Now, I dont have many dreams,
I am not saying that because I dont remember them,
I only sleep 1 hour a week, unless I forget... in wich case I would sleep none... So when I say I dont have many dreams I seriously mean it...
I might get 2 quick ones in a week,
And 99.99% of the time they are Lucid...
When they are not... they allmost allways make sence
However, my last dream(9 days ago) made no sence what so ever...
It started off with me "waking up" as a Cat... now, My family did not realize the dif... they thought I was just normal me...
I was walking to school...(I dont go to school)
And just before I get to the door some girl came up and asked me out...(WTF... Im ugly, AND A CAT!)
I said no and scratched her in the face...(I would never hit/scratch a female)
The teacher asked me to read a book... but some reason I could not read...
All of a sudden the teacher whent and put on Green day's song "Jesus Of Suburbia" and started sing and dancing...(She dont listen to that kinda music, and It wasnt playing while I was asleep either)
While I was walking home the same girl asked me out again... this time she was allso a Cat... I said no and again scratched her in the face (Again I would never do that to a female)
Then all of a sudden I was abducted by aliens...(They wernt my friends either, they were little green men...)
They took one look at me and sent be back...
hello, Im human again... YAY!
I carry on walking down the street and then I bang into mary-kate & ashley olsen... they both asked me if I wanted to go out with them...
Naturaly I told the ugly ashley I wasnt interested... But me and the HOT mary-kate whent to the movies...
that girl I said no to when I was a Cat followd and sat next to me and asked me again... this time I said "For the last time NO!" and then she ran off crying, I told mary-kate I would be right back and I whent to see how she was, But I couldnt find her...
I whent back to mary-kate and finished watching the movie and she had to go somewhere and I whent home and that girl was sitting on the door step crying and it was raining, so I took her inside, and got her dry, and...
:whistle: YadaYadaYada :whistle:
Then I took her home
then I woke up...
For anyone that believes dreams mean somthing... Which they dont, but however...
If you do then I would love to know what you make of that :confused:
-AstralBorn
Haha that dream is hilarious! I've had a few like that where I was watching fish escape from our tank with jet packs.. and one where I unscrewed the top of my skull to take fish out of it.. Hmm fish seems to be a common theme here..
Anyway, I don't think it's meaningless. Its probably very highly symbolic. Or maybe it just means you need more sleep.
Lol.. One hour a week? I hope that's an exaggeration!
LOL! that definitely has got to be an exaggeration. Come on astralborn, don't make me tease you... :wink: Nothing gets my goat more, then when people start exaggerating or flat out lie to make things look more interesting...
Yes, it is an exaggeration... it's more like 59mins and 59seconds...
No, it is true...
I go to sleep at 11:00PM every saturday and wake up at midnight...
Sometimes im to busy and forget... in which case I wait till the next saturday...
One only needs to sleep because ones body needs sleep to fix itself...
I have extramly advanced healing abilitys... My body doesnt need sleep to heal itself... So, I dont need sleep, But I do so because I enjoy dreaming...
Quote from: AstralBornYes, it is an exaggeration... it's more like 59mins and 59seconds...
No, it is true...
I go to sleep at 11:00PM every saturday and wake up at midnight...
Sometimes im to busy and forget... in which case I wait till the next saturday...
One only needs to sleep because ones body needs sleep to fix itself...
I have extramly advanced healing abilitys... My body doesnt need sleep to heal itself... So, I dont need sleep, But I do so because I enjoy dreaming...
Are you serious?! I'm beginning to believe you :shock: WTF?
And so you should believe me... because it is the truth...
The only reason for sleep is the bodys need to regenarate, and heal..
I can very easaly do that without sleep, and I do... So my body never needs it and I donot get tierd...
I donot even need to sleep that 1 hour, and only do so to dream,
And no Im not going to prove myself by breaking the world record... Which I believe is only 11 days?
Muhahahaha..well I don't! And now am beginning to think you are full of doo-doo.
Unbelievable what some people will say and do... :roll:
And what exactly do you find "Unbelievable"?
The fact that someone can heal themself?
there is nothing Unbelievable about it...
I use my healing ability to do the same thing sleep does, therefor there is no need for sleep...
I mean, Believe what you want, But it doesnt change the truth does it?
OH. come on! For how long have you been living on just one hour a sleep a week??
