Lucid Dreams

[Logic]

Sleep and unconsciousness are seperate things. Unconsciousness itself has two seperate meanings, most people associate unconsciousness with being totally asleep physically AND mentally. However, one can still be physically asleep and manage to maintain mental awareness, which is infact the state of lucid dreaming, trance, etc..

[Sinestro]

Yeah Logic I know that they are seperate things. You can believe that Lucid Dreams are real, but I do not. What is so damn important about your dreams anyhow, I mean that you would want to control them. Most peope say why do we sleep or why do we dream when infact know one kows of why we sleep or dream is all we got is theories. The one theory about why we sleep that I believe in is that, sleep may be a way of recharging the brain, using adenosine as a signal that the brain needs to rest: "Since adenosine secretion reflects brain cell activity, rising concentrations of this chemical may be how the organ gauges that it has been burning up its energy reserves and needs to shut down for a while." Adenosine levels in the brain rise during wakefulness and decline during sleep. What we all know is that, with a good night's sleep, everything looks and feels better in the morning. Both the brain and the body are refreshed and ready for a new day. About dreams, I would have to go with these two theories about why we dream wich would be: The physiological theory centers upon how our body, specifically our brains, function during the REM phase of sleep. Proponents of this theory believe that we dream to exercise the synapses, or pathways, between brain cells, and that dreaming takes over where the active and awake brain leaves off. When awake, our brains constantly transmit and receive messages, which course through our billions of brain cells to their appropriate destinations, and keep our bodies in perpetual motion. Dreams replace this function.

Two underpinning physiological facts go towards supporting this theory of dreams. The first lies in the fact that the first two or so years of ones life, the most formative ones for learning, are also the ones in which the most REM sleep occurs. It follows that during this time of the greatest REM sleep, we experience the greatest number of dreams. The second physiological fact that lends credence to this theory is that our brain waves during REM sleep, as recorded by machines measuring the brain's electrical activity, are almost identical in nature to the brain waves during the hours we spend awake. This is not the case during the other phases of sleep.

Psychological theorists of dreams focus upon our thoughts and emotions, and speculate that dreams deal with immediate concerns in our lives, such as unfinished business from the day, or concerns we are incapable of handling during the course of the day. Dreams can, in fact, teach us things about ourselves that we are unaware of.

Connections between dreams that the human psyche have been made by many people over thousands of years. The famous Greek philosopher, Aristotle wrote in his "Parva Naturalia," over 2,200 years ago, of a connection between dreams, waking experiences, and emotional needs.

Others have delved into more complicated explanations for dreams, such as the prophetic nature of dreams written of in the Bible, which was and is a belief held by many cultures. Sigmund Freud, one of the fathers of modern psychology, believed dreams to be symbolic of any number of things buried deep within our minds and our memories.

Until someone proves or disproves one of these theories, or poses an alternate one, we are left at square one. Our knowledge as to what causes us to dream is limited to the fact that we do dream, and that dreams occur during the REM phase of sleep. Sweet dreams!

[Rastus]

Sgmund Freud is so 1970's, and not followed by most modern phychologists.  He has been recently acknowledge as a sexual pervert.  Times change.

Why are the most combative people on these boards males between 16 and 24?  Don't answer that, I know why, but do you? Why are you even here if you don't believe in anything to do with dreams?  I'm quite curious?  This site is designed around bio-energy and AP/OOBE (of which lucid dreaming is a subset).

[cube]

This is probably just a troll but I'll bite just once.

You ought to try the projection techniques for yourself before you around go pooping in everyone else's milkshakes.

[Logic]

What are you trying to acheive here Sinestro?

[Nay]

Yeah, I'd like to know as well and then add if you just have come here to ridicule, that will not be tolerated.  

I also wonder why it makes you so angry that we believe what we believe?  Does it hurt you?  You are the one whom has come here, we didn't come knocking on your door and drag you out kicking and screaming making you believe or do what we do.

So lighten up a bit there Sinestro and try it from a different angle, and if you can't..please do not come back.

Nay

[RooJ]

Hey Sinestro,
I believe you have every right to doubt and every right to start a discussion on that doubt, but your approach is completely wrong. Aggressiveness doesnt get you anywhere on these boards (apart from probebly banned). Id also like to know why your so offended others believe that your willing to verbally attack them. Its the same state of mind that causes most wars.. sad really.

As a person who's had many lucid dreams i can tell you that, at least to me, lucid dreams are very real. The lucidity institute has also gone a long way in lucid dream research and you might want to take a look there for info. As alot of people get told on these forums, if you want proof the best proof you can get is to actually experience it for yourself. Lucid dreams arnt that hard to accomplish.

RooJ

[narfellus]

Sinestro, you're posting ugly words on boards where hundreds if not thousands of people have had amazing experiences you are obviously not ready to understand yet. There's no need for such aggression. If you want answers just ask kindly, people will be more than happy to give you their opinion even if you don't agree (or if they don't agree with you). Banal word flinging is just a sign of ones own lack of understanding.

[wisp]

Sinestro,
Carl Jung progressed dream studies. You should read that.

Science is a belief system you choose to follow. It's too bad science has sold out to the corporate machinery. If it can't be bottled and sold....well it can't be real can it?

Stay in your square one if you choose.

[Sinestro]

Haha, Wisp even though you amuse me I must conclude this game, I have engagements to keep and I can't be late.

[Sinestro]

What is with you people, you think that you can actually control your dreams, what a bunch of nonsese. Look most of you say well when I was half asleep or I was almost asleep this happend or that. Look you are either asleep or not asleep there is no half way or part of the way. You are either conscious or you are unconscious.