method are you using? As a novice I have most success from sleeping for around 5 hours, getting up (you should be in that really tired state where you really don't want to get up but force yourself to) stay up for about 15mins and then go back to bed.
Usually I fall asleep for a few mins and then regain my awareness which is when the vibes start.
Hope that helps
Quote from: urshebear on June 04, 2014, 20:20:44
For me if I get the vibrations, it feels as though its my head vibrating more than anything else, its usually accompanied by a buzzing sound sometimes quiet and sometimes extremely loud, sometimes the vibrations have felt so strong that it feels as though my teeth are chattering :)
What method are you using? As a novice I have most success from sleeping for around 5 hours, getting up (you should be in that really tired state where you really don't want to get up but force yourself to) stay up for about 15mins and then go back to bed.
Usually I fall asleep for a few mins and then regain my awareness which is when the vibes start.
Hope that helps
I try to listen to the pitch in my ears. Or try to visualize blue sheep and not think about anything just seeing a blue sheep. I would like to try that low sleep method but I am too lazy to wake up in the morning. I might try today. How do you regain your awereness? DOnt you just continue to sleep?
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 04, 2014, 20:07:33
Sigh...it is really hard for me to try during the day. All those distractions and noises... I can manage to silence the conversations in my head but trying to silence songs is really hard for me. And also I think that my breathing is disturbing me which is really odd because I breathe silently but I suppose my mind makes this Uuuh ahhh sounds when i inhale and exhale. And I read its difficult to try at night.
Try holding your breath and observing what that does for your surface thoughts? :)
Quote from: Xanth on June 04, 2014, 22:38:27
Try holding your breath and observing what that does for your surface thoughts? :)
When I hold my breath I stop thinking completely. The problem is..I cant hold my breath for 10 minutes or so to achieve the vibrations :P
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 04, 2014, 20:07:33
Sigh...it is really hard for me to try during the day. All those distractions and noises... I can manage to silence the conversations in my head but trying to silence songs is really hard for me. And also I think that my breathing is disturbing me which is really odd because I breathe silently but I suppose my mind makes this Uuuh ahhh sounds when i inhale and exhale. And I read its difficult to try at night.
View your body as a chunk of Swiss cheese with holes all through it. Then ALLOW the sounds to go right through you. Meditation in general teaches you how to not just shut these sounds off, but instead to just watch them go by. Just as it teaches you to ALLOW your thoughts to flow. But not to get caught up in them. When you begin to do this, you will find that they aren't an issue anymore. The deeper you are in a NP focus, the less physical distractions you will encounter. Daily practice will help you greatly with this.
You also always have the option of using a Blindfold for the light and ear plugs or Headphones to quiet the sounds around you during daytime attempts.
Quote from: Lionheart on June 04, 2014, 23:33:29
View you body as a chunk of Swiss cheese with holes all through it. Then ALLOW the sounds to go right through you. Meditation in general teaches you how to not necessarily shut these sounds off, but to just watch them go by. Just as it teaches you to ALLOW your thoughts to flow. But not to get caught up in them. When you begin to do this, you will find that they aren't an issue anymore. Practice will help you greatly with this.
You also always have the option of using a Blindfold for the light and ear plugs or Headphones to quiet the sounds around you during daytime attempts.
I just tried to project. After a while and a slight black out I felt my left hand in a weird position. Guess its nothing releated to astral projection because it didnt feel floaty or anything. It just felt kind of distorted.
QuoteHow do you regain your awereness? DOnt you just continue to sleep?
I usually lay there just doing some calm breathing and attempting to "notice" any changes in the blackness of my eyelids and then I fall asleep, I then wake up maybe 5mins later but I wake up in the mind-awake/body-asleep state which is when I might experience vibrations (sometimes I don't)
It doesn't work all of the time but it worked a lot for me when I was first starting out, infact I projected the first time I attempted it like the same day I found out about all of this lol and I would often have maybe 2 or 3 a night....
It has slowed down for me now so I have been trying to meditate and try other techniques. Unfortunately I have not yet been successful using any of those other methods.
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 04, 2014, 11:57:06
I know but how do I know I am ready to project then?
You can still look for signs, such as, if your body is starting to feel lighter or feels different in anyway. Your breathing is calmer and more relaxed. Your mind is starting to feel more relaxed.
Thanks urshe. I will try this tomorrow morning (couldnt do this today because I went to sleep at 4:30 am).