I can see someone doing it for ONE week, hell, I've had three kids and went without loads of sleep, but damn man, the body just can't handle it. I'm thinking no one is THAT good in healing, not even Mr. NEW ways himself.
Nay
What a waste of healing... I couldn't live without my 3 lie-ins per week...
Actually I do find it kind of unbelievable, and weird. Would you kindly describe your healing techniques for us? :grin:
You know, Im actuly getting tierd of explaining the same thing over and over again... Sure can't wait till I get a damn website made so I can just write everything down for the last time...
My healing ability is 100% totaly utterly natural, Therefore I have no techniques, I just DO IT
Yes people are THAT good in healing...
Just because people dont go around showing off there abilitys doesnt mean they dont exist...
What.... do you want me to go around healing the sick? Raising the dead?
Because I can do that if I so wish...
Some people like to stick to themselfs you know... Just because people such as myself dont go around doing what we do for everyone to see doesnt mean we can't...
Like I just said before...
"I mean, Believe what you want, But it doesnt change the truth does it?"
I have said before that I dont realy care what anyone believes...
I would prefer it if you would believe the truth... but it is up to you...
Disbelieving somthing thats true.... well, only you are missing out.
Would you like me to prove it?
Why not fly over to New Zealand... I can break a leg or two of yours and fix them up again for you :wink: How does that sound?
What would be the point for me to lie?
To impress a bunch of strangers who I am never going to meet?
I dont realy care about impressing people I dont know...
I was working on trying to heal remotely so I could help some people on this forum out... I do see alot of requests in the healing section...
But I guess since no one believes it theres realy no point is there?
To answer how long I have been sleeping only the hour a week?
Sine my fith birthday... 20th March 1994... I wokeup at midnight wich was a sunday... and simply descided I would only wake up at midnight on sunday after going to sleep at 11pm saturday
Im sure if you realy wanted it you could do the exact same thing...
You know... This is not about how long I sleep... Or how well I heal...
Lets get back to the point.... MY DREAM!
This is the last post I will make in here about my sleeping and healing...
So please just dont mention it any more... I have said all there is to be said about it...
Back to my dream, Please...
-AstralBorn
LOL..touchy subject eh? And yes I do wish you would heal the sick and raise the dead! Do you know how many people would want their loved ones back?..do you know how many people would love for you to heal their sick friends or family members?
Do you realize what you have?? If you truly can do this, you should immediately go out into the world and let it be known! And I'm not talking about chatting about it on a forum. Go out talk to the media and get the ball rolling!
Why in the world are you worried about A DREAM, when you claim to have such a gift?
What the hell do you think would happen to someone if they starting seriously raising the dead?
They would be locked up in a damn lab and studied...
Or burned at the stake... one or the other...
No, I would prefer to just live a normal life... welll, as normal as it can be...
Please, This is about my dream...
Anyone able to bring meaning to it?
Fine...your dream seems to indicate you have sex on the brain, perhaps you need to get your groove on? With all that time on your hands you shouldn't have a problem.
Nay
sex on the brain?
LMFAO... I do believe that is not so :lol:
What I realy want to know is why the heck I drempt about being a Cat...
I have been teaching my Cat a few things lately... but I dont see how that would have anything to do with it, and I allso want to know why I drempt about being abducted by aliens and why I drempt about going to school, when I dont go to school, and why the teacher was being so weird, cause I dont remember her ever listening to that kind of music and never knowen her to dance...
And why would I dream I couldnt read... Why I scratched her...
If dreams mean things what does all that mean
Quote from: AstralBornWhat I realy want to know is why the heck I drempt about being a Cat...
I have been teaching my Cat a few things lately... but I dont see how that would have anything to do with it, and I allso want to know why I drempt about being abducted by aliens and why I drempt about going to school, when I dont go to school, and why the teacher was being so weird, cause I dont remember her ever listening to that kind of music and never knowen her to dance...
And why would I dream I couldnt read... Why I scratched her...
If dreams mean things what does all that mean
I was serious about the sex on the brain. Your dream sounds like a typical non-lucid dream about everyday stuff, just jumbled and weird due to not being lucid. But it does have a sense of you ostrcizing yourself from everyone else, hence the lashing out and scratching when asked about your identity. You either want to be different or don't want people close to you in fear of finding out your secrets. :grin:
Nay
can I have a Goldfish now?
