Okay, I AP'ed again! It was a SOBE though..
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I laid down on my bed and I didn't even think about OBEing. I was really thirsty, but too lazy to roll over to the other side of the bed and take a sip of water from the nightstand. I kept thinking about moving over there to drink from it, and soon the vibrations and this weird squealing noise began. I 'got up' and decided to go into the kitchen to get something else to drink and calm my nerves. My door was open, so I just went through. " I feel awfully light, I must be losing weight," I thought jokingly. Looking around and seeing what an eery glow there was around everything, I realized that this must have been a dream- but how? Everything was in its place, and it seemed so real! I shot through the floor. "Yup, this is a dream," I must've thought. I thought it was my FIRST lucid dream!!! I went to my room, and looked at the computer screen. To my surprise, it was on the same web page that I had been on when I went to sleep! 'Very lucid..." I then looked at the bed in horror. THERE WAS MY BODY. " This can't be an OBE..." My friend and I had been testing our OBE skills, so he planted a 4-digit number in his room. I thought about him and there i was in his room. He was asleep, and his astral body was standing up beside him. "Hey, Ryan!!" I said, excited. I then remembered what someone had said about people's astral forms standing up unconscious while they are asleep. I looked at the table and rattled off a four digit number, " 4786." I still wasn't convinced wholly that this was an OBE. I begun to drift in and out of consciousness. I knew that this had to be a lucid dream, because I was now in a foreign country. The people were speaking French, but it did not look like France. I heard a ghostly voice speaking a very different language. IT WAS SOMEONE IN THEIR ASTRAL FORM TALKING TO ME! In my disbelief and confusion. I asked him who he was and WHERE I was. 'Shhogihsdoiihisfs' they said something like that. I was so confused. I then somehow materialized into this weird room with a bunch of weird looking creatures fighting. Something started talking to me. " You look dazed." It said, and then turned into a different shape. " Don't be scared, your guide is......" It said.
Everything went black except for me and the strange looking person , who kept taking on a different shape. Maniacal laughing. Weird, red creatures. Then , some 'weird red creature' started attacking me. I didn't feel pain of course, and I couldn't even make out what these awful things were. I began to throw punches and the 'guide person,' now a wolf, lunged at the ghoulish things and made them go away. "Th-" I said. He showed me a strange orb. "In it holds all wisdom and you've found it and and and and...." i could only make out some of what he said. I was confused, and I looked back at the orb and saw my room and me in my bed. I then appeared back in my room, disappointed and frightened. I saw the person in the corner of the room. " FEAR IS THE PINNACLE OF>..;......" Like a magnet I was drawn back to my body and shot straight back out and it became like I was being teased like a puppet.... it seemed like I was just in and out of my body over and over... scary...
What do you think that was? (At the end)
I've become conscious in my energy body standing upright at the foot of my bed, this is interesting.
As for the wolf, you may want to look into totem animals and see where that takes you. The voice explaining things to you, that's also interesting. My brother and I have experienced the same thing a few times. My brother's lecture was fear oriented while mine was in regards to how humanity has and continues to evolve mentally through perseverance.
The voice is always verbose in it's dialogue and clear in what it has to say. It's happened a few times to me.
I don't want to put you off in any way but I'll share something I read from a channel (forgive me for not providing a link). There're entities in between 4D + 5D whose main purpose is to spread false propaganda in an endeavour to inhibit human consciousness from "freeing" itself. Now, this may be complete crap but I'd advise you to use your own discernment the next time it happens and not take everything at face value. You can ask for clarity and lots of support if you find yourself in that kind of situation again.
Congrats American !! :) I really don't know what it was, but for sure you are starting to experience what you was searching for ... AP :) Maybe you started by real aping and then it turned out into a Lucid Dream... I don't know ... hey, what about the number ? Did you check with your friend ?
Wow ... do you realize what a GIFT this all was? You get what you are, you get what you need. It's become obvious to me that the experiences people have when they project are so highly individualized that you just can't draw on the accounts of others very much to explain them. Think of all this in dream terminology - everything was metaphorical. You fear the exit / entry process, or you fear that you'll lose (or never really gain) the ability to do it. So that fear is addressed ... in you go, out you come, it's all child's play. It's all tailored to you. Develop what needs developing, let go of what needs letting go of. You don't get thrown into classrooms that you're not ready for. I would suggest that you stick with this, do what's important to you, and do it in the way you need to do it. Let it unfold, see where it goes. My opinion is, what an awesome compliment that you attracted this kind of guide / teacher!! All the little monsters ... those are issues, your issues, brought to life in the representative form you saw them in. When you're ready, you need to face them. YOU - not "him." The intervention of the wolf was a temporary stop-gap measure. You will face this again, when it's time. And again. And again. Until there's nothing left there that needs changing.
