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[warlockyoshi]

Another way is holy water of course.  It is really easy to make all you need is Blessed ash, sea salt and purified water.  and then you consecrate it.  Do you know someone who is possessed or are you just curious?  I've heard that if you die on the astral plane then you die in real life therefore(this is just a theory)if you are possessed on the astral plane you will be possessed in real life as well.

[warlockyoshi]

I don't know but I don't believe that you can imprision a demon in a crystal (like on Diablo) but hell i guess it could be possible.  I also believe it impossible to completly rid the wourld of negs.

[Tarconiss]

From personal experience on neg removal or atleast with negative energy, useing the NEW method that Robert Bruce came up with, i've been able to deter something long enough, to let myself get healthy enough [ to get more energy back, from being sick because of the thing] so that i was able to push it away with enough strength to break most of the connections it had to me, over a period of a few weeks.

I also have come up with a method of my own, when it comes to removeing negative energy, in the form of random urges of hate/murder/ and flareing tempers of people inside of a room... It may not be all to safe for myself.... but i think thati can handle it for the most part, without too much repriocution [ spelling? ].

on a one on one encounter with a person, i ask if they'd like me to help them with getting rid of that bad feeling... Sometimes i get stared at oddly, without responce for a little while, then they either say 'sure' or ' i should be alright on my own ' or something along either of those lines... with some other people they know that im into energy and things, and they allow me to help them without hassle... / with groups of people i just kindof do the process without asking.

The process: [single person] I have me and the person link hands, kindof like in the game 'Mercy', and i ask the person to just try and focus to push all of the bad feelings that they are haveing out through thier hands... My part of it, includes me pulling and drawing in the energy that i asked them to push out, through my hands. With some of the people, the bad energy they give off, only fill up a portion of my arms, and/or chest area... With those who have a lot stronger presence of that negative energy, my entire body could be glazed over with that negative feeling, being seperate from my own energy. Anyhow, After about a minute or two of this, [ I've had various responces from 'it helped a little'  from  ' Holy -insert swear here -...... how the hell did you do that?'. This method with me has worked every time I've done it, even if I only did help a person a little. Afterwards i try to walk over to an open area, or an empty area or something, and push the energy back out as best as i can, so that its not aimed at anyone.

[Multiple people, in seperate groups]: With this, I've only been in the situation twice, where i felt need to get the groups calm... I just ended up takeing a firm grounding stance, and i just took a deep breath, let it out to relax my nerves, and with my hands outwards i just..... useing an beyond-body awareness [ in the sense of pulling on something useing body awareness on something that is outside my physical body ] I 'pull' on the energy and air around to group toward myself, drawing in all of the negative emotions, in an attempt to get the group. With the two times that i've done it... It worked to the extent that the groups began to calm down about things, and settle down, after a bit..... But doing this, tends to leave me shakeing slightly, because of mybody fighting within itself from the negative energy, so i just jogged over to an area that was mostly closed off and apart from a main area, so that i could  let out a  large scream, pushing out as much  of the negative energy as i can, in a  direction thats  not pointing toward anyone.

I try not to point it at other  people because, well..... its bad.... and the energy being pushed at people  would  most  likely end up causeing problems for the other people...

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I like the fact that running water really does help with dispersing and weakening negative energies.... i also feel the same about garlic.

[neg removal5]

Hi Tarconiss and warlockyoshi

  I'm glad some people are talking about these issues.  Is that how the Catholics make Holy water, or is that how certain other people make Holy water?  Can Holy water be made in more than one way?  
    That is an interesting concept someone helping someone by absorbing the negative energy out of their body, and then dispelling it into the air.  Have you ever been able to force a negative entity out of a person who wanted it out.  I'm not talking about negative energy, I'm talking about an actual negative entity or negative being of some sort.  If you have can you describe the experience, and whether the being moved into you, or whether it just moved out of the person back into the spiritual realm.
    You're right it might be difficult to eventually get rid of or imprison all negative and harmful entities in the spiritual realm, but if we ever develop the technology we ought to try to get as many of them as we can.
    Do either of you know of any ways for detecting if a neg is attached to a person in some way using either some kind of an electrical device or some kind of photographic type equipment?
    Well anyway if you know any people who might have some answers or ideas on any of the questions that cover this topic, please have them give their input or ideas.

[Tarconiss]

Unless someone is doing an exorcism, either sanctified by the Catholic church, or by someone else who has experience with doing non-christian exorcisms, it is increadibly difficult to 'push' a Neg out of someones body... over time and with certain focus, useing the method i have used, one  can drain a Neg of  most of its energy, to a point where it will either escape on its own, or useing a method of removal, one can rid a person of that neg.....

I have a friend who had a either a seperate sub-ego built up inside of him, or it was an actual Neg, inside of him. Every once in a while he would blank out, and 'it' would take over his body, and do destructive things, and steal/absorb other peoples energies. It had its own persona and it had dark intentions. Well, one of the days when he came to my workplace [ which just happeneds to be a club type music hall, and i was off-duty for the rest of that night ], him,  me and a few other friends were hanging out. Me and him are both into energy things, and he wanted to do an energy transfer with me. I was happy to try it out,  because i enjoy doing small practices with my friends, that are interested in metaphysics. Well, we went  along and did the transfer, and told me i had given him one of the largest energy rushes, he'd experienced from the people he's done that with. I was  pleased to hear that... later on, i noticed that he was meditating by one of the walls, where we were earlier... i sat down, and i noticed a difference in the air, about him, and i could tell it wasnt, completely him, as he was sitting there.... I had sat down in front of him, and he opened his eyes, and he spoke with a change in his voice, telling me, it was, the being who had been a part of him. Then he told me he was 'hungry'. I knew what 'he' meant by that, and i held out my hand for him to take grasp. I pumped a decent amount of energy into 'him' sending a mental/telepathic message with it too, declareing that if he hurt or gave trouble to my friend in any way, that i would flat out destroy it. I'm protective of my friends and of things i hold dear. After i stopped sending him energy, and the message, he quickly withdrew himself, and my friend shook his head, and  just  asked me what had happened, and how long he was out for. I told him that 'it' came out, and gave it some energy, not saying anything  about the  message. The next time i had seen my friend, he had asked my, what i had really did,  because he told me, that the being was scared of me. Thats when i told him about the message.. He said it worked for the most part, in keeping it in check. A few months later,  that friend had told  me that the being had 'integrated' with himself, and that it wouldnt bother anyone, anymore.

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As to other ways of detecting the presence...  Some people have the ability to sense energy, after working with it for some time.. I'm building up on  that ability, personally. But beyond that, with those who can feel energy, some can detect the  difference between negative energy and positive energy. When a person has a  neg attached to them, or more than one, i can usually feel it slightly. Those people who have negs attached, if you get to know a little bit about thier history, you can also figure out if they've been under particular circumstances wich may be benificial to neg attachment. Plus most of the time if you ask those people, if they have consistant pain or annoyance with a certain part of thier body[ wich maybecaused bytheneg], they will probobly answer, confirming that hunch, and explain thier experience about it.... then again i also have a way with letting people  feel  comfortable with talking about these kinds of things.

But yeah... People can have a sense of energy, wich could trigger and let a person know, who may have a neg in them.

[neg removal5]

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