"You either want to be different or don't want people close to you in fear of finding out your secrets."
I don't want to be different... I just want to be who I am...
And I dont have to fear people finding out my secrets, Because I have none...
It may be a "typical" non-lucid dream for you, or for most people...
But my non-lucid dreams allmost allways make perfect sence... they are usualy normal...
There are a lot of medical / psychological conditions
that make it so that you sleep less / require less sleep.
(e.g. insomnia and such)
So I don't have much trouble believing that he sleeps 1h
a week. I, for one, need to sleep >8h per night to stay
sharp :-D is there a record for needing a lot of sleep as
well ? :p I think I just might go and break it as well...
Cheers
Quote from: GeKKoThere are a lot of medical / psychological conditions
that make it so that you sleep less / require less sleep.
(e.g. insomnia and such)
So I don't have much trouble believing that he sleeps 1h
a week. I, for one, need to sleep >8h per night to stay
sharp :-D is there a record for needing a lot of sleep as
well ? :p I think I just might go and break it as well...
Cheers
Link about lack of sleep:
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Ledoux.html
which states death will result eventually through lack of sleep.
Doing googles on this subject will show many reports of either permanent brain damage or permanent personality change through not sleeping enough, or being awake for 1 week+.
I guess this is why people are skeptical of such claims. Studdies have shown that we cannot learn, or function correctly without an adiquate amount of sleep, and death eventually results. So sleep is just a belief system we are tied to (else new born babies would never sleep - ie they wouldn't have learnt such behaviour just after birth), its actually a biological mechanism which we are bound to. Even the Deli Lama stated he needs 3-4 hours of sleep each day - he doesn't need more as deep meditation done throughout his day makes up for it.
You are really a funny guy astralborn!
let me first say that i always try to keep on open mind and therefore I see the possibility that you are a honest person. But.......
Are you teasing us?
I mean from the posts a read so far you seem to be fairly intelligent so what do you expect?
Saying "hey I can live without sleep" "can heal the sick" can AP at will" I mean wow what an honor to talk to Mr. Jesus himself!
So what do you expect? Do you expect us to say: "Oh yeah sure, I believe you.." If we would be like that we would get nowhere because unfortunately it happens quite often that people lie and claim to have super powers they don't. So what can we do? Maybe in a perfect world we would be competly neutral and open minded just believe you and comment on your dream. But we are just humans so we won't do that...
We will doubt what you say, ask for proof and maybe even attack you.
In the end we can only believe our own experiences.
And you are right indeed the truth doesn't change. everything is truth and it's all there is.
I know what you will say "focus on my dream please" ok, but why do you have to make these claims at all when you just want a normal live?!
It is a matter of fact that your claim " I need no sleep" just happens to be more interesting then your cat-dream. So by putting that claim there it was apparent that people will not focus and you dream. you seem smart enough to knew that a priori, so why did you do that?!
And if it's true (I never said you lie!) then I think you should heal the sick!
I know a couple of them that would be happy if you could heal them and yes it would be worth the effort to learn remote healing. But I think you should act not just talk. I seriously think you need a wise person that helps you handle you gifts ( Remark:I don't consider myself to be wise)
One other question: Do you believe it would be possible for me to learn to need so little sleep? I would like to learn that! Seriously! So any idea how I could achieve that. As a matter of fact i had bad insomnia and sleep is always an issue for me therefore I ask.
Regards Tom
Ok, Ill first start with MisterJingo...
The only tests in which somthing has died from lack of sleep... and that they can proof that is the cause is with animals.... Dare you compare humans to animals?
Tombo, No I dont expect people to go around saying "Oh yeah sure, I believe you.." But I dont expect them to go around calling me a liar either...
"And if it's true (I never said you lie!) then I think you should heal the sick! "
I do heal people... I heal my friends...
"I seriously think you need a wise person that helps you handle you gifts "
Well, I am quite capable of handling my own gifts... I have done so for allmost 17 years.
I have been going to some "master" healer to help me with the remote healing thing though...
"Do you believe it would be possible for me to learn to need so little sleep? I would like to lean that! Seriously! So any idea how I could achieve that. As a matter of fact i had bad insomnia and sleep is always an issue for me therefore I ask."
I do believe you could do it...
