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Nobody believes me when I tell them I've died in my dreams, they say that if I died in my dream, then I should have died in real life.
I also maybe died a few times in my dreams. That's weird that that many people would believe that to die in a dream = to die in reality... Personaly, I can't find one single person who would think that among my friends. I guess your friends watched Matrix too many times... [;)]
The people who say you really die if you die in a dream are probably the same people who say walking under a ladder causes "bad luck".
Cool topic!
It could be that you are remembering some past lives. I have died several times in dreams. I found myself in the dark void that you mentioned, right after dying. The difference for me, I actually float out of the body, then find myself in the dark void and I feel a certain peace that comes over me, while in the void.
Do you remember how you died in those dreams? Where you aware of who you were and the people around you?
For instance, in one of my dreams I was a young boy around the age of eight, definitely felt like in Egypt. I was goofing around a dig area, like a tunnel of some sorts. I knew while I was doing this I shouldn't have been. Well...it caved in on me! [:O] The wall of sand stopped before covering me up completely.
I was somewhat calm when this happened but knew if I turned around and saw the sand blocking my path I was going to freak! I then found myself outside of my body above the site. There were two men, and I knew one was my father..I don't know about the other one. They were digging frantically and finally got to my body, and when they pulled me out, my body was limp and my lips were blue. My father was crying, I knew then I was dead and then I found myself in the dark void with a sense of peace around me, then I woke up.
I had that dream years ago, but to this day it is as vivid in my mind as it was the first day I had it.
In this life I have a bit of claustrophobia and a BIG fear of suffocating, I think we keep some fears due to past lives.
Nay [;)]
I had a death dream not to long ago, about a month I guess anyway I had a short discussion about it on my site with a friend.
Here is what I wrote on the dream:
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Originally posted by Links Shadow
Last night I had my first 1st person dream. It was by no means the happiest dream I have ever had. It was a wierd dream to say the least but it was pretty scary at the same time. This was most likely due to the fact that I was watching tv shows on the "Discovery Channel" and the "Travel Channel" about ghosts just before falling asleep and I had that kind of mentality. Anyway the dream started out with me and some friends playing video games in an electronics store and we were there for several hours playing against each other at which time the manager of the store got angry with us and kicked us out of the store. After that we all went our own ways and I went back to my house (which was a 2 story house that I have never actually lived in). When there I went up stairs and walked out on a balcony looking at a beautiful sunset. I stood there watching the sunset and just as the last bit of the sun was below the horizon and the clouds turned from oranges and pinks to the dark blues of the night sky. Just as that happened I felt a presence walking up behind me. Then it spoke but I don't remember what it said and then...
WARNING THE NEXT PART IS KIND OF GRUESOME
I felt a sharp prick on the back of my neck right at the top of my spine and the base of my neck, there is a bone that bulges out a little bit which is right where I felt it. Right after I felt the prick that is when the pain really started some kind of daggar was plunged straight through my neck, and I was pushed off the balcony. I did a flip and rotated to the point where I landed flat on my back driving the daggar in a little further. I could feel my my body below where the daggar was which would have been impossible considering that my spine was severed. I was in so much pain that I could not move and just lied there in that spot and bled to death. I never saw who it was that had done this to me and I did not know the voice either.
Then comes the part that was really scary my alarm woke me up and I tried to get up and walk across the room to shut it off but my body was paralysed and I still felt like the daggar was still in my neck. I was still in the same amount of pain that I was experiencing in the dream and this continued for about 5-10 minutes I would guess because I did not have my glasses on and therefore could not see the clock. But even know 3 hours later my neck every once in a while gets the sharp pain like in the dream.
Heck of a way to start with first person dreams, with me dying, if I do say so myself. Interesting how I start off doing something I love playing video games and watching a sunset and then the drastic shift in mood. But I do think it is interesting that right as the sunsets my life comes to an end. I love the symbolism.[xx(]
In the discussion it was brought up that death dreams are a way of showing that you are changing. One way of life is dying and another one will begin soon. When you have one you are breaking free of ways and casting them aside. Based on all the details that I have not shared this seems to be the case that death dreams symbolise change.
