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iscott

Whenever I go into sleep paralysis (and it is very often), I know that I only have a certain amount of time to concentrate before I can even attempt to project. I feel like I have very little time because if  I wait too long then the black cloaked figure comes and stands in my room. He has never been threatening, I believe I even communicated with him once before. However his appearance is very unnerving and usually makes me bail out of my sp. Eventually he always shows up. When I realize that im in sp mode I can feel a negative presence closing in on my location. Like some how he senses that my mind has become conscious outside of my physical self and he drops whatever he is doing to come and watch me.

one time I was on my couch and I said "why are you doing this"
And he said "I'm not a guy". It was telepathic.

Sometimes there is another dark figure however he is a lot thinner and always waves his arms and gets in my face, once they were both present and the cloaked one just stared on.

So how should I address this entity? Could he be my guide? He looks like a guy, but he says he's not?
I walk in shadow between worlds

Lionheart

 Explain to him that he is scary to you and ask if he could change his appearance. Either that or make a mental command for "light". He could actually be a guide and your eyes aren't used to the Astral yet. You could also command "Clarity Now".

iscott

Quote from: Lionheart on August 10, 2011, 01:32:33
Explain to him that he is scary to you and ask if he could change his appearance. Either that or make a mental command for "light". He could actually be a guide and your eyes aren't used to the Astral yet. You could also command "Clarity Now".

I will try that thanks. Maybe I can ask the entity to protect me from other beings that disturb my concentration. I just don't think he will be quick to aid me. Seems like he has a very apathetic additude.
I walk in shadow between worlds

Xanth

Quote from: iscott on August 10, 2011, 01:20:34
Whenever I go into sleep paralysis (and it is very often), I know that I only have a certain amount of time to concentrate before I can even attempt to project. I feel like I have very little time because if  I wait too long then the black cloaked figure comes and stands in my room. He has never been threatening, I believe I even communicated with him once before. However his appearance is very unnerving and usually makes me bail out of my sp. Eventually he always shows up. When I realize that im in sp mode I can feel a negative presence closing in on my location. Like some how he senses that my mind has become conscious outside of my physical self and he drops whatever he is doing to come and watch me.

one time I was on my couch and I said "why are you doing this"
And he said "I'm not a guy". It was telepathic.

Sometimes there is another dark figure however he is a lot thinner and always waves his arms and gets in my face, once they were both present and the cloaked one just stared on.

So how should I address this entity? Could he be my guide? He looks like a guy, but he says he's not?
The way I see it, you're creating this "black cloaked figure" via your beliefs.
It's nothing but a manifestation of the part I bolded.  Lose the belief, lose the cloaked dude.  :)

bluremi

Sounds like he's waiting for you to leave your body so he can take over.





I'm just kidding, I agree with Ryan.

Szaxx

Hi,
Sometimes you need help and you can't get the answer from anyone. Your mind can create a diversion in ANY form so you get your answer from yourself. This character is no guy because you have created it. Use it, its a way for you to get an answer to something. It may be your fears in the 3D space are strong and until you quieten your mind in there this character will protect you from harm. Ask him 'what is your intent'. You may get the answer ' to serve you' or similar. If its bad this question will send him on and you may see him simply disappear.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

mels8780

Quote from: Ryan_ on August 10, 2011, 08:43:15
The way I see it, you're creating this "black cloaked figure" via your beliefs.
It's nothing but a manifestation of the part I bolded.  Lose the belief, lose the cloaked dude.  :)

How come you always say this ? Isn't it possible another entity was with him in the room, or that another person was with *anybody* anywhere that wasn't manifested? I read it over and over and it doesn't seem he in the first place expected some random guy who is not really a guy to be there. Isn't it totally possible he just keeps coming ?

Oh, I forgot my Not An Attack tag. Just in case. This isnt an attack on anyone or anything.

Xanth

Quote from: mels8780 on August 17, 2011, 12:30:46
How come you always say this ? Isn't it possible another entity was with him in the room, or that another person was with *anybody* anywhere that wasn't manifested? I read it over and over and it doesn't seem he in the first place expected some random guy who is not really a guy to be there. Isn't it totally possible he just keeps coming ?