It is easy for anyone to go a week without sleep...
People can easaly go as long as 9 days... but 10 and 11 is what gets most people... now, 1 hour may be a little short for someone who cannot heal themself... but if the sleep is deep enough and not desturbed you would be suprized at how little you need to be ready to go anouther week...
A friend of mine... who trys to be just like me goes 5 days and only needs 4 hours sleep before he can go anouther 5... and he is just your normal everyday person... no healing abilitys or anything...
So, sure it's possable for you...
But you have to believe you can...
"""Saying "hey I can live without sleep" "can heal the sick" can AP at will" I mean wow what an honor to talk to Mr. Jesus himself! """
Im sure there are plenty of real people who have/claim to have the same abilitys I do... Would it not have been better to use a real persons name?
People just can't help but believe what they hear...
Just because everyone says sleep is important and that no sleep kills... doesnt mean it's true...
-AstralBorn
Quote"Dare you compare humans to animals?"
Why not compare them?
QuoteBut I dont expect them to go around calling me a liar either...
agreed
QuoteIt is easy for anyone to go a week without sleep...
People can easaly go as long as 9 days... but 10 and 11 is what gets most people... now, 1 hour may be a little short for someone who cannot heal themself...
11 days is like the world record......... I wonder why you think sleep is only needed to heal?
Funny thing, when I had insomnia i wasn't sick once in a whole year! Not even the slightest cold. I think sleep is more needed for your mental well being. your reaction time will go down you will start bumping into things, you will become emotionally weak, get depressed, unable to concentrate, you will start to fantasize, etc..... eventually you will lose your mind. I'm not saying this because i read it somewhere, I experienced it. Maybe true that you don't need sleep but are you sure it is a good idea to assign this to other people?
QuoteA friend of mine... who trys to be just like me goes 5 days and only needs 4 hours sleep before he can go anouther 5... and he is just your normal everyday person...
Poor friend!
QuoteBut you have to believe you can...
I can't believe that, sorry!
Quote"""Saying "hey I can live without sleep" "can heal the sick" can AP at will" I mean wow what an honor to talk to Mr. Jesus himself! """
Im sure there are plenty of real people who have/claim to have the same abilitys I do...
Not that i know of.......
QuotePeople just can't help but believe what they hear...
Just because everyone says sleep is important and that no sleep kills... doesnt mean it's true...
sleep deprivation is a well know instrument of torture, that is not based on believe but on effect.
Tom
"Why not compare them?"
Why not... Because humans are stronger than animals...
The only "animal" I would ever dare compare to humans is a chimpanzee... And that is because they are human...
"Poor friend!"
How is he poor?
"I can't believe that, sorry!"
Why the hell did you ask then?
"sleep deprivation is a well know instrument of torture, that is not based on believe but on effect. "
Oh... I see...Thanks, I allways wonderd why my life was so great... because im being tortured... :roll:
-AstralBorn
Quote from: AstralBornOk, Ill first start with MisterJingo...
The only tests in which somthing has died from lack of sleep... and that they can proof that is the cause is with animals.... Dare you compare humans to animals?
Yes. They have similar brain strucutres, similar body organs. We share the same DNA, we share the same common ancestors, we share similar emotions (we can't be 100% sure that the share what we might term higher emotions but base definately), we share the same mechanisms of body defence, we both dream, we both have REM. As much as anything can be compared to anything else, we can definately compare humans to animals (humans are a genus of animal).
Rats tend to die after 3+ weeks of no sleep. But taking differences of brain size etc humans most likely wouldn't after such a time. I'm not even going to guess how long it might take.
For deaths relating to sleep deprivation have a look into the condition called:
"Fatal familial insomnia"
It is a condition where the parts of the brain which control sleep are affected (ie the patient cannot get sleep) and death results within months.
AFAIK humans suffering severe sleep deprivation will undergo "micro sleeps" that is they experience REM while being awake and so would generally be delirious.
Apart from some reports stating controlled sleep deprivation might reduce depression signs, not a signle report has ever stated anything but a gradual decrease in faculties until delusions and seeming psychosis set in.
QuoteWhy not... Because humans are stronger than animals...
Stronger in what way?
Quote"Poor friend!"
How is he poor?
he's tring to emulate you. i imagine it to be pretty though tring to be like a super human :roll: seems likely the best he can be is a poor imitation.
