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[Logic]

You have to realize that its something that cant be taught, and you can only learn it yourself. Do you meditate?

[T_Kman0610]

yes, nothing has really came thru, only vibes and floaty ness, but no projection[]

[Logic]

Breathing exercises help a lot, energy raising, mantras, etc.. or you could try oils or inscense.

The thing is, you are projecting at some point in the night, but probably right when you do, you lose consciousness. So, it might just seem like your not projecting at all, which is ofcourse, why meditation is so important.

[T_Kman0610]

thanks for the help logic, nice to meet you.

[Logic]

No problem. Good luck with your journies.

[BOATS]

I think what Logic said about meditating will help in time.  I think the reason I have some success at OBE is I have been running for 25 years and go into a zone like state of meditation during running.  So it's as if I have been daily meditating for along time.  I have also spent lot of time in the military trying to stay awake while exhausted to the point of falling asleep standing up.  I would suggest you read some of my posts.  What has really worked for me is meditating in a sitting position in complete silence and letting my mind stay blank for perhaps 1 hour.  Then lying on my back and listening to Katara or new age music as I fall asleep.  This technique actually was so effective it raised my Kundalini energy so much I had to back off AP for several months.  Read some info on raising Kundalini.  One other thing I would suggest is getting a recliner chair and try falling asleep in a position you would be in during a dental visit.  Good Luck.

[T_Kman0610]

yes the title is simply to understand because i have tried everything right now. Last night i did the relaxation,then i visualized myself floating out of my body. before and while attempting projection, i asked for it to come to me from god. I also did the rope technique. I tried willing myself out. i did the relaxation multiple times. can someone please help me! im desperated to astral project! ive been buying books on it and everything and still no results. The books i baught are astral dynamics, and astral travel by bezelbub. can someone help me?[?]

thankx! chris