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Jace

thanks again for all the good advice.  To answer one of your questions, re: what makes me become scared, thus leading to hyperventilation.  
From what I can remember, I suddenly realize that I cannot "get out", so to speak, of this dream world which I can control.  Furthermore, unconsciously, I must remember those types of SP occurances and because of that the difficulty in breathing becomes almost definite, because I have them everytime.  So my mind resorts to this breathing problem which is futher enhanced by some presence I feel when I can't wake up.  A feeling of, "if i don't wake up, somethings gonna get me".  Obviously, its all in my mind.  Now its just a matter of convincing myself that things will ok, I just need to focus on moving a finger or something.  All your advice/suggestions will come in very handy.   peace

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Yeah, the presence is a common thing for most people who have SP (or so it seems). I've only had it a few times. Twice had things freak me out, wanting to break out of because of that. Of those two, I was completely confused and out of it because I was having hypnop-somthing-or-other hallucinations at the same time. The only time you can deal with it is when you are able to think straight and can defy the presence or convince yourself that it doesn't exist at all.

Yeah, the shallow breathing is kind of strange. I think, usually at the time, that the effects and the paralysis itself is neat and I try to either mess with any hallucinations or see how long I can stay in it, because thinking about it too much will cue your brain in that you are awake. But, when it freaks me out, I try to jump out of it as fast as I can, if I am aware enough to think straight.

I think the presence may be a side-effect from your mind still working on the dream in the background (as if it really does this still at this point, I haven't a clue).  It might be because your subconsious is actively doing things at the same time that you are awake, or because of the temporary memory that you have from dreams existing as you are awake (which confuses you if it doesn't disappear while you are waking up and trying to figure out where you are/what you set the alarm for/trying to figure out if you can hit the snooze and still get up in time).

If it makes sense, then I've done good. If not, then at least I know what I'm talking about.

Also, are you looking for tips on how to break out or how to convince yourself that the presence doesn't exist or what?
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Kazbadan

I heard so many people speaking on the presence that i believe thats not a presence , only your senses amplified.

For example, many people speak about bad noises. If you get attention you will see that the bad noises are just normal noises amplified. Maybe its something similar with the "presence".
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