Oh, I forgot my Not An Attack tag. Just in case. This isnt an attack on anyone or anything.
Sure, it's possible.
I just think that from the information provided that this isn't the case.  :)

The main culprit here is this sentence: "I feel like I have very little time because if  I wait too long then the black cloaked figure comes and stands in my room."
That's the trigger phrase right there that makes me think that this is NOT some other entity, but just a manifestation of his own beliefs.

teddybear

@iscot

I do not think it's a projection. I think it is someone there with you. There are lots of different entities around. The question is, exactly as you put it, who is he, and why is he there? I think the advice you got on keep on asking him, is a good one. But, if he scares you it's a fair chance he's up to no good. So...fill yourself with love...preferable also make a bubble of love around you (also check up on other shielding techniques and how to fight if you need to)...then...you can try send him love, even fill him up with love, and see how he reacts...

pondini

#9
from frank's posts:

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The images you create are created from your emotions. Your emotions are primarily determined by your thoughts. The emotion of Fear is a very common emotion to have on the Astral. This is because much of what you see will be SO different from what you see on the physical. But don't get me wrong, I have come across Astral regions where what I was seeing was completely and utterly earth-like. As I say, the sense of consciousness you have with you on the Astral is exactly the same as the sense of consciousness you have with you on the Physical.

Okay, so imagine you went for a country walk on the Physical. You estimated the time wrongly and the light is fading. Before you know it you are making your way through woodland in the dark. But it's a familiar path and there isn't all that far to go. It's a full moon, the sky is clear, giving just enough light for you to see by. Suddenly you hear the snap of a twig. "Was that me?" you ask yourself, and stand still wondering. Then you hear a rustle of leaves. Perhaps an animal is stalking you? So you stand rigid, slightly fearful, listening intently. Next moment you laugh and think, "No, it's just me being silly!" and carry on walking. You get home safely and forget the whole thing.

Now imagine that exact same scene, but it's all happening in the Astral. Which is perfectly possible. For in the Astral, while there are all kinds of weird and wonderful places, you can engage in basic activities as well. Such as, go for country walks, climb rocks, swim rivers, stand by the ocean, etc. However, difference being, on the Astral, the very moment you felt that mild emotion of fear... some image, or other circumstance, would have come about in order to justify that same level of fear.

Please note: From my experience, it makes no difference to think whether you attracted the image, or whether you created it. It's just a different way of looking at the same thing.

If you were mildly fearful, then you would instantly have a mildly fearful experience. However, mild levels of emotion often lead to an Astral buffer-experience. Here you will find the circumstance that came about from your emotion, becomes entwined with the existing Astral scenery. The reason why the intensity is precisely matched to the intensity of your emotion, is simply because it is your emotion that is fuelling it. In the same sense, if you set light to a thimble full of gasoline, you get a tiny whoosh of flame. Set light to a 50 gallon drum... and you have a major fire on your hands. What usually follows, is your sense of conscious awareness - upon being met by the mildly fearful experience - panics and immediately says to you: "RUN LIKE HELL... GET OUT OF
HERE".

You had a little flame, and rather than let it burn out of its own accord, you just used it to set light to 50 gallons of gas. An instant before, you were enjoying a quiet Astral stroll. Now you are surrounded by evil monsters. There's no escape. The leader has fangs the height of a house, and they are just inches away from crushing your face. Next instant you are back in the physical, shaking and sweating. Immediately you get up and start touching all the furniture and walls, double-checking that you truly are back.

Big problem is, many people get locked into having these experiences. What they fail to fathom is that they, themselves, are creating the whole episode. The experiences *are* very real and it is only natural for them to think they are being picked-on by demons, and such like.
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Szaxx

Hey, brilliant way of describing the true effects out there. I learned in my early days to lucid dream creating a powerful nightmare situation. Then stay there and fight it off until resolved. You don't forget what you've learned and this gives you control.  If any situation presents itself, you'll know how
to 'correct' it.
You create your own surroundings and therefore in this self made 'bubble' YOU are the master.
Too much to handle, you can always snap back and wake up.
Happy travels.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

See, that's why I've always loved reading Franks posts... he had a certain way of explaining things that were just so easy to understand.

Thank you Pondini for re-posting that, as that was my point perfectly!  :)

Quote from: Szaxx on August 19, 2011, 16:30:18
Hey, brilliant way of describing the true effects out there. I learned in my early days to lucid dream creating a powerful nightmare situation. Then stay there and fight it off until resolved. You don't forget what you've learned and this gives you control.  If any situation presents itself, you'll know how
to 'correct' it.
You create your own surroundings and therefore in this self made 'bubble' YOU are the master.
Too much to handle, you can always snap back and wake up.
Happy travels.
I've stopped having nightmares.  I haven't had a nightmare in many years now.

pondini

Quote from: Ryan_ on August 19, 2011, 18:05:16
See, that's why I've always loved reading Franks posts... he had a certain way of explaining things that were just so easy to understand.

Thank you Pondini for re-posting that, as that was my point perfectly!  :)

yeah, frank had a very elegant, yet simple way of explaining things. thanks again for compiling frank's posts, ryan. without that PDF many of us probably would never have discovered frank's writings, myself included:)