Respectfully,
Link's Shadow
The first person that called me a liar was a philosophy instructor, with his masters degree. The second person was a very psychic woman who also had her PhD. in psychology, then there's my mother in law and a couple loser friends who are very afraid of death.
At any rate, let me go into more death. I mean depth. (ha ha)
During the last couple years I've been working on remembering my past lives. I've reached a point where I can go back no further (at least not yet) because I didn't exist until that point. That's right, I remember my original birth. If you haven't gone back that far yet you ought to because it's unlike any other memories you have, though I'm not going to spill the beans about it yet, in case some of you guys do it.
Anyways, the void in my dreams reminds me of a place I was during my "birth."
There are always different people around me, sometimes none, sometimes many, sometimes my family and friends, sometimes no one I know.
I've died from gunshot wounds, once instantly from a shot to the forehead and once from bleeding to death slowly. I've drowned, and been in other accidents, but mostly I die in some sort of struggle.
I'm not afraid of dying, apparently, since I've never been scared of dying in any of my dreams.
I agree that we carry over trauma/fear from our past lives into our current ones, but in general I've overcome mine by remembering the events. I still carry some anger from some unresolved events, though.
It is difficult to say what a "death dream" means or is pointing to. There are several possabilities. A good suggestion was the one made earlier about it maybe being past life deaths you are seeing. However I have run across another set of interesting possabilities.
The one I liked the most is that it is a symbolic dream about the ending of a phase in your life. Growing and moving on from one way of life into another. Or a major change in the way one thinks. The only way to really know is to seriously look at the various elements of the dream and compair them with the current situation your life is in. But when doing this you have to try to stick to what you absolutely know. If you have any doubts about how something relates from dream to reality then you should put it aside until you can confirm it. This way you don't fool yourself into believing that apples and oranges are the same thing.
Of course that pretty much holds true for any dream work a person does. I believe that it was Mark Twain that said, "Some times a cigar is just a cigar."
Me personally I can not recall if I have ever actually died in a dream or not. I know that I have had several intense dreams where I have received massive trauma, stuff that should have killed me. But I never seem to die, I just keep going. Some times its really painful while other times its just seems more annoying and there is no feeling to it. I have noticed a couple of time I will lay there for a minute or two thinking that "whatever" should have killed me so I must be dead. But then it dawns on me that I am thinking and usually stand back up and the dream continues while in the mean time I am missing a leg, arm, or some such.
I dream my own death loads of times. I'm used to it by now.
Examples of my death dreams:
Death by Giant spider
I was walking home, when this giant spider appears, in the middle of the road, out of nowhere. I run home, to find the doors and windows locked. My brother leans out of one and shouts something that I didn't hear. The spider picked me up with one of its legs, and ate me.
Death by angry mob+elastic band
Once again, I was walking home. An angry mob came up from down the road, and started to chase me. I ran away, and I thought I had lost them. Unfortuantly, I wasn't looking where I was going, and ran into a giant elastic band streched between two buildings. It snapped back, catapulting me into another building. Squish.
Death by bus station
I walked into a bus station while walking home (I have a very limited subconsious), when my best friend walked in. It turned into this sealed box thingy, and a bomb dropped through the ceiling. It exploded, sending me and my friend into the air. He hit the ground, and then I woke up just before my death.
All of my experiences with death are like Cainam's, no matter what happens I just keep going, maybe I just don't give up, I dont know. But, I've been shot many times in the chest in dreams, and I just keep running.
Perhaps these are just real life anxieties playing themselves out in violent fashion in dreams.
Thanks fellas, I really appreciate the feedback.
I don't want to complicate things, but lately I've been dreaming about being in the dark black 3D void, and skipping the whole death experience. I haven't had a death dream in almost a year and that's unusual.
The difference between the dark place I go when I sleep and the dark place I go when I meditate is the feeling.
In my dreams it feels vacant, empty, not lonely, but there's nobody there, not even me (ooh...creepy). It feels like life is over for everybody, forever. That's the only way I can explain it.
Now I'm even more confused.
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Originally posted by Nay
Cool topic!
It could be that you are remembering some past lives. I have died several times in dreams. Do you remember how you died in those dreams? Where you aware of who you were and the people around you?
For instance, in one of my dreams I was a young boy around the age of eight, definitely felt like in Egypt.
