what happened to me?

[erika_]

Hello everyone!

I recently had a weird dream experience and I'm looking forward to hearing your insights on the subject. Here's a brief version of what happened:


I was dreaming of a teacher I've known for no longer than 2 months, and suddenly I noticed her hands were not quite her hands - that was the cue for me to realize I was in a dream.

At first I thought she could be a mere character of my imagination, so I tried to control her, make her move around and so forth, but that didn't work.

She looked extremely drowsy, kept saying she hadn't had her coffee, and such oddities.

I, then, started asking trivial questions, and we ended up having a nice long conversation. (I don't feel like I remember one tenth of the whole thing, though)
By this time, the whole dream scenario was really bright! I was feeling unbelievably comfortable and relaxed. We chatted for what seemed to last an entire night of sleep (or even longer!).

Suddenly I tell her something like "too bad this is a dream because it's really fun!" and she comes up to me, grabs my hands, looks deep into my eyes and says "this is not a dream" and displays her hands as an evidence - yes, they were really her hands this time! And she continues with "this is the 6th plane... I'm not going to remember this because I haven't had my coffee, but this time you will, and you can wake up right now and tell me about it".
I had troubles awakening, so she bit my hand and I managed to wake up for good.


The first thing I did was jolt every piece of information I could remember about our conversation onto my notebook, such as parts of her phone number and other bits of personal information.

The following week I met her in class and told her this whole story. We were both like "what the F***!!!" because I really got a LOT of things damn right, including a huge part of her phone number, things about her mom and so on. All of which I couldn't possibly know.

The reason I'm not scared is because I know what an awesome and soothing experience it was, - all my senses felt really enhanced throughout the whole dream, it was a VERY intense experience and there's no possible way I can link anything other than joy to it.

However, I do find it very bizarre that I was able to get an enormous amount of accurate information!

What do you guys say about it? Is that astral projecting?
It might be important to say that when I woke up I felt more rested than I normally do. Everything was just peaceful and good, more than words can describe.

Is there any chance we might have actually been to a "sixth dimension" or whatever? I'm fairly new to this subject, I don't know what to believe or not, but it would be cool to hear similar stories if you have any.

[Szaxx]

Hi,

This sounds like a projection to a higher level by your description. You also have more stories to tell but will find them when you go somewhere physical and remember being there before. It'll make sense dont worry.
This new teacher must know more of the meeting, she came to you so ask if you can of her awareness.
While you were there was it as real as being awake? It may have some strange parts or things like her hands but ignore these.
Good post.

[erika_]

Yep, it's even hard to describe how real it felt. Almost more real than being awake. All my senses were enhanced, I was able to read from a distance that I normally can't, the part when she grabbed my hands was also very intense, the sense of touch was stronger... everything was stronger, really. And super bright.

But what exactly is considered a projection to a higher level? Are we talking about dimensions, brain frequencies, or they're pretty much the same thing... or...?

[AzurePhoenix]

Fascinating!

I believe it was some odd sort of connection, tho it makes the events much weirder when the teacher you have only known for a few months, things like these are rare when they are not on purpose.

I believe you both had some sort of awareness, sensitivity and strong connecting between the subconcious and they allowed the connection to be made and you guys interact.

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Or randomly out of nowhere you projected to your teacher, or since you mentioned you are new, your teacher might be some advanced mind with developed abilities (mental projection, astral projection or telepathy) and allowed the connection by being aware of you being sort of awakened.

Or you somehow know each other from some past life.

[Lionheart]

 Congratulations, this definitely sounds like a successful projection to me. You had access to the "Wider Reality" and there you received data. You could verify this data, so this is going to keep you coming back for more. The doorway to discovery has opened for you.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Generally, there exist many levels to travel to. The badlands are the lower levels, full of nasties around the corner so to speak. These places are foggy, dark and feel dismal you dont like being in them. The higher levels are brighter, clearer than physical reality as you have witnessed yourself. You dont want to return from them as they are that pleasurable.
Theres lots to read on this subject and generalisations are very basic info only. The actuality of it is more complex than the human mind can comprehend.
You have already been out and that is an achievement in itself.

