Do you think governments have looked into preventing astral travel espionage?

[Alex-Anderson]

What I find fascinating is that if this is true (governments aware of AP,RV as a possible tool for espionage) then they would have had to look at that the probability and threat based on an average end users ability to have projections, average end users  progression and development ,those that are professionally trained, and what laws and physics govern how it can be used as a tool for intelligence gathering.

But as the field is so diverse and challenging counter measures must be made on so many assumptions that it's hard to assume that something does exist around a set of processes that can be damaging unless we agree that there are laws and physics governing what one can do and the limits to how a projection can be utilised - Unless counter measures have been influenced by outside forces or helpers.

Either way a forum site like Astral Pulse would be an excellent source for any intelligence analyst to gauge the aptitude of the average end user.

For me this whole field/subject is like an open mic night with no amplification but perhaps too much noise.  So I think I still need more convincing that something could exist that could separate the signal from the noise.

[sublimy99]

Ok, so lets for one second say there is no astral containment or
precautions by the Government. You go into one of these places,
Area 51, the White House, or an underground alien base. What now?
What if you went to Area 51 and saw alien bodies. First you'd have to discern
if what you saw was real. Now, try coming on this board, or anywhere,
for that matter, and tell people. Your only proof is your word.
Maybe, just maybe some people on this board would believe you.

People talk about "alien bases" all the time, no one gets killed. I even
saw a show about it on the History channel. Did I believe every word?
No. I took it with a grain of salt and moved on. Same with alien bases on
the moon, you go there through AP , come back and tell people and most
will not believe you. Even abductees come back with full recall lately.
The aliens know only other abductees and some "kooks" like us..will believe them.

[CFTraveler]

Ok, so lets for one second say there is no astral containment or
precautions by the Government. You go into one of these places,
Area 51, the White House, or an underground alien base. What now?
What if you went to Area 51 and saw alien bodies. First you'd have to discern
if what you saw was real. Now, try coming on this board, or anywhere,
for that matter, and tell people. Your only proof is your word.
Maybe, just maybe some people on this board would believe you.

People talk about "alien bases" all the time, no one gets killed. I even
saw a show about it on the History channel. Did I believe every word?
No. I took it with a grain of salt and moved on. Same with alien bases on
the moon, you go there through AP , come back and tell people and most
will not believe you. Even abductees come back with full recall lately.
The aliens know only other abductees and some "kooks" like us..will believe them.

I agree for the most part.
Plus, when I have visited such places, I don't remember half of what I saw, or what I learned.  So there is no way to ascertain the objective reality of anything that is seen in such visits.

[Psilibus]

I'm my own guru. I kick my own butt everyday. 

Were talking about soul stealing here? Or what??? 

Gut instinct will tell you where to go and not go. I generally know what I should and should not be doing/going both in AP and here in the plain old physical. 

Stupid question here but, why all the interest in aliens? Only had one experience I can recall about aliens and they were a bunch of bullies. I wasn't impressed at all. These sound like lower vibrational experiences to me. Kind of a waste of time isn't it? It all gets better the higher you go, love, light and eternal wisdom free for the learning and sharing. 

I want to see aliens in the physical, you know, shake their hand (er flipper or ?). Wish someone would provide something truly tangible, incontrovertible and objective. Imagine the world wide gasp. 

[Alex-Anderson]

I'm typing this on my iPhone as a quick response so excuse any grammar but in response to your comment Psilibus...

It's not just the alien agenda, but anything caught within the paranormal field, has and always will stimulate much interest and of course speculation. For the most part the recent raised interest (last few decades) is probably down to disillusionment with our modern day society leading us to question and explore (including Hollywood who cashes in on this).

On the other hand all the paranormal awareness that is pushed via outlets such as films, TV, books, and the internet raises the public's awareness on the subject providing a good source for self discovery – i.e.: I would see this as a positive trend to something that could be viewed as dissatisfaction with our mainstream beliefs and practices.
 

[Psilibus]

Seriously. I want to meet an alien in the flesh. Not trans-dimensionally or during OBE or whatever. I THINK I've seen UFO's before but how would I really know. There certainly is so much going on the majority of us no nothing about. What worries me is when people begin talking as if they are a particular authority. They preface with "in my opinion" or "what I think is". This verges on disinformation.

I agree that raising the public's awareness IS a positive trend that should be encouraged. That is why I post here now instead of lurking. I sometimes feel I could be seen as a troll but at least I believe everything I say... 

"Disillusionment with our modern day society"? During what time in human history has there NOT been "disillusionment with our modern day society." Really, aliens gonna take us over, etc.? Why the heck did they wait until we developed WMD's and such. Just for the sake of discussion.

Government containment rooms for astral projectors? Good Lord. Maybe? I dunno. Sounds like a spiritual conspiracy. Never found anything I couldn't pass through if I wanted. It would be scary to be stuck in something other than my own flesh

I wasn't downplaying the whole alien thing. It does sound awfully "Hollywood" though.