I had an Egyptian life, I raised lions for the royalty.
Another life was in Greece.
I vaugly recall drowning and being thrown from a balcony.
birth/death same door different destinations[8D]
Xander
Hey Coffee and all.
I too have died in a dream which i described in a previous post. I would think alot of the people who say you die in real life after dying in a dream have also died in dreams, just there dream recall isnt good enough for them to remember.
Firetoice lol, if your not already i suggest you begin practicing lucid dreaming because the sooner you learn to teleport to you house in dreams the better. :P
Hi Coffee.
I was told by one shrink that dying in a dream was a sign of mental disturbance, subconscious contents, or a sign I had too much stress in my life. :)
I've died in every way you could think of in dreams. I've been shot, stabbed, hung, tortured, eaten, fallen, and otherwise splatted.
Psychics tell me my empathy is too high, and my spiritual teachers are always sensative of it, which is cool.
Out of curiosity once, I described what being shot was like to a friend of mine who was in viet nam. He said "yeah, that's what its like. You got a good shrink right?" :) He's known me for years, and he knew I'd never been shot.
So I'm thinking that dying in dreams can also having something to do with having high empathy for living things.
any other thoughts?
Lapis
Who's had dreams last for years in just one night
My experiences with the black void haven't been so pleasant.
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Saturday.... had this dream that I can't remember very well, I was talking to a man about dreaming, and about pot, and he said something akin to "Do you know what happens when you wake up?" and he was talking about waking up a lot, and then he asked me again, and I realized that if I woke up, I was going to cease to exist.....
and then BOOM there is just nothingness, all that is there is my mind, but I can feel it rapidly decaying.... I'm screaming this distorted fuzzy internal scream like I've never heard before... crazy excrement... and that scream remains in my head well upon waking up, and then slowly fades away.
to elaborate on that.... I felt like I was really dying... I've had my fair share of nightmares and hypnagogic hallucinations and really weird things happen to me, but this really felt real.... the adrenaline rush... some intense vibrations, but not of the projecting variety (at least I think, I can't remember very well) and that scream..... eminating from within and echoing inside my entire being, body, and spirit.....
this is what I wrote a few days ago, I had the dream on 11-23 I believe.
I was reading a thread on some other forums I post on called "Dream Fantasy" and someone said something akin to "If you have a dream within a dream, doesn't that cancel the two out, making the dream not real?".... most of the posts were incoherent, which is to be expected from dream content... the last post in there I clearly remember saying "a! f*cking......." something something..... I have it written down.... but... what it said isn't important.....
Anyway, this dream I was in lasted a very long time and spanned many different scenes and scenarios and even involved perhaps a dream within a dream or two, as I did dream about sleeping.... at the end of it I was back at that thread, and to my recollectoin (in the dream that is) it said THE EXACT SAME THINGS as it said before, right down to the very last post... now... I was not lucid, but I wasn't quite normal dream stupid, and I realized that this shouldn't be.... the posts should have drastically changed given the nature of text within dreams.....
Well I read the last post, and it triggered a chaotic reaction within me much like the first one when that man said something to me.... I was on my side in my bed, vibrating fiercly, hearing electricity running back and forth through my head and feeling it go through my body.... in pulses.... during each pulse, I could see and hear, to an extent, but inbetween them I was in nothingness, but still had a sense of general existance.... my dad was there, and he was saying something like "please stop shaking" but.... it was broken up and fragmented due to the pulsated hearing going on..... I kind of thought maybe I was dying and EMTs were trying to revive me.... but I decided it would be acceptable to will myself out of this, so I did.... and everything was normal.... and I was like "hmm... that was interesting"
I wonder what would have happened if I didn't decide to "live" during that moment... I know it wasn't real... and I didn't really panic of freak out like I did the first time, but while I was in that brief state I kind of halfway felt it might have been real.... what if I had decided "no... i'll just stay like this...." ?
from my "I deseprately need/help/advice/suggestions" thread in the general OBE forum at the top.
Now...it's interesting to note that I am not "dying" per se in those dreams... rather I'm transitioning into nothingness while bypassing death.
I have dreamed about dying... generally I don't actually die, but a few times I have, and been a ghost, or woken up, or gone to heaven, etc....
