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fowlskins

Last nights dream was kind of lucid I was playing a game where me and a old work colleague were taking it in turns to make markings on a wall
On his turn he held my hand and completely vanished when he reappeared he was now an old guy that I just priced a job for and I was saying don't you see you can't turn invisible in real life this is just a dream
I kept pointing out dream signs to him and you suddenly saw the realisation on his face
I told him to study the plants and see how vivid they look
And I told him to jump up and fly which he did
But when I tried to do all these things I couldn't my awareness didn't seem high enough I was watching someone else achive lucidity but I didn't 100% twig myself

Xanth

HAHA I love those confusing experiences.  :)

You had, in my opinion, a really low lucid awareness... almost not though, since while you were doing things you know you can do in a dream, you didn't really sound like you noticed that you WERE non-physical. 

Really fun though.  :)

fowlskins

yep totally agree on the cusp but still not quite there

Tak

It's fun when that happens! I also think that you were only one step away from becoming fully aware... you were very close!

Sometimes similar things happen to me and it's very funny, for example, I know I'm dreaming, I start flying, manipulating environments or doing different things that I like to do in dreams, but I say that I'm doing that because I have to practice to have lucid dreams in future, as if at that moment I was not having one and it was just a "simulation"!

Another thing that usually happens to me is flying and moving objects at will, but I think that is completely real and that I am just developing humanity's hidden powers, such as levitation and telekinesis. At that moment I want to convince others to try it too, but no one feels interested. Or when objects disappear I attribute it to a paranormal phenomenon. The only thing that makes me realize in those kinds of moments that I am projecting in some way is when my body is not solid and I go through objects or I can't grab them  :roll: 

It was very close! You will be successful next time.
.~Exploring the Wonders of Consciousness~.

EscapeVelocity

#4
This is where our Non-Physical experiences begin to change in more significant ways. We expect, at this point, to just fly around when we want to, walk through walls, explore our local neighborhood or go zipping about the Cosmos as we see fit. Well, there is a certain amount of that freedom, but to an increasing degree our NP experiences now become somewhat more down to earth and more narrowly-focused on events and thoughts right in front of us- take for example your experience fowlskins.

Like Tak mentioned, this definitely does read like a 'simulation'- a Non-Physical learning environment designed just for the one person. Call it what you will: an AP, an OBE, a Phasing, a dream or lucid dream, whatever; the key is, it is a personal learning energetic environment designed to teach you something. The trick to realizing this is when you attempt to apply your Intent/Will to change something and the environment resists. You try to levitate, fly, change the surroundings and you can't. That is the subtle warning to NOT disrupt the teaching environment and to relax and just go with the flow- which means just go with the presented storyline.

(I know that both fowlskins and Tak know this to varying degrees; I am just edifying this for others)

But...being stubborn humans and having recently realized the use of Intent/Will, at this stage we often pound our heads against the wall repeatedly demanding our Intent be fulfilled and experienced...this most often results in repeated, frustrating failures up to the point the simulation is terminated. And we return to physical focus wondering what could have possibly gone wrong. In my own case, after a hundred or so failures, I slowly learned to back off and acquiesce to the plotline or storyline and not try to force my will upon it. And this led to longer, deeper experiences, but the understanding was not necessarily always there; a broader context was needed. That was where the Pulse came in, and older, more experienced and wider opinions could be offered and considered. As it turned out, many others had already experienced the nearly exact situations I had been dealing with, and could offer intriguing insights; some insights, I took on immediately, others needed time to consider.

Back to fowlskins experience- Notice that the dream storyline/plot was already running as you became aware. (that is often a sign that a simulation is already running-not always, but something to keep in mind) Your friend vanishing/reappearing as a recent Physical-Reality customer was likely designed to boost your lucid awareness, which it seemed to do, as you pointed out to him 'this is just a dream'. Then you pointed out other dream signs until you saw the realization in his face (which also likely bumped up your awareness another notch). Then, despite your seeming low lucidity, you suggested your friend study the plants and notice the vivid colors. That is you coaxing your NP friend to take his awareness up still another notch! Nice!

fowlskins- you should meditate on this experience, ask one simple question at a time (silently/internally) and wait a minute for an answer, before moving on to the next. Ask what this experience was supposed to teach you and 'feel' how your intuition responds. Despite feeling only partially lucid, notice just how well and cognitive your non-lucid Self operated...we recognize this as the development of the Second or Non-Physical Personality. It is a very interesting phenomenon to
start becoming aware of. Was your friend in the experience possibly an Instructor/Teacher? Something to consider...

