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[James Star of The Sea]

Hey Mike,

It sounds as if you are having some very interesting experiences. But always remember, you are the one who has the control over what is happening, it's just a matter of practising how to improve your projection skills.

If you want to have more experiences then these spontaeneous occurances may give you plenty of potential, but if it isn't what you want, just stay aware of your physical body to be able to return to it instantly.

[astral27]

In the documentation I have read states it's not a good idea to try to touch someone like that. Especially when you mentioned touching breast, that would be a violation of her body (she doesn't know you are there and hasn't given you permission to do that). They also recommend against souls, I still don't quite understand this, having some kind of sexual contact with another soul, especially if they are married to someone else. You also shouldn't want to OBE just to see someone else's figure, it should be for spiritial reasons.

First of all, I wonder once we do OBE would we even have any of those sexual feelings, after all, we are not in our body anymore. We might want to be close or one with another soul, but sex? I think that is mostly on the physical plane. The astral and physical plane are two separate things.

So even though you may have had other OBEs, maybe you should think was that one a real experience or were you sleeping (sometimes I think I have OBEs when I sleep, but since I was sleeping I feel like I can't be sure)?

I defintely believe that everyone can have an OBE, I had one when I was young. Now I'm getting very close to having another one. However, we all must be carefull, I think, to separate the two different planes: the physical and the astral. Just my opinion.

[sublime]

astral27,
 first of all... haha. i really didnt intend to touch her there and to be honest i didnt really have control at that point so what i'm thinking is that the beginning of the experience when i was in my dorm room was an OBE and then it sort of turned back to my physical and i had a dream about being next to some girl because that part of it felt really weird and different.


  Secondly, you have to remember that everything is filtered by the physical brain so although you may think that we arent able to think sexually during an OBE, we are still connected to our physical bodies therefore our mind is able to think of whatever it thinks normally during an OBE. also, i've heard many people talk about how they have "astral sex" therefore it must be possible to think sexually.

  with my experience, i actually had no control over where my hand was at first and then i thought to myself ahh what the heck i dont want my hand anywhere near here.

- mike

[sublime]

right after i made that last post... i went to take a nap. I'm back at my dorm now and when i started napping, i started to dream. i remember one part of the dream and that was that i was watching TV with my brother. I then became lucid and consciously thought of projecting while i was in the dream. next thing i knew, i was back in my dorm room. i felt my legs start to rise first and then i rolled off my bed (which is about 7 feet in the air so that wouldve stunk if i really rolled off). the first thing i thought of was finding my spirit guide but i dont think i'm ready for that since this is all happening spontaneously. i also thought of negative entities but then i got scared so i said (and i actually heard this in my mind) "no i'm ok, no i'm ok". i floated in one secion of my room and then attempted to go to the room above me. i did have a hard time going through the ceiling this time so i came back to my room and tried to go to the room on the side of me. all of a sudden i wasnt really able to control and i started moving faster and i was in some room, that i believe is here in my dorm, and a girl was sitting on a futon talking on the phone i think. i reached my arm out and tried to touch her (first thing i tried to touch was her breast, then i thought what am i doing so i moved to her hair). nothing really happened and i started feeling pressure in my neck. someone please tell me what's going on. i never have all of these spontaneous sensations in such a short period of time and now i'm becoming so much more conscious of them. i dont know if this is a good thing but i think it is?  

- mike