Suzy usually when I get this slight vibrations ,,if they are real vibrations...I start to breathe faster and more shallow.
Just assume it is a symptom and try to ap. It will not do any harm. Give it time as the first few times we can muck it up. It sounds like you are close.
Quote from: Astralsuzy on June 05, 2014, 13:05:16
Just assume it is a symptom and try to ap. It will not do any harm. Give it time as the first few times we can muck it up. It sounds like you are close.
Yap. I tried to deepen the feeling. Just every single time I achieve this, something in my room cracks and I dont get scared but I twitch and the state just vanishes.
ToX, It sounds to me like you are at the "hyper awareness state" of this practice. Whereas every new sensation or occurrence knocks you back to your physical focus. It's like two steps forward, one step back.
This also shows that you haven't quite confronted your fears yet. But like a fine wine, it gets better in time.
You need to learn to TRUST, then just RELAX, RELEASE and LET GO. ALLOW what's going to happen to happen.
This is much easier said than done. It takes patience, perseverance and a lot of practice to be successful with AP.
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 05, 2014, 13:34:48
Yap. I tried to deepen the feeling. Just every single time I achieve this, something in my room cracks and I dont get scared but I twitch and the state just vanishes.
Lionheart gave you good advice. You need to ignore the twitch feelings and the crack sound. This is when you have to forget about your physical body otherwise you will not get out of your body. The process will end. I know it can be hard to do but that is how it is.
I will keep trying. Thanks everyone for your advice. I will let you know if I have any success.
Positive vibrations, at least to me, feel like a cool heat in the air. It is electric. You feel love and peace. And it is thick enough to cut with a knife.
sigh. still no success. Should I keep my mind active withouth any thoughts or should I lower the activity of my mind. The lowered mind activity actually makes me fall asleep. In my last 2 tries I heard this..hmm how to describe it..this very light sound as when the laptops ventilator runs as slow as possible but I only hear it in one of my ears.
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 08, 2014, 23:00:27
sigh. still no success. Should I keep my mind active withouth any thoughts or should I lower the activity of my mind. The lowered mind activity actually makes me fall asleep. In my last 2 tries I heard this..hmm how to describe it..this very light sound as when the laptops ventilator runs as slow as possible but I only hear it in one of my ears.
When I was first starting, I heard different kinds of strange sounds just in one ear right before I projected. You must be close!
Lowered mind activity (relaxed mind) is good. -Just not so relaxed that you fall asleep. Do you ever just take a little break from busy life by 'zoning out' - you stare into space and let your eyes blur - your mind completely relaxes - your jaw goes slack - someone comes over to you and waves their hand in front of your face and asks if there's anybody home? That feeling of your mind completely relaxing is what you're going for. Sleepiness is generally not a good thing, but having said that, you can use it as a tool to achieve the mind awake, BODY ASLEEP state quicker. Just let yourself come close to sleep (but not too close!) then wake yourself up again by refocusing a little. Then do that again...and your body will relax and 'fall asleep' quicker. It's useful if you want to project before bed (as opposed to waking from sleep) and your body isn't relaxed yet. You don't have to wait around forever in order to achieve the correct state. - 10 or 15 min. should do it. Good luck. You're doing well! :)
Quote from: soarin12 on June 09, 2014, 03:29:48
When I was first starting, I heard different kinds of strange sounds just in one ear right before I projected. You must be close!
Lowered mind activity (relaxed mind) is good. -Just not so relaxed that you fall asleep. Do you ever just take a little break from busy life by 'zoning out' - you stare into space and let your eyes blur - your mind completely relaxes - your jaw goes slack - someone comes over to you and waves their hand in front of your face and asks if there's anybody home? That feeling of your mind completely relaxing is what you're going for. Sleepiness is generally not a good thing, but having said that, you can use it as a tool to achieve the mind awake, BODY ASLEEP state quicker. Just let yourself come close to sleep (but not too close!) then wake yourself up again by refocusing a little. Then do that again...and your body will relax and 'fall asleep' quicker. It's useful if you want to project before bed (as opposed to waking from sleep) and your body isn't relaxed yet. You don't have to wait around forever in order to achieve the correct state. - 10 or 15 min. should do it. Good luck. You're doing well! :)
I day dream rarely now. When I was younger or at school I would space out more often. When I actually did day dream yeasterday the light flickered when I blinked and I heard the radio making the buzzing sound. Might just be my imagination tho.
