The Moon

[c0sm0nautt]

My dreams tend to get more power than usual during moon related events. Today I meditated on the moon and I expect an interesting night. The "super moon" has the Moon closest to the Earth in nearly two decades.

During the most recent lunar eclipse a few months back I had this intense dream. I was observing the eclipse in my dream when my consciousness shot towards the moon in wormhole fashion. I found myself in this hyper-dimensional environment in which words will do no justice. The colors and geometry were morphing and transforming... it was intense and beautiful. We don't have any comparison in physical reality.  

I wish you all an interesting night as well.

[personalreality]

hyperdimensional/tetrahedral physics, look it up.  i think that is the key to understanding astrology, the effects of other bodies in the solar system, galaxy and universe.

[Stillwater]

Definitely.

The moon is supposed to appear 19% larger than usual or some such as a result an optical illusion as well, today.

Funny that I had never heard of this kind of event until a week before it happened, lol.

[c0sm0nautt]

hyperdimensional/tetrahedral physics, look it up.  i think that is the key to understanding astrology, the effects of other bodies in the solar system, galaxy and universe.

This fella David Wilcock has some interesting ideas dealing with a dodecahedron being at the basis of the Earths energy, which corresponds with ley lines and the great pyramids, etc.

Last night was a very intense/emotional night of dreaming for myself. Anyone else? 

[Stillwater]

This fella David Wilcock has some interesting ideas dealing with a dodecahedron being at the basis of the Earths energy, which corresponds with ley lines and the great pyramids, etc.

Haha... you need to be careful with Wilcock, lol. He is really open to a lot of far out ideas, but he does not discriminate in what he takes on and believes. If you follow him closely enough, you begin to see he is one of those that thinks that HAARP stations are at the root of illuminati plots, and that there are actual working stargates allowing people to travel though space and time. Not impossible, but really out there, and he never really cites his sources for the crazy stuff, so you are just left to believe it on faith, lol. You really need to maintain healthy skepticism with him, just like Icke.

[Astral316]

A couple nights ago I projected from a dream, becoming lucid while staring at a full moon in my backyard. Looking forward to tonight myself, though... I've been meditating a lot more than usual today in anticipation.

[personalreality]

I don't disagree stillwater.

But at the same time, the way we handle scientific inquiry these days doesn't really provide much for faith.  So the fact that some authors don't cite sources doesn't always discourage me.  For example, a lot of Icke's moon theories come from that African guy (Credo) and how do you cite anecdotal evidence besides saying "this guy told me this"?  

What I have noticed is that the really good authors acknowledge when their theory is entirely speculative.  Like Joseph P. Farrell (who incidentally has proposed a theory about space-nazis that have been living in a space colony since WWII) who wrote a trilogy about the Pyramids at Giza being a giant deathstar-esque weapon in ancient times.  He flat out says at the beginning of each book that this is just a hypothesis, it's not even supported with enough concrete evidence to be a theory.  He says that his evidence is circumstantial and his hypothesis is entirely speculative.  But, that doesn't mean its not true, and more importantly that questions like this shouldn't be asked (even when lacking "concrete scientific" evidence).  

It is a balancing act though.  It takes a sharp mind to understand the subtle attitudes in these works and understand when the author is just proposing a speculative thought experiment versus a hard-science proposal.

[Stillwater]

For example, a lot of Icke's moon theories come from that African guy (Credo) and how do you cite anecdotal evidence besides saying "this guy told me this"?

That part is true, and taking Icke on faith, and taking it on faith that his African contact knows what he is talking about is about the same thing, with no other supporting evidence; it is different when you present other people's ideas without ever stating where they came from, though. It is a very different thing to be quoting a sufi you met in Istanbul, and a physicist you know in Cambridge; one of them is not necessarily more credible than the other, but when you are dealing with stuff as potentially out there as Icke and Wilcock do, you should tell people where the information is coming from. There are countless times when Wilcock is quoting from a certain document, and does not bother to provide a copy of this document, or even how he came to possess it. There is also a lot that I think is pure speculation on Wilcock's part, and he doesn't bother to draw a declared line between what he has sources for and what he is coming up with himself. These guys are teaching people that you should not have blind faith in established social institutions, which is a good thing, but you can't trade blind faith in governments and churches and the established scientific community for blind faith in their exposure of these groups.

On topic here though... somehow it wouldn't surprise me if the Apollo missions really did reveal moonbases. The thing that forces governments to tell the truth is media exposure- you can't lie as easily when there are 14 odd guys with cameras watching it happen. When only a couple people are there, though, and the matter is of revolutionary importance... stuff like that tends to stay secret. I can easily believe it is possible that there were alien structures on the dark side of the moon, since if they were found, they would not have told us anyhow, and no one would be in a position to force them to.

Like Joseph P. Farrell (who incidentally has proposed a theory about space-nazis that have been living in a space colony since WWII)

Haha- I should look that up. Where do the space-nazis live, by chance?

[c0sm0nautt]

Yea, you have to take it all with a grain of salt. Wilcock's ideas are pretty far out, but so is the idea of leaving you body.  I try not to believe anything other than my own experience. I like to entertain* Wilcock's ideas. I've been following him ideas for quite a few years now. He has a new book coming out in the fall, The Source Field Investigations, in which he claims to reference hundreds of sources.

[Stillwater]

I like to entertain* Wilcock's ideas.

Yes- precisely.