Wow.. what a coincidence.
I joined this board because I wanted to respond to this inquiry. I am wondering about the same thing. Can two people dream share?
I think I may have dream shared with someone but can't quite tell. It's a gut feeling I have but one can never be too sure without hard evidence.
Any advice on this?? HELP!
Blissful
I'm new at this, but I heard that when you're dreaming someone, that you did share dream with him, but he doesn't remember. But it depends, i think that it can be only virtual reality that your brain created in some cases.
Lenny,
When I first read of this subject, I was fascinated by it. I take a guess it's yes to all your questions. Afterall, if you think about it, isn't waking life alot of common and shared experiences?
I read somewhere that a shared dream may happen when two people are connected and a shared dream would benefit both in someway by the message. This makes sense to me.
Bissful,
A gut feeling is the same as an intuitive feel. Hard evidence is the same as manifested in the waking world. Both these things require some interpretation. There is such a thing as wishful thinking too.
Querty,
If the other person doesn't relate to your experience, this may be an example of wishful dreaming. A person in your dream could be an aspect of yourself your seeing in the other one.
Yes, I have read many reports of shared dreams. IF you are an accomplished lucid dreamer or OOBEr, all you need is someone else who is also accomplished.
Though time is theoretically nonlinear or nonexistant in higher worlds, it helps considerably to focus your energies by deciding on a mutual agreed on time and place to 'meet'. Once in a lucid or OBE state, call out to your partner with your mind.
Always keep notes when you awaken, to compare later.
"http://www.geocities.com/lucidmetro/courseweekthree.htm#WEEK%20THREE"
When you consider our interconnectedness and actual oneness, the possibilities raised by this topic are in actuality quite real. There are books by people such as Bruce Moen, for example, who have observed people in the non-physical realms, who are dreaming. Yet these dreamers are interacting with one another in their dream state.
The fact is that most people do not remember a great deal after awakening. It seems quite possible though, that were both people to share a dream experience and both remember it, then they would relate similar themes.
Very best,
About 20 years ago I was really into learning how to produce lucid dreams and learned how to navigate pretty good. The love of my life (at that time) had to go to a different state during spring break. I was a senior in high school.
We agreed to go into our dream that night and try to find each other. We tried every day for a week, this is what happened.
We only found each other three times, and it was as real as if we were together. In the dreams we agreed to remember the dream the next day after we woke up and to call each other on the phone. When I would call her we would discuss the dream and found that we had the exact same experiences. Since I was skeptical by nature I would ask her about the dream she had before divulging any information about mine. I needed proof that it was real and not just her agreeing with whatever I told her.
It was real, and we had the same experience. I have only tried it that one time.
Thelou
Wisp: I don't think this is the case of wishful thinking. I have been studying dreams and have been interpreting for years. I also have lucid dreams and once almost OBE due to a lucid dream. I find the experience of shared dreaming very fascinating but I wouldn't say the events have been wishful at all.
TheLou: What an experience you had. You actually shared a dream with a friend. I hope to experience this someday myself. You are a perfect example of this actually happening. Please continue to share your experiences in this thread.
Blissful
very interesting. i have always wondered if you could talk to a real person in a dream. i believe it is totally true. how do i know? because a few years ago i had a dream where i was lucid, i had no idea what that meant back then, but i must have been lucid because i was talking to this girl, and she was talking back, we had a real conversation, about stuff, i actually didnt want the dream to end.
for me, when i dream usually people dont talk to me, its like i know what they are thinking, and i know what they are gona do and say, so speach is not needed. HOWEVER once i was lucid i began talking to her, and she talked back...i asked her if she was a real person dreaming and she said YES.
also a few weeks ago, i was dreaming, and realized it. so i started taling to this girl, and i said "wow hey this is tripy, i know im dreaming" something like that..
anyone else have any experiences like this?
Thanks Blissful,
Well its funny because a few months ago I had my first lucid dream since back then. It is sort of the reason I decided to get "back into" this stuff. Having 2-3 in one night, 3-4 nights a week now.
