Novadreamer alternatives

[MiStACoRn]

http://www.dreamflasher.net

I think this is brand new, since I haven't really been able to find much info on it.  Much cheaper alternative to the NovaDreamer, and it plugs in.. no need to reload the battery every night.  On the downside it doesn't detect REM, so you have to kinda figure out when you're dreaming yourself to flash the cues.

[jc84corvette]

$110! To much for that:(

[Nagual]

You get what you pay for...
Btw, your intent and will power are free tools. []

[MiStACoRn]

Honestly I think the NovaDreamer is quite pricy.. especially considering the only benefit you get over this one is the detection of REM.  You could look at that as a benefit though, because a lot of people don't get a good night's sleep with the ND because REM cycles happen all throughout the night.  At least you can tell this one to go off in 6 hours instead of every time you cycle into REM.  Plus the only place you can get a ND right now is from the manufacturers, and they're almost twice the price that way.

I'm thinking about getting this.. because I'm having a really hard time with LDs.  I've been trying everything in the book with no results.  I know I'm susceptible to external stimuli though, because things have happened like my phone would ring, and then I would hear it in the dream, and my dream would literally invlolve my phone ringing, but then the sound got loud enough to wake me.  Not sure if I would have even realized I was dreaming either though, even if it hadn't woken me.  I've been writing down my dreams for a while, but there's no patterns or consistant dreamsigns... so I'm thinking this might be the only way for me.

[kampersdream]

the whole point is to detect rem sleep. while the novadreamer is pricey,
i have found it to be very effective. the only downside for me was learning to sleep with it on
(its not the most comfortable sleep mask). i dont use mine anymore because
1. I am past that stage, now I ld fine on my own 2.my son was curious as to what was inside,
so even if I wanted to use it, its ooc. for the begginer who can afford it,
its a wonderful aid. just remember to treat these type of aids as training wheels.

 gl keith

[nolscarf]

What other alternatives to aid in lucid dreaming are there?