Usually I'm scared... sometimes I'm not.
I had an evil looking woman tell me I needed to get over my issues with death in a lucid dream I had recently though, it was very strange.
I guess I fear death, I mean I don't know where I'm going to go or what's going to happen (no one does) and "everyone dies alone" and... well.. the pain...
But it's not a paranoia or phobia or anything like that.
Ive died in a dream, but only once in my life that I remember.
I was shot and slowly bled to death, i got very tired and couldnt keep my eyes open no matter how hard i tried , then nothing, then I awoke.
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Originally posted by Impunity
Ive died in a dream, but only once in my life that I remember.
I was shot and slowly bled to death, i got very tired and couldnt keep my eyes open no matter how hard i tried , then nothing, then I awoke.
I think one reason death is difficult is because part of us desires so much to continue in this incarnation even if it's a bad one.
There are parts of me that I hope carry into the next realm, and other parts that I hope to shed quickly and easily.
Xander
Has anyone killed themself in a dream. I know i have.
This dreams was viewed totally from my perspective, however i couldnt see my own body. I was walkin around a horrible, basement, which was dark. A dead body lay on the floor and two women cried over the body.
I knew my motivation in the dream was to find the killer. The women were so upset they were screaming directly at me. I wondered around from dull dark grey room, to dull dark grey room, until i entered a room with a mirror. I looked into the mirror and immediately knew that i was the killer. Sure enough in the mirror u could see a knive in my hand. Then a stabbed myself in the neck.
Bare in mind non of this was lucid. It was like i was merely an observer looking through a murderers eyes.
It's was very freaky, but kinda cool (In a weird way).
well death in dreams means nothing particularly bad. You just are ending one chapter of your life. It can mean the end of one thing and the beginning of another.
bUt in your case it rather seems the thing thats ending is being replaced by something sullen...a dark empty place.
I'm afraid it dosn't sound good.
i killed myself in a dream... i've cut my throat with a knife... and it happened in our new kitchen (when i dreamt it we had no idea that there will be new kitchen, this is really strange).. i've felt everything... slowly loosing my conciussenesa... damn.. can't write the word... but anyway i got so scared that i almost died of heart attack after i woke up... i'm scared of dying.. this dream somehow has told me that there's nothing after death and i belived it... now i can't shrug off this dream.. i think of it almost every day... but i do not intend to kill myslef :))) i'm to scared of dying.. i still have much to do :)
I don't believe in death. hehee
Death is as ficticious to me as Santa claus (Yep he aint real)
Am i stupid when i say i cant wait to see whats next, when the transformation occurs (Which society confuses as death). Im not suicidal or anything but i'm excited, i dont want people to mourn, i want them to celebrate, because for sure ill be above there heads whilst they mourn, sticking my fingers in my ears and blowing a nice big rasberry.
m0d0, lots of people would call us stupid, but I think they are wrong. I also think what comes after death is something to celebrate.
I know where your coming from and i agree to some extent but could you honestly celebrate if your best friend died?
Its selfish i know but the reason most people mourn is more for themselves, for the fact that they wont be able to see the person for the rest of their lives (at least their current life). After all its the ones left behind who suffer, not the deceased.
I died in my dream once, nothing happened. The dream just changed after a second. There was dream death and then nothing and another dream (complitly diferent dream-story line :)
But today I had a wierd experiance. I was in a libery and it was dark, I looked out the window and a monster apeared just on the other side of the window (like in a horror movie) At that point, just as the monster was about to attack I realized it was a dream and I destroyed the monster with one thought. Then the lucid dream eneded and I begane another dream.
I dont know why but I cant achive a full LD, I only have a few-moment ones.
Interesting subject. My daughter was very ill with leukemia.
She had two dreams where she died. This had never happened before.
She was 21, and she did pass almost 2 years ago... on Dec 21, 2001.
I don't know if the dreams were a way of letting her know that this was something that was going to happen, or to prepare her, but it really freaked her out.
Aras
Usually when a person is affraid of some thing they experience it a lot in dreams as a way of dealing with thier fears. It is often the same with people who "know" that they do not have much longer. I used to work in a hospital with primarily elderly patients. They often report having dreams were they die. Also a lot of times when a person becomes very ill they have a lot of dreams dealing with the various regrets in thier life.