The ultimate end seems to be (my opinion) ... not "learn who you are," but rather "unlearn who you aren't." For example, somewhere down the line you might have attached a certain stigma to the concept of being able to project. This stigma is only some "foreign growth" that you attached to yourself. "Gosh, Beave, I don't know if I can do this...." And reality says "oh please, you have more trouble brushing your teeth than getting out of your body." That false belief, that stigma, comes to life over time, until, in your perception, it's as much a part of you as your teeth are. But it's a false belief that needs "unlearning." It isn't really you. You made it up. Imagine if you went through life believing you have 11 fingers. Say it ain't so! One day you wake up and realize ... oh, I really only have 10, that's just the way it is. Voila, reality strikes and the false belief is gone. It all inolved nothing more than a shift in perception.
It's really starting to appear that the entire astral realm, as we each experience it through our projections, is really just a massively expanded arena for turning dreams into interactive learning sessions. Or, at the very least, it CAN be that, and this "subset" is most of what we experience, for as long as we need that environment. If it's true, it gives a lot of validity to dreams in and of themselves, but this brings the entire experience a few hundred levels up the totem pole because it involves a) conscious choice, and b) live interaction. Much like the difference between watching a movie and playing a video game.
Quote from: magicmac2000Congrats American !! :) I really don't know what it was, but for sure you are starting to experience what you was searching for ... AP :) Maybe you started by real aping and then it turned out into a Lucid Dream... I don't know ... hey, what about the number ? Did you check with your friend ?
Yeah, the number was 4786 and when I checked with my friend it was right :)
QuoteI laid down on my bed and I didn't even think about OBEing. I was really thirsty, but too lazy to roll over to the other side of the bed and take a sip of water from the nightstand. I kept thinking about moving over there to drink from it,
That is exactly what it takes. That kind of determination, drive, single minded thinking. And the next thing you know you are up and out doing exactly what you were thinking about. :D
One of my first memorable experiences was when I was thinking about having to get up to take one of my children to the Dr. one morning. After hitting the alarm a couple times, I found myself in my bathroom trying to fix my hair and realized that my face didn't look quite right.. I looked over just like you and saw my body in bed. :) That was the first of many RTZ experiences for me.
So, in my opinion it sounds like you were in the RTZ. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17476
Way to go! :D
Nay
"FEAR IS THE PINNACLE OF IGNORANCE" or something like that :wink:
Quote from: AmericanIdiotQuote from: magicmac2000Congrats American !! :) I really don't know what it was, but for sure you are starting to experience what you was searching for ... AP :) Maybe you started by real aping and then it turned out into a Lucid Dream... I don't know ... hey, what about the number ? Did you check with your friend ?
Yeah, the number was 4786 and when I checked with my friend it was right :)
American, are you sure you didn't know the number ? The experiment that you did is incredible !!!
Quote from: AmericanIdiotOkay, I AP'ed again! It was a SOBE though.. (...)
Hi AmericanI, that's a great AP experience. I don't know if you have realized, but the probability of you guessing by chance those numbers is this one:
6.- Variant of "cipher of the 4 random numbers" (from 0 to 9). Example: 4179
Probability of guessing on time:
1.e-4, and that's the same as
0.0001 (
3 zeros after the decimal point).
How difficult is that as compared to other types of numbers? You may see it in Table 1 of the Agnostic Method:
See Post #3 and #4. Instructions of the Agnostic Method and Table 1:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20907&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
Well, let me present myself: My nick is qbeac, I am a Spanish scientist who is doing research about OBE. What you have done, reading those 4 numbers, is very important. I encourage you to try other different types of numbers which have a higher probabilistic reliability, such as reading two or three words taken at random from a dictionary. What do you think? Do you think you could try that?
In the above link you will also see a lot more information about the experiments we are doing in a Spanish Science Forum named www.100cia.com
Chao. qbeac.
P.S. For those of you who do not speak Spanish, the phrase "100cia" is pronounced in Spanish as see-EN-see-ah, which is the Spanish word for "science."