In my dream I was back in school, not lucid yet though. Then I ran across this girl I had a major crush on back then.[:D] We did the ususal "hi" thing. Then something weird happened. It was like some kind of energy thing reach out from each of our hear chakras and pulled us together. That is when I became lucid that it was a dream. I viewed it third party at that moment. It was amazing. The feeling of pure unconditional love was very strong and real. We started to make love. It was more realistic than the real world. When we finished I woke up and thought about the dream. For days after it was like it really happened.
Remembering what happened with my high school girlfriend back then, I could not help but wonder if she drempt it also, because it was so real. I felt like it had really happened.
Writing this has brought another question to my mind. Most of the time, (say80%) when I have a lucid dream I view it third party. Like watching it from someone else's perspective. Does that ever happen to anyone else?[8)]
THE LOU SAID: Remembering what happened with my high school girlfriend back then, I could not help but wonder if she drempt it also, because it was so real. I felt like it had really happened.
Writing this has brought another question to my mind. Most of the time, (say80%) when I have a lucid dream I view it third party. Like watching it from someone else's perspective. Does that ever happen to anyone else?
I SAY: Yes, I have been watching my dreams in third person most of the time. It's like watching a movie. Now, I'd rather be a part of it rather than watching. AND, can you call your high school sweetie and just say hi how are you doing? See if she says "Oh my gosh I was just thinking about you" or maybe it's been a while and the days have passed since that dream. That's what I would have done.
The person that's been in my dreams isn't someone I can call up and say hi to. I only know this person because we have similiar interests and we hang out with people with these interests but I don't know him personally. He's actually very hard to reach but the few times we caught each others eyes it's been real intense (NOT SEXUAL AT ALL.. NOT IN THAT WAY) Intense like we both might know something about each other but don't know how... that sort of thing. He appears in my dreams fairly often but not all the time. He appears every now and again. Of all my dreams, I'm starting to question whether this is telepathic or a dream sharing situation, as the dreams really feel that way upon waking. It's quite strange but the possibility of that actually being the case is sooo DYNAMIC AND FASCINATING!! It's taking my experiences with dreams to a whole new level (and one that I'm ready for).
Blissful,
Your original message stated:
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Any advice on this?? HELP!
I then stated my thoughts on a "possible". Beware of your own motives.
Wisp: Beware of my own motives?
I don't understand what you mean. Please explain.
Blissful
Hi Blissful,
It seems that a person who is at peace with what their doing would not ask for Help. Since learning of other person's ability to control their dreams, I've wondered about the effect. I read people who have repeated nightmares or dreams not wanted, are advised to control their dreams. If this is a possibilty, and I've read continuously about this in this forum, what can happen? One of the things I've come to believe is that we can interject alot of our own beliefs and ideas (true or false) in our dreams. I look for this in my own dreams. During my waking time I am very aware of my true motives and intentions. In my dreams, though very subtle, there are falsehoods. These may be innocent or calculated, this I'm not yet so sure about. Either way, there is a wish fullfilment aspect in dreams. Wishdreams may serve a purpose, but really doesn't go anywhere in the big picture of one's life. Maybe that's why I'm not too much into creating my own dream scenerios. For me, life is very much a single journey.This does not necessarily mean it's everyone's. However, in waking life, many people have codependency issues. This is something which may play out in dreams, I'm only suggesting caution.
Sorry Blissful, I didn't mean to through off your train of thought. You asked for help, I thought you were distressed about something. I was throwing in another prospective to the shared dream idea.[:)]
Wisp Said: Sorry Blissful, I didn't mean to through off your train of thought. You asked for help, I thought you were distressed about something. I was throwing in another prospective to the shared dream idea.