[eaglevision]

Very nice!

Shared projections are indeed something very hard to achieve, but they are possible.
I recommend that you take a look at Robert Monroe's books, there are documented cases of information fetching, kinda like you've experienced.

most people are trying to achieve the kind of experience you just described so be proud of yourselves!

Are you and/or your teacher at all spiritualized? I don't mean necessarily mystical... sometimes its a matter of being able to focus and mantain concentration for extended periods of time. are you used to it?

Your description of vividness and brightness does relate to a higher vibratory state, that is a higher dimension, but we cannot know which one it was. What is very impressive is that two people that have known eachother for such short time were able to tune in perfectly within the same frequency range, all of that unintendedly. it's a very good sign in my opinion!!

[erika_]

Thanks I guess!

I wouldn't consider us being spiritualized or anything (Well, I can only speak for myself since I don't really know much about my teacher! But as far as she told me, she's just as skeptic as I am. We're just really puzzled and don't know what to believe or not!)

As for the concentration thing, well, we're both musicians - that's what she teaches, actually - so I guess one can say we're used to keeping focused, yeah. And I happen to live next to a stream, I'm often exposed to white-noise, so it's pretty easy for me to stay calm and relaxed here.


I'm really looking for more rational explanations about this. You know, I wouldn't want to be seen as the crazy weirdo who is able to find out information when I sleep. That just doesn't seem right. At first it was sort of disturbing and not easy to deal with.

Now I've been trying to read more on the topic and put my thoughts in order. If you have suggestions of articles or whatever, they'd be much appreciated!

[Lionheart]

 Keep reading. There is a plethora of knowledge and advice to be found here. Use the search engine in the top right hand corner for any in-depth posts on the subject.Thomas Campbell would be a great place to start. He talks about accessing knowledge and data in the Wider Reality quite a bit. He has a number of seminars to be found on You Tube.
I'm sure we are all considered "weirdos" here by the general public, but so was Einstein, Newton, Tesla etc.  

[eaglevision]

As for the concentration thing, well, we're both musicians - that's what she teaches, actually - so I guess one can say we're used to keeping focused, yeah. And I happen to live next to a stream, I'm often exposed to white-noise, so it's pretty easy for me to stay calm and relaxed here.

now that is some relevant information! this makes it very obvious that the two of you are at least one step ahead in elevating your own frequencies. that normally takes years of meditation practice.
most people i know who are able to have projections are more prone to maintaining their lucidity because they are used to keeping focused in their daily lives. So practicing really helps!

it is still amazing that you haven't done this on purpose. i think you and your teacher have something to work out together if you wish to. there is a whole world to be explored and you should not feel like this is some sort of esoteric crap. don't worry about being called a weirdo, you've had an incredible experience and that is what matters.

you said your teacher was sleepy in the projection, that is probably because when you entered her frequency she was just having a normal dream. that makes it hard for her to remember it. she should work in maintaining dream lucidity, if she cant remember her it she is missing out on rare experiences such as the one you described. tell her to keep a dream journal!

look for Robert Monroe, Thomas Campbell, Stephen Laberge... Laberge has exercises for remembering dreams... it may be time for you to send out your teacher some homework so make her read that

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Knowing things from sleep that you didn't beforehand is nothing crazy. If its a problem PM me I've been doing this for about 50 years. It also spills into the physical too. If its strong you'll know some amazing stuff some nice some not. Sound familiar to you at all?

[twilighter]

What a fascinating experience Erika. Did your teacher mention whether she has ever tried meditation, or experienced any form of astral projection in the past? Either way, it must have amazed her that you were so accurate with certain details of her life.

[erika_]

I don't know which one of us felt more shocked!