It is a common thing. I look at it as a way the mind tries to put every thing at ease before death. Sorta giving a person the chance to deal with these things and clean the slate up a bit.
I can recall two dreams in which I died. First one was during the Gulf war. I also dreamt I was in a war and was hit by an explosive shell and died instantly. I knew I died and then shortly after I was reborn again, I was standing in the same place and everything was quiet, the war was over which gave me a great feeling of happiness.
In the second one, I died by being eaten by a shark. I was in the water and this big white came out of the water, I saw his mouth and then everything went black which was very scary because I could still think. I ask myself the question if this was the end and if this was being dead was like. After 10 seconds I woke up and never felt so happy to be awake again. Our mind can really play some dirty nasty tricks on us....
I have never been killed in my dreams but i have killed myself many
times. when i am in lucid dreaming i usually get into somekind of
obstruction with certain "beings" or "people". When i am in trouble
or in danger of being captured, i jump off a high height and hit the
ground and wake up (although the latest time this did not work)
I also have killed plenty o people and things in my dreams.
If any of you are a white male about 23-35 with light brown hair, or
an african woman with black hair who had a dream where in you were dressed as a cop and a young white male came to your cop car duriing
a struggle and shot your partner (the white male cop) dead, the shot you dead with three gunshots to the chest?
i'd like to know.
I also have this ongoing "story like" succsession of dreams or some-
times they come once in a while but the thing is that often the same
person and persons are in my dreams.
i also seem to have dreamed (when i was young) about a man or doctor
of some kind, who looked evil as a M.F. tried to stab me with a
syringe. 15 or so years later, my older brother has a dream with the
same guy in it trying to stab him with a needle.
i also have strange dreams about wolves, and shapeshifters.
any body have any comments/
I myself have been having a recurring dream lately. (in which I die) I dream that a hooded figure (a bit like the grim reaper) chases me around. The figure has claws on its left hand and... yeah, chases me around until I wake up or die. Lately though I've been realizing that they're dreams and been having fun with them. (like making guys with chainsaws strapped to their hands to get rid of her. (and yes I say her because the grim reaper-like thing is defenitly a her. dunno why, though)
DREAMS
Dreams are controlled by our subconscience mind. When you wake
up everything that happends to us throughout the whole day is stored
in our subconscience.
-something dramatic
-something great
-we see a funny or scary movie
all of this becomes a memory that we forget
durring sleep our subconscience creatively uses these forgotten memories to create new images that are based on our memories
if this didn't happend we wouldn't be able to sleep
the reason we dream scary dreams is because scary taughts have most
effect on us an our subconscience pics our unpleasant memory and
uses it in our dream
I have died many times in dreams. Never has it felt painful, scary or negativ in any way. Most of the time I had an accident: I drove with my car in a river, or fell from a cliff. I had dreams in which I died several times. One time I fell from a high building and every time after I died I found myself on top of the building again. When I die in dreams my conscious fades out slowly. Dying in dream being deadly is a fairy tale.
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"One time I fell from a high building and every time after I died I found myself on top of the building again."
When you fell from a building did you feel, like what you felt in
a rollacoaster, your body froze and you felt you were going to jump out of your flesh. If it was something similar to what I described,
you might be very sensative or psychicaly connected to spirits who have died and are trying to use you to communicate if their death was
undiscovered, or if they want to prove something.
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Originally posted by mustard
When you fell from a building did you feel, like what you felt in
a rollacoaster, your body froze and you felt you were going to jump out of your flesh. If it was something similar to what I described,
you might be very sensative or psychicaly connected to spirits who have died and are trying to use you to communicate if their death was
undiscovered, or if they want to prove something.
Hmm I can't remember exactly. Once I hit the ground, I felt like my body got smashed but I couldn't fell any pain. My body felt like a useless sleeve. Then my vision faded and I found myself ontop of the building again. Why do you think spirits are trying to communicate?
