reading while dreaming

truthbetold · July 11, 2006, 02:04:03

I can't read in any of my dreams can any one think of why this is?

James S · July 11, 2006, 04:02:27

We all dream in different ways that is in line with our mental makeup.

Some people dream in colour, some don't. Some people can read in dreams, some can't.

I don't know why this is so, I only know that it is so.

Blessings,
James.

Selski · July 11, 2006, 13:15:20

Hi truthbetold

I could be cocky and say that the reason you are unable to read in your dreams is because you can't read full stop? But I won't.

I am assuming that you can read, but not in your dreams. I think it's fairly common to not be able to read in dreams. I can't either. I can barely make out one letter in a word and that's pushing it.

Maybe there's a different technique of reading in our dreams, and because we are trying to do it physically, it isn't working?

Perhaps it's because we need the logical side of the brain to read (I can never remember whether it's the right or left) and perhaps that side is "asleep" when we dream, therefore we can't read. Numbers never stay the same either in my dreams. One second it's 7.30pm and when I look back, it's 10.55am.

Perhaps that's just letting me know that time is irrelevant/doesn't exist during dreams. Who knows.

I'm rambling.

Sarah

cainam_nazier · July 12, 2006, 03:46:38

Yes, it's true, you can't read while you are dreaming. That is because reading is an aspect of the logical mind while dreaming is an aspect of the creative mind. It's the whole right brain, left brain thing.

In normal dreams I can't read either. But I have noticed that I can look at some thing that is written and know what it says even though I can not make out any words. It's the same as being able to understand people in your dream that seem to be speaking a language you don't know.

However I have noticed that I can read just fine while in a lucid dream. I believe that this is because while in a lucid dream your conscious mind is active and there for both sides of the brain are working. Although unfortunately I also loose the ability to understand people who are speaking different languages. But that rarely happens while I am lucid anyway.

nwb · July 15, 2006, 08:07:33

Quote from: cainam_nazier on July 12, 2006, 03:46:38
Yes, it's true, you can't read while you are dreaming. That is because reading is an aspect of the logical mind while dreaming is an aspect of the creative mind. It's the whole right brain, left brain thing.

uhh are you sure? ive read in dreams more times then i can count, dont assume something you have no concrete evidence of! ill see a sentence and read it with NO problems, while dreaming yes, dont spill your false facts out on everyone please.

Nay · July 15, 2006, 13:57:02

Yeah, I've read plenty of times over the years. It is hard though and I've had to strain to read and to keep the memory of what I've read.

cainam_nazier · July 16, 2006, 15:32:06

The ability to read simply is not active in the artistic side of the brain that dreams are generated from. It is a matter of science. Give me a day or so and I will dig up the info.

I put to you these questions though. Are you absolutely, 100% sure that you were in fact reading while dreaming, and not simply getting the impression of the text but unable to make out one single word repeatedly? Were the words changing at all? As in you would have to make the attempt several time before actually getting anything out of it? And if you could in fact read are you sure you were just dreaming and not in a lucid dream?

When you simpley wake up and remember a dream you were just dreaming. But if you are actively thinking in your dream you are in a lucid state. It is the difference of remembering a dream and experiencing it.

truthbetold · July 16, 2006, 17:10:04

Usually when I try to read, what I am reading comes out in mumbles, it is like that is what is written, it doesn't actually make any sense.
Is it possible that when you do actually recognize what you are reading that it is actually memorized text so it appears that you are reading but you are only recalling some kind of memory?

Thanks for your help everyone.

Nay · July 16, 2006, 17:29:59

The ability to read simply is not active in the artistic side of the brain that dreams are generated from. It is a matter of science. Give me a day or so and I will dig up the info. THAT is why sometimes I get a little irritated by the whole science thing...the 'thinking' too much aspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm one for thinking into something...but...dang.