Well, to me it does feel pretty crazy since I'm not used to any of this, I don't meditate, I don't.. anything! What has changed in my life recently was my lifestyle, you know, eating habits and physical activity. A few months ago I decided to change and cleanse myself, haha. Thinking about it now I sure notice all of this improved my sleep very much, and I can remember dreams better... but suddenly this! It's a bit more than what I could possibly expect!

[eaglevision]

What has changed in my life recently was my lifestyle, you know, eating habits and physical activity. A few months ago I decided to change and cleanse myself, haha. Thinking about it now I sure notice all of this improved my sleep very much, and I can remember dreams better... but suddenly this! It's a bit more than what I could possibly expect!

hmmm, the more you tell us about yourself the more this seems to make more sense. it was not all of a sudden apparently.
people should pay attention to what you are saying here. taking care of the body is a great place to start in order to get the mind flowing. so simple, yet so many people miss this. you treat your body the way it deserves to be treated... its gonna give you nice things back! that's just how it is! and if you cleansed yourself.. no wonder you're getting your rewards for it. you must have done a great job btw
eating habits do have a straight connection with sleep. hormones released throughout the night will directly impact how deeply you can rest, and you can guess that is related to brain frequencies and so and so

[twilighter]

I don't know which one of us felt more shocked!

Well, to me it does feel pretty crazy since I'm not used to any of this, I don't meditate, I don't.. anything! What has changed in my life recently was my lifestyle, you know, eating habits and physical activity. A few months ago I decided to change and cleanse myself, haha. Thinking about it now I sure notice all of this improved my sleep very much, and I can remember dreams better... but suddenly this! It's a bit more than what I could possibly expect!

That probably did the trick then. I know Robert Monroe said he started experiencing OBE's, after creating and listening to sleep tapes for his business, not to induce AP's, but to help others relax or get better sleep. Still it had a profound effect on him. Sounds like the change in your lifestyle and improved sleep, did it for you.

[twilighter]

Yes, exactly Eaglevision!

[eaglevision]

That probably did the trick then. I know Robert Monroe said he started experiencing OBE's, after creating and listening to sleep tapes for his business, not to induce AP's, but to help others relax or get better sleep. Still it had a profound effect on him. Sounds like the change in your lifestyle and improved sleep, did it for you.

100% agreed

we have a lesson to learn out of what erika is saying here. improving lifestyle may do the trick and enhance our experiences.
her teacher may have something going on as well, maybe she does not even realize it, but there has to be something.... they are both musicians as she mentioned.... i still think this plays a role in the case... music...
some of you may believe they have a special connection with eachother, but she is saying this was random and they've met recently... maybe there is something else to it. maybe the teacher holds the answer...

[twilighter]

Ah yes, good point...the music too!

[eaglevision]

There are researches by Glenn Schellenberg showing how musicians have better self discipline, memory, and are able to concentrate for way longer periods of time. all of that relates to astral projecting so of course it is a factor that helped them both.  i wonder what would happen if they both tried projecting again with binaural beats or somwthing like that...... it should work brilliantly for them!

[erika_]

Cool stuff! I'm kind of still in awe because this is a whole new world for me, and realizing how things are connected just makes life much juicier

The question for me right now is: How can I make the best out of what happened? Ok, I don't get how or why this connection with my teacher has been made, but that doesn't matter, really. It was kickass, it must mean something good. So I'm fine with it. More than that, I feel privileged that it happened to me and I remember it.

Thing is, now I feel much closer to a person who "doesn't remember what happened". What's next? I don't know what to expect. It feels good... but still puzzling! I can't go on ignoring what happened - it was too strong and sometimes it feels like there is something else to come out of it, but at the same time I don't want to push or force any kind of unnatural behavior between us.
I still dream of her, most of the times I don't remember what, but recently I had a dream in which I didn't see her at any time but could feel her presence watching the scene by my side. But I didn't get lucid...

I'll try to practice and read on.