The reason I think spirits are trying to communicate with you is because similar thing happened to me. I dreamed of falling down
from buildings so much that it wasn't funny anymore. I usually
wake up before I hit the ground but now I just end up being in a
different place dying another way, getting hit by a car, people with
guns chasing me and I wouldn't die. I was aware that I was dreaming
because I was seeing things I newer saw before, I wanted to wake up,
but I couldn't. I tried to kill my self, but every time I would end up in a different place. I was scared, I couldn't wake up!My dad came
and woke me up because he needed some help to move the furniture in
the truck, we were moving. Every time I had these kind of dreams someone
woke me up. I newer woke up by myself. Anyways, it has been known that
spirits can communicate with the living in their sleep. Normally when
something communicates with you it's for a reason, unless it's a demon, then I woudld suggest you get a priest to bless your room.
Some spirits that passed on unjustly(murdured),want justice(who wouldn't)
and if you are sensative to dreams meaning you are actually aware that you are dreaming when you are in a dream like me, then they might use you to acomplish what they want.
this is JUST my >THEORY<
Are you aware that you are dreaming in your dreams?
I think death in a dream indicates a change in situation... or the death of a situation. I think it can also indicate your fears.
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Originally posted by mustard
Are you aware that you are dreaming in your dreams?
I'm seldom aware in my dreams, I would like to be more aware though! I wasn't aware in the "falling from the building" dream
Usually, when we can recognize ourselves in our dreams, we are in full
controll over them. I don't know how to expalain this, but every
time I was selfaware I could actually fly in my dreams. I would look
at characters and tell them you are not real, and they would look back
at me with disbelief like I was crazy or something. The weird
thing is I could land and takeoff any time I wanted. It wasn't
one of those dreams where you had no idea, or weren't in any controll
at all. It was like my own private place where I could do whatever
I wanted.
What usually works for me is, before I go to sleep I focus my self to remember that I'm in my bed, in my room, and it's very quiet.
Hopefully in my dream, like everyone else, I dream that I am somewhere
in some place I never saw before. If am somewhat selfaware I'll ask
my self how did I get here when I was in my bead. EURICA!!!
I realize it's a dream, and I begin to explore it.
To increse your chances, I would suggest that when you wake up(open your eyes) don't move, DON'T focus on anything except trying to remember your dream. If you start thinking about your day,
you will loose any memory of your dream, you wouldn't be able to recollect anything that happened. By doing this you'll
become closer to your subconscious taughts, and it might help you
to be more selfaware in your dreams.
so far this works for me
Hope it helps a little.
Thanks Mustard! I'll certainly try your technique. I do have Lucid dreams from time to time. My technique is that I tell myself: "tonight I'm gonna have a lucid dream" while falling asleep, I do only get about one LD per week though.
My main problem is, that I don't get full control once I'm lucid. For example if I'm trying to fly I feel like a astronaunt on the moon but I can't lift off completly. One other thing is, that often ilogical things happen, but I don't get it. I'm lucid but still not completly clear in my mind. For example: I can't remember what I wanted to do in the LD, or like last night: I attached a hidden card under my bed to verify if I'm actually out of my body or not. I had a lucid dream and decided to look for the card. But I walked to the stairs and looked at a card there, although I never attached a card there. And I didn't got it although I was lucid!
So do you have any tips how I can enhance my lucidity?
When we dream sometimes no matter what we see or how unusual it is
we just play along because its represented so real to us . In the afternoon start acting(ACTING in your mind)
like you don't believe in spirits, energy, controlling your dreams, and be very angry at it like it's nonsence, if you deeply believe in these things, your sudden change of attitude will have a deep effect
on your subconscience and it will stay inside there like a tool for inspiring your next dream. When you dream, and if this has any effect
you should immidiately become selfaware.(in your dream) Like I said if you deeply
believe in being able to controll your dream your heart will tell you
that you are in one.(it might not be a positive dream since this techique has depressing effect on you) but don't be afraid at all because fear is the only thing that can stop you from being in controll. Fear can consume and confuse us, but in our dreams it can't do anytinig.
Hope this helps!
So if I act like I don't believe in spirits, energy, controlling my dreams, and be very angry at it like it's nonsence and it then happens in the dream, then I become lucid cause I don't believe in it. Did I understood you right?
