Hi all,
Although I understand much more about dreaming and OBE related matters, I still have a very big problem that results in numerous other problems.
I have never been able to sleep properly in my entire life as far as I can remember.
The feeling like "being fresh in the morning" is unknown to me. I always feel like I have to recover FROM sleeping when I get up.
I am also a very light sleeper and on top of that, I have to pee constantly wich gets on my nerves and then it's even harder to fall asleep.
I'm looking for good tips for:
- falling asleep
- methods that improve deep sleeping
My roommate is someone that sleeps through everything. You can bang on his door, drop a bomb on his roof....he won't awaken. That's what I'd like as well.
I have noticed however, that it is important to let the subconsience mind overrule the consious mind so that the dreammind can take over.
I'm I correct? Please give me some good advice.
BTW: what about eating before sleeping? Some food can make me sleepy perhaps?
I've always kind of told myself how deep I want to sleep before I goto sleep and what time I should expect to get up, makes it a lot easier for me.
When I was young I used to be able to repeat to myself a few times before I went to bed what time I should get up and what time it is now, I'd wake up within about 5 minutes of the time I told myself.
Try spending a few minutes before going to sleep trying to tell your self that it's OK to sleep heavier.
Also, the more noise that you can hear when going to sleep you kind of get used to, when it is raised too much above that level you will likely wake up, try leaving the TV/radio on quietly or something and if you don't want it on all night set a timer (presuming it has one) to turn it off.
By the way, How many hours on average do you sleep a day?
Quote from: Stanz3k
>> I've always kind of told myself how deep I want to sleep before I goto sleep and what time I should expect to get up, makes it a lot easier for me.
That idea camed to me too. I'm going to try it more often
>> Also, the more noise that you can hear when going to sleep you kind of get used to, when it is raised too much above that level you will likely wake up, try leaving the TV/radio on quietly or something and if you don't want it on all night set a timer (presuming it has one) to turn it off.
Yes, I tried to sleep with some noise. For instance, I left my computer on with the hemisinc sounds but even that bothered the hell out of me. I did fall asleep but not better or faster then other times. Perhaps I need practise over this because it is better to have a constant curtain of sound that could shield me against outside noises indeed. I tried the same with the sound of an Aquarium-screensaver that has a bubbles-sound. THat was kind of relaxing. Perhaps I need to try that again first.
>> By the way, How many hours on average do you sleep a day?
I really can't tell because I wake up so much and have trouble to fall back asleep. Last night for instance, I thought it would be wise to go to bed early since I didn't feel too good. I went to bed about 22:00 u and woke up after one o'clock and didn't sleep anymore the whole night. Usually I plan to have at least eight or nine hours of sleep but I never really get it in full. Only in small installments, like 2 hours here, 2 hours awake, then 2 hours asleep, etc., and that doesn't make me feel good.
I also have to admit that I'm not good in routine. I need to have steady bedtime hours, but I'm living in a room with on one side neighbours with a normal day bio-rhytm, wich means they get out of bed around 7:00 with a lot of noise and on the other side, there's this guy who is usually up all night doing all sorts of things. This makes things even worse.
On the other hand, even when I still lived with my parents, who have normal bedtime hours (myself included back then), I had trouble sleeping as well. Like I said; I've always been a bad sleeper in any given situation.
So basically, I've tried a couple of things but nothing really seems to work.
I've tried medication and therapy but I guess I'm a difficult case 'cause the problem remains. Especially when I HAVE to get out of bed at a certain time. If I don't have any obligations, I'm more relaxed, but still don't sleep well as normal people do.
I don't seem to have a problem to relax my body however... It's a pure mental thing I guess...
BTW: My father is a plasterer. He has a tough physical job and is a great sleeper. He can nap anytime he wants too even when there's people talking in the same room. He said that all of his collegues are good sleepers as well. In his opinion, a man is made to do hard physical labour and that this contributes to good sleeping.
It sometimes takes me up to 40 mins to an hour to get to sleep, I just saw that as being me, you can't change everything about your self and I just put up with it.
As for waking up in the night...
It could be a lot of things, but the first thing that springs to mind is your diet..
First of all rich suggery foods including everything from coke to crisps (potato chips) will give you a short energy burst which is not too good for you, especially for sleeping.
Low amounts of sugar in foods such as fruits release energy over time, this is what you need.
In other words, before you go to sleep have a slice of toast with butter or a piece of fruit or something.
The only other thing I can think of is that it might just be quite natural with you, do you often feel very weak when you don't get enough sleep? Some people simply don't need as much sleep as others.
hope this helped.
Quote from: Stanz3kIt sometimes takes me up to 40 mins to an hour to get to sleep, I just saw that as being me, you can't change everything about your self and I just put up with it.
As for waking up in the night...
It could be a lot of things, but the first thing that springs to mind is your diet..
First of all rich suggery foods including everything from coke to crisps (potato chips) will give you a short energy burst which is not too good for you, especially for sleeping.
Low amounts of sugar in foods such as fruits release energy over time, this is what you need.
In other words, before you go to sleep have a slice of toast with butter or a piece of fruit or something.
The only other thing I can think of is that it might just be quite natural with you, do you often feel very weak when you don't get enough sleep? Some people simply don't need as much sleep as others.
hope this helped.
Thanks for your replies so far.
Well, I never eat unhealthy things like candy, or chips, coke, etc. But, I do eat meals whenever I feel like it, also before going to bed. However, if I DON"T do this, I don't sleep well neither.
I guess it couldn't hurt indeed to eat an aple or something like that.
Unfortunately, I think I do need to sleep more since I feel totally drained when it comes to energy. Even 5 hours of constant sleep would probably benefit me way more then lying in bed for 10 hours sleeping & waking up the way I do.
I think I'm going to try to undergo more sports routine and going to bed before 12 o clock and to practise sleeping with some noise too.
The damn thing is that the more interest I devellop about dreaming and OBE, the more I think about these matters when I have to sleep. This is also what keeps me awake, because I'm getting anxious about when exactly the dreamstate is kicking in etc.
BTW: if I don't reply for a couple of days, it's because I'm at home where I don't have internet.
Have you tried to sleep with ear-muffs(?) ? You know those little things you put into your ears, what quiet the sounds around you? I started to use them some months ago (because of noisy neighbors and light sleep) and they did wonders. Although sometimes it's hard to hear wake up call when they are in my ears.
About food: try to go sleep when your stomach is not very full, but when you don't feel hungry, either. Honey can help, and pepper-mint tea also. But if tea will cause you to wake up even more frequently to go to toilet, then it's not that good idea.
Shortly, if you love reading before sleeping then i suggest you to put ear-muffs into your ears, get some book (not very exiting book), and read until you feel pretty sleepy. Then go to sleep. Try to get some regular sleep time also. I believe that ear-muffs can help you with that. If your neighbor goes too noisy so even your ear-muffs don't help, try to talk with him about that.