I say: Oh Wisp, thank you very much for your concern. Me saying Help wasn't necessarily a "cry for help" just wanting to relate to others who may have these experiences (as you've read on this board there are). I'm very up to speed on dreams, particularly wish fullfillment, I can totally tell when I have one of those dreams. I'm also a lucid dreamer and have had one OOBE, now I think I may be experiening dream sharing. I can get a ton of information on Lucidity and OBE but not much by the way of dream sharing and telephathy unfortunately. I think it's a beautiful experience and it, beyond all things, makes me truly see that we CAN and DO live in two different "reality" worlds (and heck.. maybe even more than that). So, don't apologize, I appreciate you even reading my issue and responding. I enjoy reading what conclusions people might come up with (knowledge of the subject) or experiences that they've had. I'm almost convinced mine is dream sharing (based on all my experiences) but yet I don't see too many others going through the same thing. Only a handful. hmmmmmf
Blessed be...
Blissful
Blissful,
Re: Your accidental posting of a new subject. You can delete your posted message by going to the icon(top of page) at the site of your messaged post. I think you have to email a moderator to remove the new subject accidently posted. I haven't had to do that, so I'm not sure about how to remove a new topic.
Your right, there are not a lot of people who have shared dream experiences. If I happen across anything, I'll try to get you some more info. If you have been interpreting your own dreams for some time, I'm sure you have much of the intuition that is picked up by it.Good hunting on your quest. [:)]
Hi Wisp and all
Recently I have been working on WILDs and its going good, however I am having some problem understanding the nature and experience. It seems that the dreams I enter are my own. Sort of a creation. I may be dreaming of someone while they are awake and therefore it would not be a shared dream. However sometimes it seems that some of the people I meet are very much more real than others. It seems that they have entered MY dreams. Who are they and why do they do that?
If it is possible to share dreams , and it seems plausible, then certain conditions must exist first, ( first one being that both should be asleep [;)])
What are thise conditions.? I also asked RB what to do in my Lucid dreams, and was counselled to think in ways of healing , praying for world peace etc, however since my dreas are my creations how about using them to work through issues. Is that possible being Lucid?
Regards MS
Hi Mustardseed,
This is a good subject, and some very good questions. The people in dreams is something I look at closely. This is very challenging. I had a couple of dream people who have appeared in dreams before, show up again recently. The reason I'm so interested in these two repeaters is that my life took an odd and rough turn since they showed up. I've been thinking of posting a description of these two dreams with these two in it. One of them was seen while I was waking up in the middle of the night. The other was in a regular dream,the woman said something that could be connected to what I was yet to find out in my waking life.Either or both could be my aspect, I'm just not sure yet. I'm still trying to fit the pieces together. The popular other opinions is that they are spirit guides or angels.
It seems to be quite rare to connect a person in your dreams with another person, but why not? Anything is possible. By recording (and remembering dreams) I pay attention to waking life events that may connect with someone I have dreamed about.
Here is a link on mutual dreaming. I read it a long time ago.I need to read it again.
http://members.aol.com/dreampsi/archive/mutualdreaming.html
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What are thise conditions.? I also asked RB what to do in my Lucid dreams, and was counselled to think in ways of healing , praying for world peace etc, however since my dreas are my creations how about using them to work through issues. Is that possible being Lucid?
I'm not aware of any conditions. I don't see anything wrong searching with the intention of self improvement.I think anything is possible, not restricted to lucid, or even the fact the other person may not be sleeping, if that's what you mean, MS. People have waking visions,synchronicity,and even moments of subconscious activity in waking time, why put a restriction on whether anyone is physically sleeping?
I had a dream a couple days ago that my wife said to me if it were not for me and the kids she would have gotten a visa and made a world trip. I told her about this dream the next day and she said amazed "that is exactly what I was thinking". Unfortunately she does not write down her dreams but I suspect that when I dream with her in it that she could really be in it. It would therefore seem to be the best thing to do to try to share dreams with one's spouse as the emotional ties and interests are just so close and you could agree on it so much easier without making any complications in relationships and check the facts later upon waking up. Hey this could even improve the marriage love life considerably![:D]
QuoteOriginally posted by wisp
It seems to be quite rare to connect a person in your dreams with another person, but why not? Anything is possible. By recording (and remembering dreams) I pay attention to waking life events that may connect with someone I have dreamed about.
