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Title: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: firefox on April 25, 2014, 13:46:06
i write down my dreams for a month  then i do not do it for abit then i notice things out of place, or things happenings in my dreams thats how it works for me.
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: Volgerle on April 25, 2014, 19:30:35
Quote from: firefox on April 25, 2014, 13:46:06
i write down my dreams for a month  then i do not do it for abit then i notice things out of place, or things happenings in my dreams thats how it works for me.
Why should one stop? Actually best would be to do it every time after waking up and never stop it. The more you 'work' with all of your dream memories later on, the more you will benefit from your dream life while you do it. It does not have to mean that you get lucid more often, but recall is certainly an issue.

Also the content changes when your subconscious "knows" that you take your dreams seriously and you get important messages and educational stuff. You also enhance your opportunity to get precognitive and clairvoyant dreams which happens a lot. If you record your stuff then you can later on prove to yourself how accurate it came into being. It is an amazing journey. I had dreams where sth happened later on EXACTLY how I dreamt it. It's amazing. When I read this later on it always makes me happy that I took notes on these dreams. Every dream is important, even if you do not understand them. Maybe sometimes we understand them later on. So in short: it's worth recording EVERY dream EVERY TIME.
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: Lionheart on April 25, 2014, 19:33:23
Quote from: Volgerle on April 25, 2014, 19:30:35
Why should one stop? Actually best would be to do it every time after waking up and never stop it. The more you 'work' with all of your dream memories later on, the more you will benefit from your dream life while you do it. It does not have to mean that you get lucid more often, but recall is certainly an issue.

Also the content changes when your subconscious "knows" that you take your dreams seriously and you get important messages and educational stuff. You also enhance your opportunity to get precognitive and clairvoyant dreams which happens a lot. If you record your stuff then you can later on prove to yourself how accurate it came into being. It is an amazing journey. I had dreams where sth happened later on EXACTLY how I dreamt it. It's amazing. When I read this later on it always makes me happy that I took notes on these dreams. Every dream is important, even if you do not understand them. Maybe sometimes we understand them later on. So in short: it's worth recording EVERY dream EVERY TIME.
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Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: firefox on April 25, 2014, 23:42:14
thanks this is way im becoming lucid at the moment is when i donte write down my dreams,i do rember them when i do write them down but im not lucid it seems im onley realy lucid when im not writing my dreams down.





Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: Lionheart on April 25, 2014, 23:53:27
Quote from: firefox on April 25, 2014, 23:42:14
thanks this is way im becoming lucid at the moment is when i donte write down my dreams,i do rember them when i do write them down but im not lucid it seems im onley realy lucid when im not writing my dreams down.
Like they say, "if somethings not broken, don't fix it".

Keep doing what you are doing. It sounds like it's working for you!  :-)

Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: kuurt on April 28, 2014, 19:07:17
Why is every dream important?  I would go back to keeping a dream journal if I believed that, but it just hasn't been my experience.  I didn't seem to get anything out of the vast majority of my dreams when I was keeping a dream journal.  Which is why I eventually quite writing them down. 

When I was recording them everyday, I found that I started remembering five or more dreams a night.  And some of these dreams would end up being more than a page long fully written out.  So it got to where I was spending a LOT of time writing down my dreams and trying to interpret them.  A lot of them I wasn't even able to interpret, they didn't even seem interpretable (symbolic).  And of the few here and there that I was successfully able to interpret, the majority of those were merely recapping a previous experience that I had within the last day or so.  Basically replying the experience with different symbols.  I call them recap dreams, and they made up probably ninety some percent of my interpretable dreams. 

I did notice having the occasional precognitive dream though after I started keeping a dream journal.  Which made me think that everybody has them, they just don't realize it because they're not remembering/recording their dreams. 

But, for those of you who do record your dreams everyday and find it valuable to do so, would be nice if you could elaborate on what you get out of it.  I'm curious as to what you're doing different than me because maybe I'm doing something wrong.  The little that I got from it didn't seem to warrant the time invested.   
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: Lionheart on April 28, 2014, 19:56:59
Quote from: kuurt on April 28, 2014, 19:07:17
Why is every dream important?    
Well you answered a lot of why it's important yourself here already.

I find that it shows you patterns in your Dream. It also teaches you how to improve your Dream recall. Which in turn helps you to improve your NP/AP recall as well. You become very good at awaking in the NPR consciously aware because of it.

You see how many repeating Dreams you have. You can see the difference between a "subconsciously" induced scenario, a lesson taught scenario (such as Retrievals/Hero Dreams) and the totally off the wall bizarre ones. This shows you there are indeed different levels of Dreams to be found.