Your words have been really enlightening and kind, so keep them coming

[eaglevision]

Thing is, now I feel much closer to a person who "doesn't remember what happened".

no need for quotation marks here! she doesn't remember what happened but i assure you she is pretty darn shocked that you guessed stuff about her life. she knows it happened!
i just re-read your story and she told you she wasnt going to remember it, that in itself is a sign of awareness. she got the skills but she is lacking the memory. a dream journal would come in handy

The question for me right now is: How can I make the best out of what happened? Ok, I don't get how or why this connection with my teacher has been made, but that doesn't matter, really. It was kickass, it must mean something good. So I'm fine with it. More than that, I feel privileged that it happened to me and I remember it.

Thing is, now I feel much closer to a person who "doesn't remember what happened". What's next? I don't know what to expect. It feels good... but still puzzling! I can't go on ignoring what happened - it was too strong and sometimes it feels like there is something else to come out of it, but at the same time I don't want to push or force any kind of unnatural behavior between us.
I still dream of her, most of the times I don't remember what, but recently I had a dream in which I didn't see her at any time but could feel her presence watching the scene by my side. But I didn't get lucid...

I'll try to practice and read on.

Your words have been really enlightening and kind, so keep them coming

you cant ignore what happened and there is obviously something to come out of it. it could be that she has been your astral friend for a long time and now you finally met her in real life.
the point is, you found eachother, now you can work together..... you know.. the same way physical exercise and healthy lifestyle helps you relax deeply in dreams and restore yourself, the same holds truth the other way around. if you keep up a good sleeping habit good things will manifest for you in your waking life. lucid dreaming and astral projections are not just other dimension stuff. some people cure phobias and such during their sleep. its a mistake to think those things separately. we are all multidimensional beings after all
unfortunately our culture does not encourage us to pay the necessary attention to it.....

[Contenteo]

Welcome to the Pulse Erika.

Man the feeling of, "hey, wait a second, that's not right, this must be a dream is still one of my favorites to this day"
It's great. 

I'm really looking for more rational explanations about this. You know, I wouldn't want to be seen as the crazy weirdo who is able to find out information when I sleep.

I would go down each one of the boards and read the stickies that peak your interest. They are all stickied for a reason.

The question for me right now is: How can I make the best out of what happened?

My take is that if you are looking for the key that proves all religions were formed from different cultural perspectives of the same phenomenon. Then your recent experience, was you hitting the jackpot. You are on the edge of a vast chasm of knowledge. Your life won't be the same if you start intensely researching this discipline, ever. In fact it will probably be in disarray for sometime if you do want to delve into astral projection as a science before it returns to normal. I would sit down a make a serious list of questions you want answered. In a couple months this list will help you reflect on what your current perspective. Your note trail of research will be your very lifeline as you start rewiring your brain to accomodate for your recent experiences.

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[erika_]

it could be that she has been your astral friend for a long time and now you finally met her in real life.

Interesting! You just made me realize I dream of strange people all the time... would you suggest they exist for real too?

the point is, you found eachother, now you can work together.....

Yeah, I get you, but work together... in doing what, exactly? What would you do if you were in my shoes?
We were expecting none of this. I do kinda feel there is something to be done, though, but I don't know what it is or how to do it. Plus, that can feel particularly awkward when you have known the person for 2 months only. It's challenging to figure out what is going on, but I'm enjoying the process!

My take is that if you are looking for the key that proves all religions were formed from different cultural perspectives of the same phenomenon. Then your recent experience, was you hitting the jackpot. You are on the edge of a vast chasm of knowledge. Your life won't be the same if you start intensely researching this discipline, ever. In fact it will probably be in disarray for sometime if you do want to delve into astral projection as a science before it returns to normal.

I am in disarray already, haha! It all hit me pointblank, I was not looking for any explanation, I'm not a believer or disbeliever of anything in particular, so... you can guess how weird this feels for me. I know all of this is possible cause it just happened to me, so what else is out there? All of a sudden I'm questioning the limits of everything from consciousness to the characters in my dreams. Pretty overwhelming. I'll just read on and on and on...