Hey Wisp:
Oh my goodness, that is so helpful. I record 90% of my dreams and YES, some waking life events have connected with my dream events (and they involve the person I think I'm dream sharing with).
Incredible. So simple how come I didn't think of that.
Now, as for me being rare, well yes that's possible (I say that with a sense of humor).
Thanks for the thought and the website.
Blissful
Hi Blissful
It does sound strange, but sometimes truth can be much stranger than fiction. If two people are connected at a very close level...maybe family, spouse, soulmate or whatever-it can happen (more than just once by coincidence).
My advice is...if you identify that you are doing this, make sure the other person is open to dreams and "unnatural connections". If not...you might just freak them right out![:D]
Hi Blissful,
You and others have talked about OOBE and OBE. You just talked about both in the same paragraph. At first I thought it was just two different ways to say the same thing. You know, tomato, tamato? Is there a difference between OOBE and OBE? What does the second "O" stand for?
Thanks,
thelou
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Originally posted by thelou
Hi Blissful,
You and others have talked about OOBE and OBE. You just talked about both in the same paragraph. At first I thought it was just two different ways to say the same thing. You know, tomato, tamato? Is there a difference between OOBE and OBE? What does the second "O" stand for?
Thanks,
thelou
Thelou, it's the same thing (oobe and obe) it's just a typo on my part.
And yes, one has to be EXTREMELY careful when sharing these things cause you can freak someone out!! I'll be cool and wait to see if the "sign" are there before speaking.
Blissful
Have you tried to contact this person using telepathy (calling their name)?
Have you ever received a telepathic message? If so, how did this message appear to you?
Why don't your use you lucid dreaming or telepathy to get them to the website? That would be a good sign...wouldn't it?
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Originally posted by fisherman32
Have you tried to contact this person using telepathy (calling their name)?
Have you ever received a telepathic message? If so, how did this message appear to you?
Why don't your use you lucid dreaming or telepathy to get them to the website? That would be a good sign...wouldn't it?
No, I'm only under the suspicion of dream sharing at this point. When I had my first WILD I tried to reach him but my excitement woke me up. I have been lucid but am trying to use that time for other things. I will eventually do that though. I'm trying to take this adventure slowly.
Blissful
Blissful,
This may sound goofy to you, but you have the strongest psi vibe that I have yet to pick up on. I really don't think you realize what you have yet. I have nothing to quantify that statement, but I am usually a pretty good judge of talent. If your co-worker is your "Soul Mate/Friend" he will have the same level of talent. You would make quite the couple! lol
Make sure you keep your dreams to yourself so you can find out for sure.
Good luck with your adventure!
galactisurfer,
Excellent! You give me fresh hope that there are great relationships out there. [:)] That's the way it should be.
Blissful,
Glad I could be of some help. [:)]
Mustardseed,
If it means anything, I haven't remembered a dream since the 15th of last month (and barely anything then). I'm losing something.But again, I'm gaining something too.I've been dealing with a mysterious arm pain problem. I'm on the road to cure. It seems it must be a totally unconscious healing. It didn't take a turn for the better until I said a prayer. I'm getting my confidence back.And...I'm beginning to fear my dreams a bit. I had a couple of scary ones (the last two)! Hope things are going well for you, don't be a stranger.[:)]
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/real.html
Hey people. This might be long, but I think it's cool.
I posted a reply in the topic about flying in a lucid dream. I told about my experience with a friend. We were in the same dream, and both remembered it. I am sure that I was not in my own room, and neither was he. When I think of the place, it seemed to be above a park in the village I live. Some kind of watercolored and orange sphere, that stood for our contact and everything we communicated about. I know this cause, inside of that sphere, the energy was so thick that I only had to focus on my second chakra, the center, just a little and I would levitate my body. My friend, Jordan, was watching closely and understood what I was showing him by feeling what I felt. We communicated by feeling. Like the way the moment feels when you completely understand someone and you say something exactly together.
