Back Stories in LDs

[Lumaza]

 I was curious how many of you experience these "back stories" in your LDs/Dreams?

A back story to me is when you become aware in a Dream and seem to know the ""history" of your character. It's almost like you had read a "script" before the Dream scenario had begun.

Case in point. this morning I was in a LD. I became aware I was in some woman's home, surrounded by her husband and Family members.

Somehow I knew that we had a history together. I knew that I had met her many years previous to this time. I had been travelling on the road via the Carnival when I was younger and had met this beautiful woman. We had a brief little "tryst". Every year after that when I came to her town, I met up with her again. Even though she was in relationship during my visits to her town, she still met me and had me stay over at her home. This had went on for many years.

She married 4 times and had 5 beautiful girls from those marriages. Currently, she was living happily with her 4th husband. 1 of her Husbands died in the Military. 2 were real jerks and the man she was now with was a fantastic guy. I had known him also for a few years now.

As usual, we would sit around and reminisce. When she and I were alone, she would go back to playing her "flirtatious game" that we always seemed to share in. It was innocent though. Also as usual, I would go to their game room with just the husband and we would play darts. I told him this time around "That the reason I always loved this woman was that she showed so much Love for her kids" During the years I had known her, there were many times that she struggled in life. But she always made sure her children were safe and taken care of, even if she wasn't herself. Her kids grew up to be beautiful. strong and loving ladies, just like their Mother was.

So, I knew all this, but all I experienced in this scenario was being there, wherever there was, sharing friendship with them and talking to the husband. Everything else came through some weird sense of just "knowing". I have never met this lady, her girls or her husband in my physical reality here. I have never been to that town, her home or any of that.

Years ago, while younger in the Carnival, I did travel quite a bit and because of that, I did have a "special someone" in many of those areas I went to. We would meet, have fun together, never a physical relationship, at least in the first year. But, then every year when I returned, we would automatically continue from where we left off. Many times, I would be met at the Fairgrounds upon arriving there and I would stay for the duration of that Fair at their homes, whether they were in a relationship or not. Our friendship would be long lasting. Like I said though, many times a "physical relationship" wasn't part of the equation.

I asked you about these "back story" scenarios/simulations because through the years, I have experienced many of them. Normally they come during a "Hero scenario" and who knows, this may have still indirectly been some kind of "Retrieval" or Hero experience. Once again, so many questions!  

At no time in these scenarios ever told of the "history" of the experience. I just seem to "know" what I need to know about it. Like I said, it's as if I am an actor in some kind of skit and have read a script beforehand!  

Experiences like this have made me a huge proponent of "Parallel Universes". I could see this as a different path in life, fork in the road, per se, from the current path I am on now. It seems to fit the "mold".

[Nameless]

I like this topic! I read it last night and decided to wait a bit before responding. Glad I did. Early this morning I experienced one of these only I am sure I have experienced parts of this life in many other LDs/Projections.

I'm living in a very nice cozy neighborhood with my family which are recognizable as the family I have now. My husband is still alive but we are roughly the same ages as now. We are gathered on our front porch just hanging out. Our neighbor, his name is Buzz is just pulling into his driveway towing a trailer with an old motorcycle he just acquired. We flip out bc the motorcycle is a very unique antique. Motorcycles in this reality are not exactly like what we know. Anyway my husband is tripping out and tells me to go look. So me and my son walk over to admire the cycle. Buzz also has a small cigar boat being delivered on a trailer and the boat brings back memories.

I remember the how my husband and I used to talk about finding a couple of these old bikes and touring the country when we retired. (Something we both also considered in this life). I also remember a time before I met my husband and had a career working on a huge scientific ocean liner. I remembered a daring escape from the liner on a small boat similar to the neighbors and the ensuing rescue. Bitter sweet memories of another life.

The rest of dream turned a bit nightmarish and I won't go into details but even in that life I lost my husband. I woke up with all kinds of mixed feelings. Grateful for the sweetness and incredibly heartbroken over losing him again. But the point is that was a whole life independent and separate from this one and yet...

