Inducing a lucid dream or AP from a subliminal recording while sleeping

[kuurt]

When I was looking into hypnosis and subliminal messages a while back, I noticed that people seem to be split on the topic of whether or not subliminal messages are effective while you're sleeping.  Some people say that's the best time do it.  That's what worked the best for them and they swear by it.  Other say it doesn't work at all while you're sleeping.  That confused me.  Well, today it occurred to me that maybe it depends on what stage of sleep you're in when the subliminal recording is playing.  Maybe it works better when you're in REM. 

Then I thought that maybe that could be a good way to easily trigger a lucid dream or AP.  Or maybe even a sexual dream. 

So, here is what I was thinking.  You record some kind of relaxing sound that you can fall asleep to.  For me it would be the sound of a box fan because that's what helps me sleep.  The recording would play for a few hours.  But, since there's no way of knowing when you will be in the REM or dream phase of sleep you would just have to repeat your subliminal or hypnotic suggestion every so often.  Maybe every 45 minutes or so the background sound can drop down just a bit and you slip in the message in a soft relaxed voice.  Hoping that at some point in the night the message will go out while you're dreaming and be heard by the dreaming you. 

The message can be a simple as "Is this a dream?" or "Am I dreaming?".  Or you could make it a lot longer than that.  You could attempt to influence or take control of the dream with the recording - suggesting what's going to happen next.  Guiding the dream from the outside. 

What do you think?

[Szaxx]

Try it and let us know.
In the 70's this idea was used by a few friends and I learning another language. We had 6 months from the start to the exam. A couple of us could speak the language fluently after doing this same thing you suggest with an audio tape playing at night.

[kuurt]

Really, that's an interesting idea.  Can the subconscious learn and retain things while you're asleep with no effort on your part?  I've heard that Edgar Cayce was able to sleep on a book and wake up knowing everything in it, although that's a little different.  I'm curious how it would influence your sleep and dreams though.  When you did that, did you find yourself learning in your dreams?  Because I would think you'd wake up feeling like you didn't get any rest - that would suck.   

[Volgerle]

I've tried this very often. I used my own recordings and also pre-recorded commercial audios.

No good success, but that is just my experience, yours may vary. Give it a try.