I put to you these questions though. Are you absolutely, 100% sure that you were in fact reading while dreaming, and not simply getting the impression of the text but unable to make out one single word repeatedly? I don't know what you mean about the repeatedly thing, so, I can't answer your question honestly.

Were the words changing at all? As in you would have to make the attempt several time before actually getting anything out of it? And if you could in fact read are you sure you were just dreaming and not in a lucid dream? They only seemed to change, in the fact that me staying there meant I would see them and I could read them better. I did have someone tell me once, "we shouldn't be here".. when I was trying to read a text of my pastlives.

When you simpley wake up and remember a dream you were just dreaming. But if you are actively thinking in your dream you are in a lucid state. It is the difference of remembering a dream and experiencing it. Excellent question! One I've asked over the last thirty years.

ParanoidAndroid · July 16, 2006, 20:34:41

The other night I had an odd dream that involved reading captions on a movie. I dreaming that I was trying to get a DVD to work and I couldn't get it to play. I finally got it to work and while I was watching at one point captions came up for the movie. It was one of the oddest dreams I have ever had. While "watching" The captions came up on the top and bottom of the screen and I could not make out the words. I believe it was like some letters were missing. In my dream I just thought that the DVD was messed up or something. Not that it helps anyone out just wanted to share

I wish I would have known I was dreaming.

nwb · July 17, 2006, 05:01:03

to answer your question, ive only had a few lucid dreams, i can tell the difference between an obe , lucid dream, and dream ... i am 100% sure that i have read in normal dreams...i am 100% sure that i dont just "think" ive read in dreams, that i actually see a word and i read it......usually in a dream ill read a lot of words , and they will just flow , and sometimes ill realize im reading and the words will stop flowing...which sucks....but i have had dreams where the words morph into some weird symbol or the words are just plain unreadable, but ive had MORE dreams where i read perfectly...so i dont know why this is or what causes being able to read normally in dreams, and then sometimes why the words are unreadable...

Nay · July 17, 2006, 18:52:52

Did you remember what you read?

James S · July 18, 2006, 02:50:01

Sorry, Cainam, gotta go with Nay on this one.

There's a HUGE ammount that the sciences cannot tell us yet about how our mind / brain works, and even less about the functions of our dreams. Oh, there are theories yes, but no one theory that can't be rejected by another theory.

So sciences aside, my own personal experiences are that I can and do definitely read in my dreams, as clearly as I read in my waking life.

Blessings,
James.

nwb · July 18, 2006, 11:00:10

yes james is right, science can kiss my butt, if science says reading is impossible in dreams, then we have a bunch of people here doing the impossible

Nay · July 18, 2006, 14:34:24

No need to be sorry that you agree with me James.

It is true, alot of people are doing it.

cainam_nazier · August 07, 2006, 03:23:29

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=870642

This site has the easist explination of what I was looking for. But read that. It is one of the reasons I asked if you were actually reading or not since the area of the brain responsible for making out the shapes and forms durring reading is not active.

However after doing some considerable looking around I found several places, mostly in book excerpts, mentioning that a it seems that a person can relearn how to read in dreams. However most of the time this is reported in people who also mention being aware durring thier dreams. There was also some mention about other higher learning functions being relearned durring dreaming. Most of these studies sited an overall increase in brain function for people reporting being aware durring dreams and being able to read, write, and do things like math durring thier dreams.

The Present Moment · August 07, 2006, 04:07:48

I get both kinds. Sometimes the lettering is just a bunch of abstract shapes, numbers, or random letters. In other dreams I can read fine.

Last night I was reading a sports page from the newspaper. For some reason I couldn't make out the year, but I could read the date -- December 12th. Navy beat Army.

nwb · August 10, 2006, 01:34:34

going on further what cainam said, i have once written down words on a piece of paper in an obe, it was a real weird obe but i remember just looking down at a piece of paper and i would write things down and then other beings would also write down on the piece of paper and its like we were talking in a chat room but on a piece of paper

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