Parallel Universe describes this so much better than re-incarnation, at least in my mind. So Lumaza you feel it as a 'knowing' while I feel it as a 'memory'. Hmm.

[LightBeam]

That's very interesting. Many of my dreams involve family and friends that I already know and my dream character knows the history, yet some unusual things happen often that do not happen in this line of reality. Of course in dreams we are not aware of pour present life otherwise we would question, wait, my uncle is not a doctor LOL, but we don't question, so I too think these may be glimpses of parallel realities of which I totally believe, probabilities, etc. Dr. Michio Kaku also talks about how physicists can almost prove the existence of parallel realities where you can take so many different paths based of=n different decisions. Even if you simply miss a bus in one reality but catch it in another and meet someone on that bus that will maybe become your future spouse, yet in the one you missed the bus you may never get married. Probable realities totally exist.
My dream characters never question the scenarios no matter how unusual they may seem. I have had dreams with people I don't know here, yet my dream character does not question who they are, just go along with the scenario. I don't know if my dream character knows so much of the background tough of other people, just acting in the moment. So, I would say not in this kind of depth, but again never question anything in dream state. If I become aware, then things turn quickly into AP and I know exactly who I am and start questioning, what is happening here, so I often get away from the dream scenario if I think it's boring and go about my own explorations.

Your dreams Lumaza and Nameless seem organized with stream of events that make sense, so that may be glimpses of probable realities. Some of my dreams are bots and pieces that don't make sense when I wake up, but I am sure this is how my subconsciousness translates them sometimes. They are very symbolic as well.

[Nameless]

You make good points LB. Some of my experiences are filled out with random characters seeming to just be there to fill space. In those some of the people are friends and family I do recognize whether in this timeline or another.

Interestingly in the one above and a few others I have had there are very few if any bots or blank characters. What's even more interesting is that some of my family members really do (in this timeline) also share these same dreams and timelines. I remember once talking to my husband, just general talk and I brought up something I thought was interesting and he said he remembered that and then he said Wait, that's not right, I think that was a dream and then he tells me this dream he had (which for him was very rare) and I tell him yeah that's where I got the idea. Should have seen the look on his face, lol. All I could tell him was I was there and he had to think about that because to him it was his dream so how could I.., but I had it too.

I would say these are outside of the test/learning type experiences which tend to be full of empty characters, weirdness and mind games. These ones tend to be full, on-going and real in every sense. And I often know within the experience that I have this 'other' life (meaning this one). Like this one, I had every sense of this reality and that one with no conflict, at least till I woke up realizing I was back here.

[EscapeVelocity]

Okay, first a thank you to Lumaza for introducing this topic and what has been shared thus far. I have had these 'dreams' sporadically over many years and I must admit that they are some of the more baffling ones. So I will share some short and incomplete thoughts-

I agree with Nameless that they are a different category of dream/experience...maybe it's a minor thing, but then again, maybe it's more of a major difference; I'm still uncertain.

Like LightBeam, I notice the definite symbolic quality of these experiences. And in that sense, I wonder if they are part of the more mundane 'housecleaning' class of dream, but in this case, our family/friend relationships are being repositioned and re-examined from alternative character arrangements in order to express and likely decompress the tensions of our current PR relationships. Both Lumaza and Nameless describe nearly identical aspects (the Carnival life/the cross-country motorcycle ride) of their PR relationships that are expressed within these dreams. I remember similar aspects of my own.

I have had these dreams also, and am somewhat confused by them. For me, they are nearly always sandwiched in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th REM periods, so they are almost always clouded and confused by other dreams/experiences, either before or after. I can't remember being able to come awake and write one down with any kind of atm memory.

Another thing that each of you mentioned- these dreams have a definite and different quality of FEEL to them as even compared to Simulations, Retrievals and other complex experiences. These 'back stories' have a noticeably different feel or quality than nearly anything else. And I think it is the emotional and relational quality that distinctly catches and keeps my attention in them. Another aspect, at least in most of mine, is that there is little action involved; so that seems to allow even more time and mental space to notice the emotional/relational qualities involved in each experience. So maybe it is just another decompression function of our subconscious.