Quote"I can't believe that, sorry!"
Why the hell did you ask then?
I was asking cause i thought you might have some tangible exercise or so I could try.
Quote"sleep deprivation is a well know instrument of torture, that is not based on believe but on effect. "
Oh... I see...Thanks, I allways wonderd why my life was so great... because im being tortured... :roll:
You missed my point : You are not a normal human, maybe you don't need sleep but a normal human needs sleep.
Hell, what are you doing with all your freetime anyway? Do you never get tired? How much did you sleep as a child?
If I ever go to new zealand i come and visit you! You can break my leg and then fix it :wink:
Tom
BTW: do you eat :smile:
"I was asking cause i thought you might have some tangible exercise or so I could try."
It doesnt matter what you try, if you dont believe you can do it you wont be able to...
"Hell, what are you doing with all your freetime anyway? Do you never get tired? How much did you sleep as a child?"
In my freetime I make computer programs, I work on improving my abilitys, I look at the past and the future, I walk around the astral universe, I play my playstation, I write books, songs, poems... I read... watch tv, dvd's... Listen to music, Play chess, Teach my cat, play with my daughter, play guitar, talk to my friends, etc...etc...
No, I never get tired... Well, that is... I never FEEL tierd...
Up untill I turned 5 I sleept the same amount of time any normal child would sleep...
"If I ever go to new zealand i come and visit you! You can break my leg and then fix it"
Youll have to find me first...
"BTW: do you eat "
...Of corse I eat...
Hi AstralBorn
Quote from: AstralBornplay with my daughter
According to a previous post of yours, you were 5 years old in 1995. That makes you 15 years old.
Play with your daughter...??Quote from: AstralBorn...Of corse I eat...
Why the "of course", when you've told us you don't sleep?
Why do you eat?
Sarah
Once I've spoken to a person who said he had very little sleep, although he only considered sleep when he went to bed, he would spend 9 hours in 'deep meditation' while sitting in his living room.
You believe all that this guy say ? :lol:
Mister Jingo wrote:
Quote"Fatal familial insomnia"
It is a condition where the parts of the brain which control sleep are affected (ie the patient cannot get sleep) and death results within months.
AFAIK humans suffering severe sleep deprivation will undergo "micro sleeps" that is they experience REM while being awake and so would generally be delirious.
Like believing they don't sleep?
"According to a previous post of yours, you were 5 years old in 1995. That makes you 15 years old. Play with your daughter...??"
I actuly said 1994... I am 16... 17 next month...
She was born when I was 13... (And dont go saying its impossable...)
"Why do you eat?"
Why do YOU eat?
"You believe all that this guy say ?"
"Like believing they don't sleep? "
If you dont have anything nice to say DONT SAY ANYTHING!
-AstralBorn
Quote from: AstralBornWhy do YOU eat?
I didn't think I'd have to spell it out why I was asking the question, however...
You see the majority of us believe that we need to sleep to stay alive. We'd simply die if we didn't sleep.
Likewise, we also believe we need to eat for the same reason.
Therefore, I was curious as to why you eat, when you obviously don't need to sleep to stay alive.
Why do you eat?
Quote from: AstralBornIf you dont have anything nice to say DONT SAY ANYTHING!
We're not all fluffy bunnies and huggy huggies here you know. People have every right to doubt what you say. You must appreciate that we weren't born yesterday and your claims are somewhat "incredible".
I personally don't believe a word you say, but I've not barged in at the beginning and stuck my oar in. I read your posts and listened to what you had to say. Gave you a fair chance to explain yourself.
However, you don't seem willing to explain yourself. You're always on the defensive.
Do you
really expect us to believe you - to swallow it without questioning? Seriously? Do you really think we're that gullible?
:roll:
Sarah
PS There's no need to shout.
""and your claims are somewhat "incredible". ""
No, No there not... Theres nothing incredible about it... It's just that everyone is so damn Ignorant and believe it's not possable simply because a bunch of scientists, doctors say it isnt...
When I wrote "Why do YOU eat?" I was asking you why you eat...
Because I eat for the same reason everyone else does...
Just like we sleep for the same reason everyone else does.
The fact that Dr's say that it can't be done, and the fact that NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD CAN DO IT are probably the main reasons that no one believes you. The world record is 11 days for a reason.