I try at night. However nothing really actually happens in an hour or I lower my mind activity and fall asleep. :/
Quote from: ToXiPhobia on June 09, 2014, 23:30:52
I day dream rarely now. When I was younger or at school I would space out more often. When I actually did day dream yeasterday the light flickered when I blinked and I heard the radio making the buzzing sound. Might just be my imagination tho.
I try at night. However nothing really actually happens in an hour or I lower my mind activity and fall asleep. :/
If it fits into your schedule well, try taking a 1 to 1 and 1/2 hr. nap after dinner (no AP during this time) and then attempt projection at bed time which should be within 3 1/2 hrs. of your nap. Get up early and stay active during the day up until your nap. For more info. on this technique, go to the home page and look under the heading - Astral Consciousness. Then look for the Bedeekin method. It works crazy well for some people, including me. If it's going to work for you, you'll know it within a few minutes of you setting up your meditation state. The blackness behind your eye lids will become dynamic. Sort of vortex -like. Almost like a black hole is sucking you into it. Then just stay the course and wait. You might end up in the NP, or at a certain point you will realize that you have lost all awareness of your physical body and you will instinctively know it's time to do an exit technique.
I like this method because I think it can really help a beginner who just isn't getting anywhere. I will tell you that the signposts can get very dramatic with this one, and you have to remain calm and relaxed no matter what you experience or else you'll ruin it for yourself. No fear or excitement!
Also, I noticed you said that it's hard for you to get songs out of your head. I almost always project with a song in my head. It would be very counter productive for me to try to get the song out. Just review what LionHeart said earlier on this thread about letting the thoughts (song!) go right through you. That's the key to it all! :)
See if you can change the words into a mantra, by repeating this you'll be passively active and hopefully not fall asleep.
Use sounds rather than words, the more meaningless the better.
Quote from: Szaxx on June 10, 2014, 11:44:23
See if you can change the words into a mantra, by repeating this you'll be passively active and hopefully not fall asleep.
Use sounds rather than words, the more meaningless the better.
Very true! When I project with a song in my head it's either just the tune with no words, or if words are present I'm not thinking about them at all. Also I usually just repeat the chorus of the song over and over in my mind. (or a part of it that sticks in my mind the best) Very repetitive and great for trance. If I went into verses that were very involved, I'd run the risk of loosing that passively active feel. Projecting with a song in your head works best if the song is truly 'stuck' in your head. It plays itself. You don't have to do anything accept put the chorus on replay. lol.
Quote from: soarin12 on June 10, 2014, 13:53:28
Very true! When I project with a song in my head it's either just the tune with no words, or if words are present I'm not thinking about them at all. Also I usually just repeat the chorus of the song over and over in my mind. (or a part of it that sticks in my mind the best) Very repetitive and great for trance. If I went into verses that were very involved, I'd run the risk of loosing that passively active feel. Projecting with a song in your head works best if the song is truly 'stuck' in your head. It plays itself. You don't have to do anything accept put the chorus on replay. lol.
I think everyone has one of these "stuck" in your head musical triggers.
My own nemesis is this one, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEtxJ4-sh4&list=RD8WEtxJ4-sh4
I was never really a fan of TLC. But heard it back in the 90's and whenever I do, I can't get it out of my head for days. I didn't listen to the above link this time, lol! :-D
Careful clicking on the link though. I warned you, lol! :-) :-) :-)
I heard it recently in the movie "The Millers" and when I did I just laughed. It was a funny part of the movie as well. But for the next 2 days after I was stuck with it. I really do enjoy the song though! :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmS8EijNWeU
Quote from: Lionheart on June 10, 2014, 19:58:35
I think everyone has one of these "stuck" in your head musical triggers.
My own nemesis is this one, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEtxJ4-sh4&list=RD8WEtxJ4-sh4
I was never really a fan of TLC. But heard it back in the 90's and whenever I do, I can't get it out of my head for days. I didn't listen to the above link this time, lol! :-D
Careful clicking on the link though. I warned you, lol! :-) :-) :-)
I heard it recently in the movie "The Millers" and when I did I just laughed. It was a funny part of the movie as well. But for the next 2 days after I was stuck with it. I really do enjoy the song though! :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmS8EijNWeU
Ooooh Yeah!! That one is dangerous!! :lol: I remember back when it was popular, I'd have to change the station immediately when it came on or risk insanity! Lol.