Then again, maybe it is an expression of a 'crossover' relational energy that bridges lives in parallel realities- or both, also being an energy expression discharge that inadvertently sometimes offers a 'peek' into that other reality. Again, the lack of action or the need of a situation to be resolved seems apparent in mine; so the idea of a moment of 'nostalgic memory' and emotional expression makes sense...but maybe that still involves 'conduiting' into and through parallel realities. A sigh or a cry in one reality may lead to a similar expression within another...

You guys make me think way too much...

And thank you for that!

[Lumaza]

I like this topic! I read it last night and decided to wait a bit before responding. Glad I did. Early this morning I experienced one of these only I am sure I have experienced parts of this life in many other LDs/Projections.

I'm living in a very nice cozy neighborhood with my family which are recognizable as the family I have now. My husband is still alive but we are roughly the same ages as now. We are gathered on our front porch just hanging out. Our neighbor, his name is Buzz is just pulling into his driveway towing a trailer with an old motorcycle he just acquired. We flip out bc the motorcycle is a very unique antique. Motorcycles in this reality are not exactly like what we know. Anyway my husband is tripping out and tells me to go look. So me and my son walk over to admire the cycle. Buzz also has a small cigar boat being delivered on a trailer and the boat brings back memories.

I remember the how my husband and I used to talk about finding a couple of these old bikes and touring the country when we retired. (Something we both also considered in this life). I also remember a time before I met my husband and had a career working on a huge scientific ocean liner. I remembered a daring escape from the liner on a small boat similar to the neighbors and the ensuing rescue. Bitter sweet memories of another life.

The rest of dream turned a bit nightmarish and I won't go into details but even in that life I lost my husband. I woke up with all kinds of mixed feelings. Grateful for the sweetness and incredibly heartbroken over losing him again. But the point is that was a whole life independent and separate from this one and yet...

Parallel Universe describes this so much better than re-incarnation, at least in my mind. So Lumaza you feel it as a 'knowing' while I feel it as a 'memory'. Hmm.

Once again, another thing that we seem to share here.

I also feel it was a "memory". The sense of "knowing" was too strong not to be. I don't really liken it to "re-incarnation" either. The fact that it could have been a "split timeline" seems to fit the bill here. We seem to have our timelines fork out when we come to major decisions in our lives.

[Lumaza]

Dr. Michio Kaku also talks about how physicists can almost prove the existence of parallel realities where you can take so many different paths based of=n different decisions. Even if you simply miss a bus in one reality but catch it in another and meet someone on that bus that will maybe become your future spouse, yet in the one you missed the bus you may never get married. Probable realities totally exist.

I wish all those "naysayers" would experience things like this. It would change their view on everything they currently believe. But then again, maybe that's why they don't "consciously" experience these things.

My dream characters never question the scenarios no matter how unusual they may seem. I have had dreams with people I don't know here, yet my dream character does not question who they are, just go along with the scenario. I don't know if my dream character knows so much of the background tough of other people, just acting in the moment. So, I would say not in this kind of depth, but again never question anything in dream state. If I become aware, then things turn quickly into AP and I know exactly who I am and start questioning, what is happening here, so I often get away from the dream scenario if I think it's boring and go about my own explorations.

I have those experiences as well. But I have learned to passively observe everything first and I don't like to change the "narrative" of the experience. I feel if I am experiencing it, there must be a reason for it! 

Your dreams Lumaza and Nameless seem organized with stream of events that make sense, so that may be glimpses of probable realities. Some of my dreams are bots and pieces that don't make sense when I wake up, but I am sure this is how my subconsciousness translates them sometimes. They are very symbolic as well.

Like I said, not all my experiences follow that pattern.

I agree, It's just a shame that the meaning sometimes gets lost in that translation. Even symbols don't always hold the answers we look for. But, our "Higher Self" and the "Others" in charge certainly do like to use them!   

[Lumaza]

I agree with Nameless that they are a different category of dream/experience...maybe it's a minor thing, but then again, maybe it's more of a major difference; I'm still uncertain.