You seem to be pretty eager to pat yourself on the back and brag about your special abilities. Why don't you go out and beat the world record? 1 extra day on the world record wouldn't call any attention to yourself, you would just be a name in a book. But if we all see it go from 11-12 days, we would know that you are for real.
But as it stands now, you are just on here seeking attention for yourself. Looks like it worked, congratulations.
:sad3:
"and the fact that NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD CAN DO IT "
Thousands of people can do it...
Like I said in my last post... Ignorant...
"The world record is 11 days for a reason."
Yea.. the reason is that no normal person can beat it, and no abnormal person cares about beating it...
"Why don't you go out and beat the world record? 1 extra day on the world record wouldn't call any attention to yourself, you would just be a name in a book. But if we all see it go from 11-12 days, we would know that you are for real"
I am going to go and beat it one day...
But as it is now I dont care about it... I dont care about beating a record... I dont need to prove myself to anyone...
"But as it stands now, you are just on here seeking attention for yourself. Looks like it worked, congratulations. "
I can get attention for myself by taking over the world...
I dont need to get attention from a bunch of ignorant strangers on a website...
I will argue about it... I will insist Im telling the truth...
But when it truly comes down to it I DONT CARE what you or anyone else thinks...
I am not just trying to get attention for myself...
And like I said before dont say anything it you have nothing nice to say...
It's one thing saying you dont believe somthing but acusing someone of lying without knowing for sure is wrong...
QuoteIt doesnt matter what you try, if you dont believe you can do it you wont be able to...
You could change my believe.......
QuoteI look at the past and the future,
Do you care to share?
QuoteI walk around the astral universe,
How much time per week do you spend in the astral?
QuotePlay chess
me too, just I never found a partner to play :roll: My friends all think it's boring. we could make a game sometime.
QuoteNo, I never get tired... Well, that is... I never FEEL tierd...
Up untill I turned 5 I sleept the same amount of time any normal child would sleep...
Then it suddenly changed? how did that happen? any clue why it changed?
QuoteYoull have to find me first...
I would only come if you invite me...........
Quote...Of corse I eat...
i don't find this question so silly either. there are people claiming that they don't need food and only live from light. I don't find this reports any more strange then somebody not needing sleep. i mean it is evident that a normal organism needs sleep, if it wouldn't we wouldn't sleep.i don't think nature is so stupid and lets organism sleep if it's not needed. But i see the possibility that the mind can master matter so to speak and make the Body independent from food as well as sleep.
Quote""and your claims are somewhat "incredible". ""
No, No there not... Theres nothing incredible about it... It's just that everyone is so damn Ignorant and believe it's not possable simply because a bunch of scientists, doctors say it isnt...
No that is not the reason, the reason simply is that we get very tired when we don't sleep. Lot of people try to go without sleep and they can't do it.
people that sleep not enough suffer from certain health problems like increased blood pressure etc. I think that is pretty much prooven.
I'm not saying that it is impossbile but i say for the normal organism it is not possible. And you seem to argue agianst that with only your claim:
"I can do it so it's possbile" kind of argument. i mean if that is all you have to say then the discussion is over I guess......
"Do you care to share?"
Share what exactly?
"How much time per week do you spend in the astral?"
Im not going to answer that because it will just lead to more people calling me a liar...
"Then it suddenly changed? how did that happen? any clue why it changed?"
It changed because I wanted it to change...
"i don't think nature is so stupid and lets organism sleep if it's not needed"
People are born with and live with there whole life insomnia...
You think nature is being so stupid when it makes such people?
No... it is trying to do away with sleep...
It is humans, and animals alike that keeps sleep going... because they all just consider it normal, natrural and like to dream...
"people that sleep not enough suffer from certain health problems like increased blood pressure etc. I think that is pretty much prooven. "
They suffer from increased blood pressure because they dont take the time to relax while they are staying awake...
QuoteShare what exactly?
The future you saw
Quote"How much time per week do you spend in the astral?"
Im not going to answer that because it will just lead to more people calling me a liar...
They allready call you aliar so what does it matter :wink: No seriously please answer because I have a theorie.
QuotePeople are born with and live with there whole life insomnia
You think nature is being so stupid when it makes such people?
It is an illness, do you want to debate why there is sickness in the world?