As I found out years ago, in many simulations, it will feel as if you are only semi-lucid. And this will be true in many cases. It will be a condition of the simulation. You may be challenged to increase your lucidity or your awareness may be subdued, reduced or limited as part of the conditions of the challenge. You simply feel dumbed-down, as if your natural IQ has been reduced by some 50%. Part of the learning process is to recognize it and learn when and when not to struggle; the other part may be for NP Instructors to observe how we operate at this level, possibly our more instinctive level. This form of learning becomes very intriguing, but is also quite challenging! There definitely seems to be both a short form to it, like the one described by fowlskins, but also long form versions that can play out either through a simulation storyline or through what are possibly composite experiences of both personal astral experiences intermixed with testing/instruction/learning. And from my perspective, even if the longer, deeper experiences happen...the shorter and often confusing daily quiz/pop quiz kinds of reduced awareness dream simulations have still not ended; in fact, for me over the last couple years, new elements have been introduced which confound me to no end...except to realize that this...these short-form, reduced-awareness, semi-lucid dreams are an excellent instructional format...like a daily NP crossword puzzle Haiku download...go think about that for the next day (Wow! that was a little bit of a channel, lol)...the short form, I don't even probably need to mention an example; we all have them almost nightly- if we engage our thinking at the right level, we get them...they are short, initially-confusing, semi-lucid dreaming conversations...I don't think they are mental pollution or happen by accident...we are expected to consider them. I would expect that everyone here knows this short-form of internal communication or has had some kind of recognizable encounter with it.

Here is a longer form that spoke directly to me on this issue of reduced awareness, the most significant at the time.
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-astral-projection-experiences!/grass-gravel-and-an-old-friend/

That was 2014. I learned a few years later that my friend JS passed in 2017 at age 55. I suspected his ongoing depression, among other issues, so the timing and circumstance of the visitation still make me wonder. Beyond even that is the way, in this experience, knowledge may have found a path to be imparted...this adds yet to my own personal mystery of all this sheer wonder we encounter.


My point in all this, other than imparting (my) general knowledge and perspective on these matters is to notice and reflect on how your awareness, thinking, and cognition are changing on multiple levels...including while you are SUPPOSEDLY asleep! And the fact that it is changing, developing, increasing! And it will continue, so encourage it! Good luck and have fun!

Good experience!

EV

Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
                                                          -O. Wilde

fowlskins

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on March 24, 2024, 23:20:11This is where our Non-Physical experiences begin to change in more significant ways. We expect, at this point, to just fly around when we want to, walk through walls, explore our local neighborhood or go zipping about the Cosmos as we see fit. Well, there is a certain amount of that freedom, but to an increasing degree our NP experiences now become somewhat more down to earth and more narrowly-focused on events and thoughts right in front of us- take for example your experience fowlskins.

Like Tak mentioned, this definitely does read like a 'simulation'- a Non-Physical learning environment designed just for the one person. Call it what you will: an AP, an OBE, a Phasing, a dream or lucid dream, whatever; the key is, it is a personal learning energetic environment designed to teach you something. The trick to realizing this is when you attempt to apply your Intent/Will to change something and the environment resists. You try to levitate, fly, change the surroundings and you can't. That is the subtle warning to NOT disrupt the teaching environment and to relax and just go with the flow- which means just go with the presented storyline.

(I know that both fowlskins and Tak know this to varying degrees; I am just edifying this for others)

But...being stubborn humans and having recently realized the use of Intent/Will, at this stage we often pound our heads against the wall repeatedly demanding our Intent be fulfilled and experienced...this most often results in repeated, frustrating failures up to the point the simulation is terminated. And we return to physical focus wondering what could have possibly gone wrong. In my own case, after a hundred or so failures, I slowly learned to back off and acquiesce to the plotline or storyline and not try to force my will upon it. And this led to longer, deeper experiences, but the understanding was not necessarily always there; a broader context was needed. That was where the Pulse came in, and older, more experienced and wider opinions could be offered and considered. As it turned out, many others had already experienced the nearly exact situations I had been dealing with, and could offer intriguing insights; some insights, I took on immediately, others needed time to consider.

