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Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: collins827 on March 21, 2005, 19:15:36
Not that I have had one yet, but to have a Lucid Dream would I basically have to become aware that I am having a dream? That way as soon as I become aware, I start controlling it?
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: Gandalf on March 21, 2005, 19:18:27
yup... thats it!
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: collins827 on March 21, 2005, 19:21:11
Wow! I saw it to be a way more complicated process. I'm only 13 and that seems extremely easy. Yet, I should not be underestimating anything right now.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: -lines- on March 21, 2005, 21:14:06
Try to become aware during a dream and let us know what you think of it then.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: beavis on March 21, 2005, 21:27:43
No its not that easy. Thats just how you can do it for a few seconds. You have to balance your brain between awake and dreaming. It resists staying in the middle state. If you think too much, you'll wake up. If you think too little, you'll forget you're dreaming (maybe for the rest of the night).

You usually wont figure out you're dreaming if you dont try. Your brain has to increase its frequency from 4 hz to about 6 hz. Think what it would feel like after you drank 10 cups of coffee. Without trying, there is little chance your brain would increase to that from a normal state of mind. You can try all day, but forget to try while sleeping. The problem is to be reminded while in the 4 hz state of mind.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: RTCovenant on March 21, 2005, 21:47:22
Yep, that is all you have to do but it is harder than it seems.

I only have had one LD so far. It happens to me when I am really concious in a dream--mostly because I have to pee--, and I realize that I'm dreaming. That is the only way I had a lucid dream.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 21, 2005, 22:48:13
Quote from: beavisNo its not that easy. Thats just how you can do it for a few seconds. You have to balance your brain between awake and dreaming. It resists staying in the middle state. If you think too much, you'll wake up. If you think too little, you'll forget you're dreaming (maybe for the rest of the night).

You usually wont figure out you're dreaming if you dont try. Your brain has to increase its frequency from 4 hz to about 6 hz. Think what it would feel like after you drank 10 cups of coffee. Without trying, there is little chance your brain would increase to that from a normal state of mind. You can try all day, but forget to try while sleeping. The problem is to be reminded while in the 4 hz state of mind.

lol.. For some reason, I don't think that's going to be much help.

"Not that I have had one yet, but to have a Lucid Dream would I basically have to become aware that I am having a dream?"

Technically, this is a lucid dream. If you realize you're dreaming, it's lucid. There are some tricks for learning to do this in your dream. If you keep a dream journal, it'll be no problem to start exercising more power over your dreams. Don't let Beavis scare you; it comes naturally with time.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: Andali27 on March 21, 2005, 22:59:14
Try looking at your hands to raise awareness.  Tell yourself with a verbal affrimation before you go to sleep:  "When I am dreaming and look at my hands, I will become aware of my dream"

It works for me.  Of course, from there, everything runs into everything else and I wake up with a headache.

Andali :D
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: Meneleus on March 22, 2005, 06:51:35
I find the best way to realise I'm dreaming is whenever I have a bad dream or nightmare.

There are techniques like Andali explained, but for me that doesn't work.  Best advice is try some techniques and see what works for you.  Be patient though, it may take a while before you get any results.

The real trick is maintaining the dream once you become lucid.  Usually I will become lucid only to either slip back into a dream state or awaken after a few seconds.

Meneleus.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: collins827 on March 22, 2005, 08:39:42
Oh OK, I get it now lol. Just was a little rusty before on the topic  :P
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 24, 2005, 19:34:42
Quote from: beavisNo its not that easy. Thats just how you can do it for a few seconds. You have to balance your brain between awake and dreaming. It resists staying in the middle state. If you think too much, you'll wake up. If you think too little, you'll forget you're dreaming (maybe for the rest of the night).

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In the last days i had more LDs (my first one was at a few months). Not very much of them but sometimes i have one. And i can notice that its like Beavis said: you must learn to maintain the control. Its very hard!

But LD its very nice because you see things with high detail and its very "freshy" and beautiful. In all my LD (were not to much..maybe 6 :(   ) i take the oprtunity to fly. I start flying annd then i say to myself "I will take the oportunity to AP". Then i am so cousncious about what i am doing that i will wake up.


Until now i think that, for myself, the best wat to AP its to try an obe while in sleep paralysis state.
Title: It is THAT easy to have a LD?
Post by: JayJay on March 31, 2005, 02:12:04
If you're interested to learn more, be sure to check out Stephen Laberge's book "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming". Other key lucid dreamers/researchers which you may want to google on are Alan Worsley and Paul Tholey.