I don't mind if he is saying the truth or not sine it's not affecting my life in any way, but I admit that it would have been more interesting to me if he said that he could sleep a whole day away, or a whole week.
"The future you saw"
Ok, I dont talk about the future... because talking about it changes it.. and changing it is wrong... Ill talk about seeing the future... but not about the future...
"No seriously please answer because I have a theorie. "
And whats the theorie?
"It is an illness, do you want to debate why there is sickness in the world? "
Its not an illness... people only call it such because they consider sleep normal, and think we need sleep...
It's not an illness...
" but I admit that it would have been more interesting to me if he said that he could sleep a whole day away, or a whole week."
Anyone can do that... Why the heck would you find that interesting?
Quote from: AstralBorn
"No seriously please answer because I have a theorie. "
And whats the theorie?
I'm guessing that the theory regards the general state of the mind/body during an AP experience has all the haulmarks of a body in a sleep state ie when you are projecting, your body is actually sleeping - and so you do sleep. Sort of like how deep meditation can take the place of a good nights sleep.
I have found that by using a simple deep breathing technique that I too can go much longer without needing sleep as well as not needing as much to eat. So, I can see how one might be able to get to a stage of not needing sleep.
There are also some substances you could take or eat that may allow you to go longer without sleep. I'm not sure exactly what these are but I see things advertised at truck stops and such that are used for this purpose.
Good Energy...
Covelo
PS--I also am of the mind that anything is possible, so this doesn't really surprise me that someone may have figured this one out.
Quote from: MisterJingoQuote from: AstralBorn
"No seriously please answer because I have a theorie. "
And whats the theorie?
I'm guessing that the theory regards the general state of the mind/body during an AP experience has all the haulmarks of a body in a sleep state ie when you are projecting, your body is actually sleeping - and so you do sleep. Sort of like how deep meditation can take the place of a good nights sleep.
Exactly. When you say you AP, lets say 30 hours per week. I would count that as sleep. Your body is technically at sleep. I mean I know that there are monks or other people that are able to maintain their consciousness while falling asleep. This is a part of dream yoga. Through a variety of exercises one can learn to maintain consciousness without break from falling asleep till waking up. So in way their consciousness never sleeps. But their body does. It seems to me that your are doing the exact same thing.
So if that's the case your claims become much more easy to believe.
"30 hours per week"
Try 168 hours per week... Im both here and there... Bilocation.
And here we go again... Now where going to start talking about that... And more of "liar" "I don't believe you"...
My Physical body is more than awake while im in the Astral Universe...
So it has nothing to do with it...
However, For about 1 1/2 hours a day everyday while im visiting my friends I have to put more awareness in my AstralBody... And my physical body allthough still awake goes into a deep state... but im sure not deep enough to make up for any sleep...
-AstralBorn
Quote from: AstralBorn"30 hours per week"
Try 168 hours per week... Im both here and there... Bilocation.
And here we go again... Now where going to start talking about that... And more of "liar" "I don't believe you"...
My Physical body is more than awake while im in the Astral Universe...
So it has nothing to do with it...
However, For about 1 1/2 hours a day everyday while im visiting my friends I have to put more awareness in my AstralBody... And my physical body allthough still awake goes into a deep state... but im sure not deep enough to make up for any sleep...
-AstralBorn
I guess now we have some more things to talk about. How does it feel to be at two places at once? I imgaine that to be kind of difficult. I mean i can't really focus on two things at the same time. I mean, I can't focus conversation while focusing on a melody for example. how can you do that :confused:
Also, you should be able to teach us a lot about the nature of the astral.......
"How does it feel to be at two places at once"
For me it just feels natural... I havent expereanced being in only 1 body so I dont have anything to compare the feeling to...
"Also, you should be able to teach us a lot about the nature of the astral....... "
I can teach you every little thing about the Astral Universe...
However you have all convinced me of how closedminded you all are, so whats the point?
It's allready clear that no one believes a word I say... so why would you want me to teach you anything?
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I can teach you every little thing about the Astral Universe...
However you have all convinced me of how closedminded you all are, so whats the point?
It's allready clear that no one believes a word I say... so why would you want me to teach you anything?
So rather than questioning the validity of statements, you would rather everyone be sheep, believing everything they are ever told with no attempt to discover the validity of such knowledge?