I don 't completly understand the following "Like I said if you deeply
believe in being able to controll your dream your heart will tell you
that you are in one"
Isn't that the opposite of the above( believing that, controlling is nonsense?) Or is that an other technique?
thanks Tom
Sorry for putting it that way, what I meant to say was that if you
try to fool your mind into believing something else that you secretly believe in, it might have an effect on you, subconsciencly makeing you dream about spirits and things you tried to fool yourself into being nonesence, therefore you become aware in your dream that you are dreaming about these things that you forced yourself to disbelieve and
realize that this is a dream(when you are dreaming) because we had this discussion so
you could remember that it is a dream.
"your heart will tell you that you are draming"
I meant sometimes we can feel from deep inside when something isn't
right in this case that we are draming because everything seems so unusual.
Hope you understood.
I think I got it. ; )
Great!!
Can you tell me if anything happened?
O.k I told myself several times during the day that there are no transcendental/supernatural things. I didn't really believed that it made a huge impact, mainly cause I couldn't really decide if I truely believe in ghosts and things like that or not (Would it for example also be possible to convince me , that there are no dogs and then use the same technique to dream of dogs and then become lucid??)Do you use this technique frequently? how many LD's do you have?
Anyway, the following night I had two lucid dreams! Although I didn't dream of ghosts or any thing supernatural, at least as far as I can remember. So I can't really tell if I did it right and if it worked, but since I has two LD I guess something went right. Unfortunately I can't remember my LD very well. But I remember that I looked at my hand, observing like it melted away, then I tried to remember what day of the week we have. First I came up with wednesday but I knew it wasn't right, so I pulled myself toghether and realize that it was Sunday. Then I didn't know what else to do, which I admit is pretty sad ; ) Any suggestions for my next LD?
So you tried to remember of what day was it, perfect!!! excellent!!!
this means you are on the right path. The next time try to remember that you controll everything. Your hand melted because you wanted it to melt(subconsciencly). One more thing you can do to enhance your lucidness, try to focuss yourself as as big powerful boss that fears nothing(or your idol, or a hero, I think of myself as link from zelda games, my favorite>zelda orcarina of time< this might give you confidence to feel in charge of your dream
something like from a freddy cruger movie, you remember the one when they try to kill him by playing their own game, using their own special powers in their dreams, super strenght,flying, and extreme martial arts. moving on
I have lucid dreams almost every night, except when am really tired
when I go to sleep, I wake up and it feels like a second passed after I went to sleep, I don't remember dreaming at all when I have an experience like that. It just feels like nothing happened at all, one
minute I remember trying to fall asleep and the next thing you know BOOM! it's morning, it happends so fast.
Don't forget to go over your dreams in the morning, when you wake up. That way you can
become closer to them, so it will be easier to remember them as you go on.
You'r going in the right direction! Controlling your dreams takes some time untill it stays in your head for good. cheap example(we lerned to
write words in school day after day so we can write them without anyone's help, soon we learn them so well that we don't need help
anymore they just stay in our head like memories in a vault that you
instantly pullout whenever you'r writting something they just come out
because you are use to writting them so much)you don't have to understand this Good luck!
Yeah I know Zelda ; ) I'll try to to get more in control. You know, my main problem is not to control my LD. I think thats something I'll figure out with practice, but what I really have trouble with is getting LD on a daily basis. Thats what I really aim for but I seem to be stucked in a blind alley.
I can't really decide which technique I should use. Shall I look for dreamsigns, or tell myself to have a LD while falling asleep or use a different technique. Often I try to combine techniques but then I seem to get confused. Usually I try to induce a LD with no sucess and then after about 5 days I finally have one followed again by a couple of days with no sucess. Thats pretty strenuous! Must be cool to have a LD almost every night. Did it take long for you to get to this stage, or are you a naturally gifted person?
BTW I write my dreams down more or less every day.
I use to have alot of sleep paralysis when I was young like 6 or 7.
My parents couldn't do anything to help me so I figure only I can help muself, I stopped telling my parents cause I didn't want them to worry they had enough problems as it was. It was then that I started to notice patterns in my dreams(nightmares not LD, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WAKE UP FROM A NIGHTMARE that you can remember everything in the terrifying dream, the pattern was, my nightmares continued when
I went to sleep, from same place with same characters, continueing
so I started to question the whole philosophy of fear in my dreams and I realized that I wasn't scared anymore so I started bringing fear into
my dream characters(witches, flying skeletons,vampires, demons, you name it)(no matter how frightening they looked like) and they actually responded, they turned out to be nothing but bullies,
act tough, really nothing,it was like they were feading from my fear, when my fear was gone they were nothing more near than a thaught which took forms in my dream so after haveing many experiences like this,
I became aware of every dream I would have, I can still recollect some of my nightmares or sleep paralysis episodes.