Back to fowlskins experience- Notice that the dream storyline/plot was already running as you became aware. (that is often a sign that a simulation is already running-not always, but something to keep in mind) Your friend vanishing/reappearing as a recent Physical-Reality customer was likely designed to boost your lucid awareness, which it seemed to do, as you pointed out to him 'this is just a dream'. Then you pointed out other dream signs until you saw the realization in his face (which also likely bumped up your awareness another notch). Then, despite your seeming low lucidity, you suggested your friend study the plants and notice the vivid colors. That is you coaxing your NP friend to take his awareness up still another notch! Nice!

fowlskins- you should meditate on this experience, ask one simple question at a time (silently/internally) and wait a minute for an answer, before moving on to the next. Ask what this experience was supposed to teach you and 'feel' how your intuition responds. Despite feeling only partially lucid, notice just how well and cognitive your non-lucid Self operated...we recognize this as the development of the Second or Non-Physical Personality. It is a very interesting phenomenon to
start becoming aware of. Was your friend in the experience possibly an Instructor/Teacher? Something to consider...

As I found out years ago, in many simulations, it will feel as if you are only semi-lucid. And this will be true in many cases. It will be a condition of the simulation. You may be challenged to increase your lucidity or your awareness may be subdued, reduced or limited as part of the conditions of the challenge. You simply feel dumbed-down, as if your natural IQ has been reduced by some 50%. Part of the learning process is to recognize it and learn when and when not to struggle; the other part may be for NP Instructors to observe how we operate at this level, possibly our more instinctive level. This form of learning becomes very intriguing, but is also quite challenging! There definitely seems to be both a short form to it, like the one described by fowlskins, but also long form versions that can play out either through a simulation storyline or through what are possibly composite experiences of both personal astral experiences intermixed with testing/instruction/learning. And from my perspective, even if the longer, deeper experiences happen...the shorter and often confusing daily quiz/pop quiz kinds of reduced awareness dream simulations have still not ended; in fact, for me over the last couple years, new elements have been introduced which confound me to no end...except to realize that this...these short-form, reduced-awareness, semi-lucid dreams are an excellent instructional format...like a daily NP crossword puzzle Haiku download...go think about that for the next day (Wow! that was a little bit of a channel, lol)...the short form, I don't even probably need to mention an example; we all have them almost nightly- if we engage our thinking at the right level, we get them...they are short, initially-confusing, semi-lucid dreaming conversations...I don't think they are mental pollution or happen by accident...we are expected to consider them. I would expect that everyone here knows this short-form of internal communication or has had some kind of recognizable encounter with it.

Here is a longer form that spoke directly to me on this issue of reduced awareness, the most significant at the time.
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-astral-projection-experiences!/grass-gravel-and-an-old-friend/

That was 2014. I learned a few years later that my friend JS passed in 2017 at age 55. I suspected his ongoing depression, among other issues, so the timing and circumstance of the visitation still make me wonder. Beyond even that is the way, in this experience, knowledge may have found a path to be imparted...this adds yet to my own personal mystery of all this sheer wonder we encounter.


My point in all this, other than imparting (my) general knowledge and perspective on these matters is to notice and reflect on how your awareness, thinking, and cognition are changing on multiple levels...including while you are SUPPOSEDLY asleep! And the fact that it is changing, developing, increasing! And it will continue, so encourage it! Good luck and have fun!

Good experience!

EV


this is why i love the pulse so much
thankyou EV the fact that you can take a short little post like mine and feed back so much quality information and alternative ways to look at a experience is truly amazing and greatly received

ive just remembered another detail now thinking back to the trying to fly and not being able to i can remember the ground becoming bouncy and me getting a little more height so i think my awareness was defiantly rising but i wasnt forcing it my main focus was on helping the dream character to have an experience and that was giving me great pleasure i was mostly just playing along with the dream narrative

EscapeVelocity

#6
You are welcome fowlskins. That was an insightful experience that deserved and opened a significant commentary into a multitude of ideas. Hope it is helpful to everyone.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
                                                          -O. Wilde