I see questioning as being a lot more open minded than a person who believes everything they are ever told (thats gullibility).
People might be sceptical of what you say, as whatever we might personally believe, it goes against every single piece of empirical data on the subject of sleep. And more, you point blanc are unwilling to validate anything you say under scientific conditions.
Even though I'm sceptical, i'm openminded enough to consider what you say.
Quote from: AstralBorn"How does it feel to be at two places at once"
For me it just feels natural... I havent expereanced being in only 1 body so I dont have anything to compare the feeling to...
"Also, you should be able to teach us a lot about the nature of the astral....... "
I can teach you every little thing about the Astral Universe...
However you have all convinced me of how closedminded you all are, so whats the point?
It's allready clear that no one believes a word I say... so why would you want me to teach you anything?
We have
all convinced you? I don't think that is a nice comment to make you should not lump us all together. I already stressed that I don't consider you to be liar.
I want you to teach because of many reasons. Of which an important one is that we can maybe apply what you say and have our own experiences with it. We don't need to judge whether or not you are right but rather we can see for ourselfs.
For example you could explain why I can't see real objects like for example a playing card correctly when I'm out of body. And how i can fix that problem.
Tom
MisterJingo, Questioning is one thing, Disbelieveing straight away like most of you do is being closedminded...
"For example you could explain why I can't see real objects like for example a playing card correctly when I'm out of body. And how i can fix that problem. "
You could probably start by actuly going out...
The most common cause of not being able to see properly is because you havent enough consciousness in your astral body...
Second most common is your to far away from the physical world...
Lower yourself...
QuoteYou could probably start by actuly going out...
The most common cause of not being able to see properly is because you havent enough consciousness in your astral body...
I don't understand what do you mean by actuly going out? You mean get more awareness while out? How can I get more consciousness while out?
QuoteSecond most common is your to far away from the physical world...
Lower yourself
How can I lower myself?
Thx for the answers! One more thing, is it possible for you to, lets say visit any place in the real world with our Astral body and correctly perceive it? I mean like going to New york and see the color of the T-shirt somebody is wearing?
Tom
"I don't understand what do you mean by actuly going out? You mean get more awareness while out? How can I get more consciousness while out? "
When you project you move your consciousness out of your physical body and put it into your astral body...
However... As most people... allthough they understand no harm will come to them they still leave some behind to help keep there body safe...
When you leave your body take all your consciousness with you...
You have to truely understand, and know no harm will come... and that your subconscious mind will keep your physical body alive and safe... if you understand that then you should be able to go compleatly out...
"How can I lower myself? "
Sorry, I cannot actuly help you there...
When I want to go higher or lower I just do it... I dont know how you would go about it... it's upto you to figure out... it not suposed to be hard
"is it possible for you to, lets say visit any place in the real world with our Astral body and correctly perceive it? I mean like going to New york and see the color of the T-shirt somebody is wearing?"
By you, you mean me personly? you a universal you?
Well, Doesnt matter realy... cause either way the answers yes...
it just takes alot of practice... for someone that cannot do it naturaly...
So we could set up a little experiment! That would be very easy then. We just fix a time we both go online, you travel to me with your Astralbody and I hold a object in my hand, then you write in the forum what it was and I tell you if you got it.
That would be cool! Will you try that?
Yes... It would be cool... And I would love to try it... However... It doesnt quite work like that, and I dont have the time to explain it all...
Theres a big problem going on in my life right now so... perhaps some other time we could try it...
It would be hard to meet each other because you have to had an OBE at the same time and that you will be in the same vibratory state.
The vibratory state is the amount of vibration you are getting in your physical body because of the chakra. Thats what can project you. If your not in the same vibratory state (or plane) you can't find him.
Quote from: AstralBornYes... It would be cool... And I would love to try it... However... It doesnt quite work like that, and I dont have the time to explain it all...
Theres a big problem going on in my life right now so... perhaps some other time we could try it...
ok, I wish you the best, and maybe later we can try.............
You need real luck if you want to try that.
Sepultura123,
"It would be hard to meet each other because you have to had an OBE at the same time and that you will be in the same vibratory state.
The vibratory state is the amount of vibration you are getting in your physical body because of the chakra. Thats what can project you. If your not in the same vibratory state (or plane) you can't find him. "
That is 100% not so...
You dont have to be in the same plane to meet each other...