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Dreams => Welcome to Dreams! => Topic started by: psychedelia on February 09, 2012, 10:39:12

Title: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: psychedelia on February 09, 2012, 10:39:12
ok i know ive made a few drug related posts before but this one is different. simply cannabis and WILD's. ok to start off i started smoking again and found that its great for meditation,well for the main bit of my point is i know that cannabis suppresses REM sleep so its not good for dreams unless your doing an REM rebound but ok heres the deal thc and other cannabinoids like cbd all act on out cannabinoid receptor and our brain has them there for endocannabinol(our endegenous natural brain generated cannabis). the problem is if they both are cannabinoids why isnt our REM suppresses 24/7?? (maybe chemical in the brain counter acts the suppression...idk) and to add to my reasoning      over the past few nights after i smoke i turn off my tv lay back and relax and try to go to sleep still rather spaced out and i let my thoughts flow observing them and sending them away and then a certain image/scenary comes into my view(like a dream image) then its gets really intense/and i wake up jumping outta my sleep(it was like a dream that woke you up from being so intense/vivid but recalling none of it. the specific one that makes me wanna bring this up is last night. i made a vaporizer loved it the best thing ever! but i smoked and watched 30 min of family guy then 30 min of two and a half men and smoked and went to bed well i have slight recall but......just like all the other days but this time i was viewing this blurry scene and i kept concentrating and next thing you know it came at me like 3d and i instantly woke up but not in that jump up panic just i realized id woke up so i opened my eye....thus with this said is there anything you could do to stop the suppression or i guess a CILD (cannabis induced lucid dream)
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: Xanth on February 09, 2012, 11:39:19
Have you noticed that you talk about drugs and using drugs... *A LOT*?

You might want to reflect upon that for a bit.
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: psychedelia on February 09, 2012, 12:37:50
are you saying view over my interest in hallucinogens?? cause the only substance i use is cannabis. psychedelics dissociatives and diliriants are an interest so i dont indulge in them(yes i smoke pot and want 1 psychedelic exp.)
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: psychedelia on February 09, 2012, 12:42:19
if i dont want to use galantamine for REM rebound (by suppressing REM sleep) but for inhibiting the break down of acetylcholine how should i take it?.........i wanna take 4mg of galantamine and 500mg of choline(give or take) but i want choline to increase REM and use galantamine for inhibition of acetylcholine break down so when should i take it so i dont have to wake up 4hrs into the night of sleep
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: Xanth on February 09, 2012, 14:31:19
All I'm saying is that you talk about it a lot...

If you're seriously interested in learning how to do astral projection/phasing/obe/whatever... I do highly suggest actually LEARNING to do it. 

Suffice to say, this website/forum doesn't endorse the usage of any of these chemicals for a reason.  You don't need them. 

Learn to actually focus your mind on your own.  You have all the tools you need to do it.  You just need focus now.
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: Killa Rican on February 09, 2012, 15:43:25
With xanth. I think experimentation is okay just to say "Hey I did it! And It felt different" and compare the experiences to naturally induced non-physical experiences. I dont think one should rely on them in order to have a non-physical experience if that is your goal.
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: urshebear on February 10, 2012, 01:23:17
agree I think I have said this before but I am not opposed to a play every now and then (although I don't touch LSD, mushrooms or meth) but would never use drugs to help me AP.
AP is supposed to be a state where your mind is clear and at peace. Don't expect to have any profound meaningful experiences because all you are doing is tripping wether your here or in the astral.
Title: Re: not just another drug/dream post
Post by: Szaxx on February 10, 2012, 05:13:44
Hi,
The message here is,
You should drive your own car.
Not let a stranger drive you around in it.......