Yes, I stated a few years ago that through the really trying times of my Trigeminal Neuralgia bouts, I learned the Art of Dream Yoga and because of that, I stayed aware well into the Dream cycles. I got to see how our Dreams indeed are "compartmentalized".

Like LightBeam, I notice the definite symbolic quality of these experiences. And in that sense, I wonder if they are part of the more mundane 'housecleaning' class of dream, but in this case, our family/friend relationships are being repositioned and re-examined from alternative character arrangements in order to express and likely decompress the tensions of our current PR relationships.

Not only do I see those "symbols" But I can't tell you when the last time was that I actually saw a person's mouth moving in one of my Dreams. I never try to see it. But I also can't remember seeing anyone actually "talking" at all.

I have had these dreams also, and am somewhat confused by them. For me, they are nearly always sandwiched in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th REM periods, so they are almost always clouded and confused by other dreams/experiences, either before or after. I can't remember being able to come awake and write one down with any kind of atm memory.

That sounds about right from what I saw as well. There is a lot of "mish mashing" going on between those different Dream cycles as well.

Another thing that each of you mentioned- these dreams have a definite and different quality of FEEL to them as even compared to Simulations, Retrievals and other complex experiences. These 'back stories' have a noticeably different feel or quality than nearly anything else. And I think it is the emotional and relational quality that distinctly catches and keeps my attention in them. Another aspect, at least in most of mine, is that there is little action involved; so that seems to allow even more time and mental space to notice the emotional/relational qualities involved in each experience. So maybe it is just another decompression function of our subconscious.

They do indeed have a different "feeling' to them. That's why not only is the recall excellent but they also give you something to ponder throughout the following day and even longer.

Then again, maybe it is an expression of a 'crossover' relational energy that bridges lives in parallel realities- or both, also being an energy expression discharge that inadvertently sometimes offers a 'peek' into that other reality. Again, the lack of action or the need of a situation to be resolved seems apparent in mine; so the idea of a moment of 'nostalgic memory' and emotional expression makes sense...but maybe that still involves 'conduiting' into and through parallel realities. A sigh or a cry in one reality may lead to a similar expression within another...

Whoosh!   That went right over my head. I will just nod now and say yes!  

You guys make me think way too much...

And thank you for that!

Your calling the kettle black now!  

[Nameless]

Your calling the kettle black now! 

LOL

"maybe it is an expression of a 'crossover' relational energy that bridges lives in parallel realities" <--- THIS EV

I actually had a thought like this once while in one of these alternate life dreams. Which reminds me of something I came across randomly lately. Can't remember where but reading some internet material by psychologist/hypnotist  that had found an interesting correlation between these 'parallel lives' and the timing of death or near death experiences. They were rambling about the possibility that the reason some people hang on so long when they are on their death bed is that they are waiting for their 'counterparts' in other realities as she/he thought perhaps all parts return to source/wherever at roughly the same time.

[Lumaza]

LOL

"maybe it is an expression of a 'crossover' relational energy that bridges lives in parallel realities" <--- THIS EV

Yes, tis he!  

I actually had a thought like this once while in one of these alternate life dreams. Which reminds me of something I came across randomly lately. Can't remember where but reading some internet material by psychologist/hypnotist  that had found an interesting correlation between these 'parallel lives' and the timing of death or near death experiences. They were rambling about the possibility that the reason some people hang on so long when they are on their death bed is that they are waiting for their 'counterparts' in other realities as she/he thought perhaps all parts return to source/wherever at roughly the same time.

As the late great Colonel Kilnk from Hogan's Heroes used to say, "very interesting". You have to use his voice full effect there, lol!   Oops, I just really showed my age!  

[EscapeVelocity]

We keep somehow advancing the discussion...each of us, in some way providing breadcrumb clues that another picks up and uses to send the group further along...what a wonderful and mysterious enterprise!

Lumaza...yes, I've always felt a part Hogan, Klink and Sergeant Schultz...not sure entirely which. LoL.

Nameless, I'm gratified that phrase made sense to you because it felt almost channeled by me...language begins to fail at certain times. I know you know...