I was reading some deja vu stuff,but needed to register in order to respond.i lost where it was so ima just do this here....the past 5 or 6 months i have been having quite a bit of deja vu experiences and didnt think anything of them until today.I was in english and we just started to watch 'The Edge'...for those of you who havent seen it,there is a scene where a little red float plane encounters some birds in the air and it starts gettting all crashy,then they hit a mountain top causing the plane to fall into a lake(all except the pilot make it out of the water alive)...well,at least a month ago,i had a dream where i was in a taxi cab with 5 other people including the cab driver(i only remember seeing the cab driver,my brother and my gym teacher)and we were on some highway,then BAM,a turn comes outta no where,we flip over the little road side blockers,and start to fall from a mountain or something...at the bottom i saw a small lake thing,and it was like we were going to land right in it...in reality,odds are we would have missed it....then i woke up before we hit.the feeling i had when i was watching the part in the movie was....very creepy...although it was in a total different scenario,it seemed like i knew what was going to happen...ALSO..does any one know anything about telepathy?im kind of ...paranoid about some things and i want to find some stuff out...
You sound like you were emotionally affected by this movie, so it might have influenced you to dream about something similar.
You might wana go to "energy development" forum about "telepathy".
i had the dream before i watched the movie. . . ?
oh! Sorry then, don't recall haveing any experience like that.
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Originally posted by mustard
. Your hand melted because you wanted it to melt(subconsciencly).
How do you mean that. Alot of people report of their hands melting. It seems do be a good way to seperate OBE from LD. Why should I (Or for that matter most people) want my hand to melt? I'm facinated by that fact that hands seem to melt in dreams in most peoples LD. Yours don't then. Do you have any insight in that matter?
Thanks Tom
sorry for late reply[|)] Everything we see in our dreams are part of us, our emotions running freely that we can't controll but have influenced them to act by giviving them >our< actions as commands.
example-If you have that feeling in your dream like something bad is going to happend, that will infuence something bad to actually happend.
Sure I agree but that would more point in the direction that in some peoples dreams hands melt and in others not, cause they give different "subconscious" orders, wouldn't it? But in reality hands seem to melt almost in anybody dream. Isn't that strange? have you heard of Robert Bruces theorie about why hand melt in dreams? He thinks that the sunconscious can't accept seeing ones hand cause it somehow knows that our hand is not real, but our real body is in bed. Thats seems kind of strange to me. What about you? does your hand melt in dreams?
cheers Tom
Nope, I don't remember ever seeing my hands melt in my dreams.[8)]
but my theory on why does it happend>visualization
Maybe you don't have a good photographic memory of yourself, and you
cant visualize yourself(body, physical image) in your dreams, and
your subconscience dosent have any image to feed on, so your hands
start to melt, mainly I believe they(AND NOT your whole body>melted because you only saw your hands, but I asume that if you stared at your legs they or any other part of you would melt or dissapear.
Might help to practice visualization.[|)]
I'll certainly look at my feet next time to see what happens. Hopefully I don't pass a mirror since that would lead to a complete melting of myself [xx(]
luckily, my weird and constant death in dreams seems to have stopped. If it hadn't, it was only a matter of time until I changed my name to Squee.
unluckily, now I seem to be dreaming that I am Link from the zelda games.
Come to think of it, thats just as worrying.
Nobody believes me when I tell them I've died in my dreams, they say that if I died in my dream, then I should have died in real life.
I've dreamed of dying multiple times, it happens about every 6 months, and I don't know what it means.
I die a different way each time, and it's very final, very eternal. There's no emotion involved, it's neither bad nor good. It's the only type of dream I have (besides some lucid dreaming) where there's no emotion.
At the end of the dreams I always end up in this dark place where there's nothing. I never wake up right after, I never jump right into another dream.
If anybody can clarify this for me, or offer interesting ideas, I will aprreciate it.