WILD OR Astral Projection

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Hello Spencer,

  Something I use regularly is a deck of cards.  Place one card, without looking at it, somewhere at the path you will travel when projected. Like near the window, make sure it's hidden from view so you won't see it from anywhere except when you get to the card. Also make sure where the card sits, there is enough ambient light to see the card.  

The odds of you dreaming the correct card are almost impossible. If you see the card and when you check later it turns out to be wrong, you we're probably dreaming, in my experience, a true OBE will prove to be correct every time, make sure you see the number and suit of the card.  

          Happy Traveling!

     Nightflier...

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Forgot to mention::

  Some people click out or lose consciousness after a period of time when out of the body. They either consciously go to sleep and don't remember anything that happens after that, or the subconscious takes over the obe and produces a dream memory for the conscious.  So look at the card before you leave the room, not when returning...

               Nightflier...

[Spencer]

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Nightflier,

  Thanks for the input.  You shed alot of light on a subject that I have been perplexed over for some time.  I will the cards tonight. Lately, like you said I seem to be clicking out of the OOBE.  I don't remember making a conscious re entering into the body.  Once again thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spencer]

I hope that somebody can help me out with what has been transpiring lately.  Getting to the trance method is no problem, but the trance stage has been about as far as I can get.  Instead, I started setting my alarm clock about 2 hours prior to getting up.  The alarm goes off and I read for about thirty minutes and then go back to sleep.  The vibrations come, I roll over out of my body and fly out the window.  I have become used to the feeling of the vibrations now and when thy come roll over and start my journeys.  Lately I have been questioning the authenticity of my projections.  Am I projecting or am I just waliking into a lucid dream?  There have been times when I have ended up at my Dad's house and have been talking to him.  It would be ok if he was dead, but he isn't dead yet.  So I tend to question, was I dreaming or projecting?  Everytime I get up out of my body, it is very difficult to see.  I ask for clarity but nothing happens.  I have to ask for clarity about three of four times before anyting happens.  Once I fly out my window, my vision tends to be  crystal clear, but I am always in a place that I don't recognize.  I have read Buhlman's book Adventures out of the Body, and he always left while he was asleep.  I seem to identify with the things that he says. But then I question him as well, was he just lucid dreaming as well.  He never did any chakra work or energy work.

        I hope some one can shed some light, I'm really confused.  I hope that all my projections haven't been lucid dreams.  I also have to ask myself, does it really matter if I had a lucid dream or projected.


               Cheers,
               Spencer