I have had similar insights within these particular dreams, but they are so elusive in remembering, because they feel so deeply imbedded within. I think it is remarkable that you remembered that Nameless! They are not like normal dreams,; they seem much more tightly confined in a sense, the realizations and insights seem much more restricted and within narrow confines.

Parallel counterpart lives and the timing of deaths...wow, that does make immediate sense on a deep level!

Again...thinking...mindcrush...aaarghh...

[Nameless]

LOL, so here we go happily down the rabbit hole, you first Ev, I'll hang back and maybe give Lu  and LB a push before jumping in myself. You know, soft landing and all that Hahahaha

So if we are living parallel lives and our dreams connect us to those lives it would make sense for all those parallels to have similar timing. And it would give us a hint as to why not all our experiences have this same quality. I think we have all had experiences where we find ourselves seemingly further in the future or further in the past where the exp has the feel of a test or quest or schooling and so on. That difference might give us a clue that these are indeed parallels directly pertaining to ourselves. They are unchangeable. Whereas the other exp are larger than us, they are changeable/malleable. Okay I'm just rambling out loud here, feel free to step in with megahorn or some duct tape anytime...

[LightBeam]

I just read that Stephen Hawking also supported the parallelly universes theory. So, it really is mind boggling when you take the countless you of the parallel worlds that make every possible decision at every point of time of existence as that character. Then take the different reincarnation characters that are also countless (humans at different time eras, different species of countless planets, in other realities on all kinds of vibrational levels). Then take these countless characters' countless parallels, and so on and so forth. Then the higher spirits in its entirety is a very very complicated entity, that at this time we cant possibly fathom.
However, I believe each line of reality has certain connections to a few others, not all, because they are countless, but a few that have similarities in schooling plans. I think this is where some dreams show us. APs as well, or simply feelings, just like mine a while ago with going to an Indian grocery store, smelling all the spices flooded my mind with distant memories of another life as an Indian person. That was quite a strong feeling. So, I am happy that the connections are always here, we can draw knowledge from one you to another you, or multiples. If we know where to look, we will find what we are searching for. On the other hand so many speak of the Akashic records. I have not experienced that, but if this exist, and I am certain it does, then we can draw knowledge from the Big Pool, if you will either consciously or subconsciously. And this is exciting. After all, we are not so confined as we perceive on the surface.

[Lumaza]

I just read that Stephen Hawking also supported the parallelly universes theory. So, it really is mind boggling when you take the countless you of the parallel worlds that make every possible decision at every point of time of existence as that character. Then take the different reincarnation characters that are also countless (humans at different time eras, different species of countless planets, in other realities on all kinds of vibrational levels). Then take these countless characters' countless parallels, and so on and so forth. Then the higher spirits in its entirety is a very very complicated entity, that at this time we cant possibly fathom.
However, I believe each line of reality has certain connections to a few others, not all, because they are countless, but a few that have similarities in schooling plans. I think this is where some dreams show us. APs as well, or simply feelings, just like mine a while ago with going to an Indian grocery store, smelling all the spices flooded my mind with distant memories of another life as an Indian person. That was quite a strong feeling. So, I am happy that the connections are always here, we can draw knowledge from one you to another you, or multiples. If we know where to look, we will find what we are searching for. On the other hand so many speak of the Akashic records. I have not experienced that, but if this exist, and I am certain it does, then we can draw knowledge from the Big Pool, if you will either consciously or subconsciously. And this is exciting. After all, we are not so confined as we perceive on the surface.

I agree with all of that Lightbeam!  

Not only did Stephen Hawkings believe in the existence of Parallel Universes, he and Dr, Michio Kaku both believed, based on Ancient knowledge, understandings and teachings, that Earth was once part of a 11th Dimensional reality. Dr. Kaku spoke about that on his Radio show last year. They both believed that we had been "dumbed down" through the years.

[Nameless]

Man, I miss these great discussions! I feel like I've really dumbed-down since this.

[Kodemaster]

With you in solidarity as I try and re-learn my lost knowledge.