ok today twice ive made it to a relax state and both times i got to even deeper relax state
i'm just laying there on my back and nothings happening
i need a tech to do after the relax state so i can get the vibration
if i cant get this to work then i'm going for the jump technique
in the past this use to get me into a levitating paralyze feeling.
You could try saying a mantra while going to sleep. I used to say mantras and astral projected a lot from them:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=193568#193568
Can you explain how to do the jump technique...