Then Jordan also knew how to fly in his dreams. But the energy in this world was so thick that I lost focus of this world and got a little in to nightmarestate cause I got scared cause I thought I was breathing in water. I remember very clearly that the more I got scared, the more I got pushed out of the sphere. Untill eventually I noticed myself being sucked into my own dreamworld, which felt like waking up. My own world more of a red sphere, as if it was the aura of my rootchakra. I really saw myself laying in bed and it was as if I was dreaming so clear, that I was awake and there was just nothing to dream about. And then I woke up. Remembering my dream very clearly.
The next day I was talking to Jordan on the messenger, and just told me he had the weirdest dream, which felt like I was really in it. You were teaching me how to fly he said. And I was like yeah, and I immediately understood the whole thing. So I tald him he was wearing a darkred shirt. Well anyway everything we saw matched. He even told me that I was suddenly gone.
It was no coincedence that we met in our dream, because we had been together the whole evenening before. We had been out, danced, drank and relaxed, so we practically felt the same way.
I believe the teaching how to fly had something to do with showing my friend in reality something he never understood, a way of relaxed. That's what I think that flying symbolises. Being able to relax or feel free in somekind of situation.
Another thing that I was think of was that by doing the same thing, doing something fun, made us completely process and forget the daily issues you normally dream about. Which I have found to be stored in the rootchakra. Obviously we had nothing more to dream about, so our consciousness landed in the second chakra, the lower dan tien. Which is orange, just like the energy in shared world.
Okay sorry it's so long, but I just had to completely tell.
Tell me what U think.
Interesting, tro-flow. The base or root chakra is known to be connected with earth and possibly earth connections.Emotions seem to play a role in connections with others as well.
I like your ideas. It's challenging when moving onto the next chakra, for me anyway.[:)]
Very challenging.
I found out that the root charka is like our lightningconductor. It passes any kind of tension, any not rhythmic, or painfull vibrations on to the earth.
In plants the root chakra lies just beneath the surface. Atleast that's what I see when 'look' at the chakra's of plants. Only we have extension to it, which are those channels in the legs.
But what would you think would happen if you were to enter the dreamworld of the realitychakra, the 6th. Would you be be some kind of Neo? Or would that be the crown, the 7th. Or would you then be a god?
tro-flow,
I can identify with what your saying about the root chakra. It keeps me busy. [:)]
I'm having to deal with my arms lately. It has to do with the heart chakra, this is a tough one to learn.
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But what would you think would happen if you were to enter the dreamworld of the realitychakra, the 6th. Would you be be some kind of Neo? Or would that be the crown, the 7th. Or would you then be a god?
What's a Neo? [:)]
I'm still figuring out how the circuitry works.
I believe in God, so I don't worry too much about becoming one.[:)]I do believe empowerment is important.
This may be a shared dream. After a spell of no dream recall,I had this one.
Can't remember the first part of the dream. It did involve being in vivid green fields. Things were good in the dream.The part I remember better is I'm in this same field,I'm sitting on this edge or cliff overlooking another vivid green field. This field is in a dip or lower portion. I see a little dark haired boy down there. I take my right hand and reach down to him. He takes my hand.My hand has a bandage on it. The boy is pulled up. The boy said, "I want to kill myself." During this dream at various times I was thinking about taking out my portable flying machine for a ride over the town. This flying device was familiar from other dreams I have had. Hadn't recorded any such thing, so it is a fresh new memory I just retrieved. The time between being in the green fields and being at the valley-type green area, a darkness fell. I remember it was getting too late to take my flying machine up. A new day must have dawned just before pulling the boy up, because I was thinking of taking my flying machine up again. End of dream.
I had mentioned in another post somewhere that I had discovered one morning, my aura coming from the top of my real life son.This happened as I awoke. So I don't know if this is connected with this present dream. The thing is, my son in real life had a bandage on his right hand at the time.In the dream, I had the bandage on. I know my son is having a difficult time with life in general right now. His bandage was from some damage he did to himself when he hit his fist into some things a few days before, while angry and frustrated.
hey,
i was wondering, in dreams, if we talk to people we know, are they experienceing the same dream? can people actually share the same dream, or be in the same dream and interperet it differently? what do you think?