Have you tried to manipulate these Dreams that you are experiencing? Are you the actor, the Director or a member of the "audience"?

It also taught you how to "shun" morning laziness and work towards a goal.

I used to write pages of reports. Now it's only "point form" little scribbles. Once in awhile though I have one of those "eye opener" Dream that definitely warrants a page or two!  :wink:

You are being taught more than you think here. Use this "awakening" to your advantage.
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: EscapeVelocity on April 29, 2014, 04:19:40
Kuurt, what Volgerie and Lionheart are talking about is significant. I'm still working on much of this myself, but I recognize the importance.

Your dreams are a method of communication between your subconscious/inner self/higher self and the conscious YOU... It's a linkage that works on several levels and has to be developed and exercised to fully understand what can be gained from the communication. You mentioned that you were aware of some precognitive dreams; I've never really gotten those, but I've gotten other things, so that may be just one of the subtle angles of Dreaming that you have uncovered.

You need to maintain an almost daily awareness of your dreams IMO, record them, maybe shorten the obvious daily housekeeping dreams, but stay open for the more significant ones. Or patterns like Lionheart said. You have to stay open and aware for them, otherwise they won't show. Again, it's a communication channel that's being developed; you have to consciously decide to nurture it.

Maybe you didn't get anything from your dream journal because you weren't expecting anything more than what your dreams presented on the surface. That's okay... You weren't aware to expect anything else; this is where 'intent' begins to enter into the equation. Once you place some intent into your expectations, your dreams self will begin to communicate more with you. And the nature of your dreams will begin to evolve.

Some ideas. Hope they help.
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: kuurt on April 29, 2014, 21:39:54
I can see how recording your dreams could help you improve your NP/AP recall.  I didn't notice whether or not I had more lucid dreams around the time I was recording my dreams, but I might have.   

I'm not really sure what you mean by patterns, unless you just mean noticing that you tend to dream about certain things a lot.  I can definitely see the point of recording my dreams for the purpose of finding reoccurring elements that I can then use as a trigger to wake up in the dream.  That sounds like a good idea, trying to project from a waking state seems furiously impossible. 

But, as far as dreams being important for the purpose of interpreting them, I haven't had much luck with that.  Even though I've read several books on how to interpret your dreams.  I wonder about the authors that teach dream analysis and what the percentage is of how many of their dreams they're actually able to interpret.  For me, the percentage is very low. 

I feel like that if a dream is important to remember then your subconscious or your Higher Self will make sure that you do remember it.  I think it does that by waking you up at the end of it.  It has been proven that even people who claim they don't dream end up remembering dreams when they're are woken during REM activity.  Seems like when someone is sharing one of their dreams, it always ends up being the interpretable kind when they end by saying "and then I woke up".   Also, I think that when a dream is important we often get a feeling that it is important. 

EscapeVelocity, I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about expecting more from your dreams.  What else is there to expect?  If you're talking about expecting to become lucid and having the intent to consciously control the dream, I don't know how that would increase communication from your dream self.  The dream then becomes whatever you make of it. 
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: EscapeVelocity on April 30, 2014, 02:18:15
My point is that you don't know right now what possibilities might open up through paying more attention to your dreams. I don't know what direction your dream development might take either, but I do know that IT WILL develop IF you put some effort into it. You've already mentioned some precognitive type dreams. Now, I have never gotten anything like that, that I recognize. Other aspects of dreaming have developed for me; but it didn't happen until I started paying proper attention to it.

And I may have misspoken slightly: your dreaming self is not necessarily communicating to you; it is your higher/inner self that is communicating to you THROUGH your dreaming self, and through its development.

If you wish to consciously explore the Wider Reality, one of the traditional ways is through this dreaming identity which must first gain awareness and then expand its awareness and identity.

Certainly, if you can, you want to work along different lines to see what works best for you, what shows results. That may be meditation, energy work, visualization, chakra development, etc. No one can give you the answer specific for you; you have to find that for yourself. Dreaming is just a natural channel that we are all born with.
Title: Re: is this how dream journlings meant to work
Post by: Szaxx on May 01, 2014, 22:27:09
Dream interpretation depends upon what you recall. If you can recall most if the dream with the FEELINGS you were having at that time then you can be given a good interpretation that will say something about you. The finer details are always the dreamers to fill in.
If you have another with details as above post it. I'll do an interpretation if the info isn't too mixed up. You may see something more than what you've experienced so far. :wink: