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Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: J.K. on January 31, 2005, 11:20:57
Here's the one from last night..   :)

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I'm at my home and there are Indian (the country) children there.  In the dream, I'm me but very young (about 12) and my physical characteristics are none that are familar to me.  In other words, I'm another person but still me - if that makes any sense.

I want to talk to one particular little indian girl or rather she wants to talk to me.  I imagine it's both ways for it seems there is a childhood crush there going on between the two of us.  We walk away from the house just a little bit and sit down - preparing to talk, when along comes an elder of hers.  - He's pretty angry that we've wandered so far away from the house.  He doesn't like the idea of me being round the little girl.  I become aware there is going to be a confrontation. - At that point somehow he manages in a karate like fashion to kick my left leg - but it doesn't hurt.  And ironically, instead of his foot loosing contact with my left leg after the kick it doesn't.  My leg is just now kinda resting on top of his foot while his leg is extended in the air.

He "flicks" my left leg 9 times with his foot.  It's some kinda special move or someting and after he does that my left leg goes numb.  I can barely walk.  - When I find I can though I begin walking back toward the house.  Once there I see he's following me and I find that between the two of us there is one of those long orange electical cords.

Somehow, I do something to the electircal cord and he can not pass it.  Doing so would electricute him.  But he finds the plug and unplugs the dang thing.  Upon him doing this - somehow - I find another electrical cord and do the same thing to it - which creates a barrier between us that he can not pass.

I start to run into my house.  When I do I find that a large tree sitting in the front yard has set afire and is blazing intensely. -

I run into my home.

I think it's got someting to do with kundalini as I studied about that quite a bit yesterday.  (tree of life - set afire)..  :roll:
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: Telos on January 31, 2005, 12:17:23
Interesting. I've never heard of that "tree set afire" description of kundalini before. That might shed some light on a dream I had just a few days ago.

It is kind of similar to yours, in that I was near my home, with a young girl, and there were flaming trees. If it helps, I'll share it.

QuoteI was walking towards the backyard of my house, when I noticed someone setting two of our trees on fire. She took the form of a girl I admired in high school, and guided me into my house to see a friend of hers, who was a doctor. I was to have a "check up" on my "progress."

While I stood in front of him, the doctor used a long, narrow but strong brace to hold my neck up. It was just a very simple bendable and flexible rod. When I look back on it, yes, it was reminiscent of a snake. It went down my sternum, pushing against it. It had the effect like that of opening up my windpipe. He put his fingers on my neck.

"Is there something wrong with my neck?" I asked.

"Why, do you feel something?" he responded, still focused on his work.

"It's just that I've had that area checked before... for thyroid problems." While in high school, I had mono, but the same symptoms could've been caused by thyroid dysfunction.

"Thyroid problems?" He was startled and looked me in the eye. "What kind of thyroid problem?"

"Inflammation," I said.

I don't remember much after that. On waking up, I thought it might have been a dream warning me about the possibility that I have an inflamed thyroid.

However, after I wrote it down, it was clear that the "inflammation" was connected to the burning trees. And now that you mention burning trees as a symbol of kundalini, perhaps it means I've raised my kundalini to the throat chakra?

Maybe the man you fought with was a kind of kundalini doctor, checking your progress?
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: J.K. on January 31, 2005, 16:13:53
Hey Telos..

Fascinating dream, and IMHO much clearer than mine with regard to the kundalini.  As above, so below.  As I'm sure you know the tree of life is also in you.  And it does sound like you may have received some kind of message about the throat chakra.

I have no idea how accurate this is, but there is an online test available that supposedly will give you a hit as to your chakra states.  Here's the link if you'd like to have it.

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/chakratest.php

As per my dream, yesterday I spent some time looking through a book on Kundalini by Christopher Hills.  Then afterward I listened to a Christopher Hills cassette tape on the subject and did a little meditation.  During the meditation we were to breathe in deeply, filling the lungs and then diaphragm with energy - hold it for a second - and then when releasing the breath we were to envision a fan just above the root chakra 'blowing on the kundalini fire' - like a coal - making it burn hotter with the breath.

Anyway - as a result I'd planted a pretty good seed image in my mind for that day, so I'm pretty sure that's where the images in my dream came from.  But it sure would be cool if it was a dream foreshadowing.  I guess - that is if it went up the middle.. lol

If I'd seen that flame blowing sideways in the wind I'm not sure I'd like it so much.. lol   :roll:
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: Telos on February 02, 2005, 00:11:33
Maybe the man in the dream was testing you, to make sure you were strong enough? Clearly, you are.

Thanks for the link! I never took much stock in chakras before, but that site really describes them from a behavioral standpoint, which is much more practical.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: BahBoon on February 02, 2005, 00:19:11
I had a dream 2 weeks ago that i was running from a man and as i was running up the block i noticed a couple trees that were on fire. I took a branch with the fire on the end and set the guy blazing crispy. It was a very vivid dream too. I've wondered what the tree ment but never noticed anyone who had a dream like this.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: timothybeasley on February 02, 2005, 10:27:57
I, too had a dream with a burning tree.  Just a 7 foot stump, split off on the left, dusted with white powder and a plain-clothes guru, and a crowd of dancers doing some aboriginal dancing around this burning tree, chanting something I dont understand.  I believe we're seeing an archetype.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: sweetbliss on February 05, 2005, 05:57:03
Hello!

The tree of life is the subtle body, with all the chakras, and at it's root there is the Kundalini energy, coiled like a serpent. Kundalini is the individual spiritual motherly energy of each individual (Hindus understand her as a projection within of the Goddess or Shakti/Energy). Her abode is the sacrum bone (above Mooladhara chakra). When activated , by divine grace or by another person who has his/her Kundalini already active, she rises through the other six chakras and flows out from the top of the head. At this level she establishes the connection between the individual self and the divine /cosmic consciousness.

Obviously this a general human happening, so not only Indian Yogis have described Kundalini or the chakras. Moses saw it as a burning bush. And I read in a book of a Christian monk, about whom I am sure that he was a realized person, the description of 7 sources/springs of life along the spine. In the 'Bible' there are also references to the rod along which a snake is winding, which in the Yogic philosophy represents the spine along which Kundalini is rising.

Here is a link of description of Kundalini in different traditions,

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/14_02.htm

I hope it helps.

There are some more articles about Kundalinini on that magazine, as:

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/8_01.htm

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/12_02.htm

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/19_01.htm

(the home page is http://www.sol.com.au/kor )

but he first is the most relevant, I think.

The same tree of life is represented also as the Sephirotic tree, with similar qualities as those of the chakras.

Kundalini appears sometimes in dreams o visions as a little girl, because she is a virgin power and because she is not entirely manifested feminine (manifested she would be perceived as a virgin mother or as a goddess). Or like a dead beloved (because she manifests from another, more subtle world).
Dante's Beatrice is a reflection of his Kundalini guiding him to his self realization.
In the 'Bible', in the 'Song of Songs' a younger sister is mentioned , who still has no breasts (I'm sorry, I don't have an English 'Bible' to give exact quotes), it seems to be the same symbol, especially because that 'love song' contains hidden references to self realization and to the Last Judgment (as a collective revelation and realization).

J.K., interesting that in your dream the girl is Indian.
My guru says (and I have plenty of reason to believe that, lol) that this subtle body is reflected also in the Mother Earth. (I would be interested to hear whether this information circulates also from other sources. :?: ) So different countries or areas are different chakras of the Earth, and the destinies of the people inhabiting them are related to the qualities that chakra has.
The United States, for instance, are the central aspect of Vishuddhi chakra (the throat chakra) . India represents the abode of Kundalini,  that's why many people will go these in search for awakening and why the message about Kundalini mainly comes from India. The Himalayas and the state Nepal are the crown chakra, Sahasrara.

But Kundalini is not only fire. she manifests actually as subtle elements, being beyond them. She also manifests as water (maybe as source of a root of a tree  :wink: ) or as wind (cool vibrations)...

Ana
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: wisp on February 05, 2005, 09:31:57
sweetbliss,

This is a great explanation! I have only experienced the latter (cool white light/ lightening). Is fire kundalini more a male experience?  Sun(fire, gold, red) is connected with male energy.

I know Leo Valent has talked in more depth on this subject. He talked of more than one type as well. He talked of there being a concurrent thing going on. I'll have to find his post again.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: sweetbliss on February 06, 2005, 04:00:07
Wisp,
I haven't thought about it. I felt it like a non-heating, enlightening fire along the spine while talking to another yogi (a man), who is also a very devoted Christian and has met a few enlightened monks etc. But I did not relate the fire to male qualities... Actually I don't know.
What I would think about is that each chakra represents a subtle element, like:
Mooladhara - earth
Swadisthana - fire
Nabhi - water
Anahat - air
Vishuddhi - ether
Agnya - light
Sahasrara - divine energy.

Maybe our perception is influenced by a particular chakra.

Or, I would rather consider this a reason, the left energy channel (female, emotions, left parasympathetic nervous system, left side of the body and right brain hemisphere) is cleared by the fire element (in yogic treatment we also use candle treatment along this channel to clean it). The right channel (male, right side and left brain hemisphere) is balanced by air and ether. And the central evolution channel can be improved through spiritual activity and vibrations.
So, maybe it is also related to channel balancing or manifestation...

I'll look too, for more previously posted information.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: You on February 13, 2005, 15:54:14
That's very insightful (I was about to type inciteful, oy... my grammar is suffering), I wouldn't have thought of Kundalini. Now that I think about it, it definitely has some theoretical connections. After all, you are at the age when sexual maturity begins the bloom, using your testosterone to dominate your superior to take his daughter from him for your own. She too is at the point of sexual maturity, and yet you still retain childish innocence so it seems okay and not bad.

The burning tree though... kids like to climb trees, make tree forts, all sorts of innocent stuff, perhaps it has to do with those days of innocence leaving as you entire the age of violent sexuality? Burned by the energies of kundalini. Even so... fire isn't always bad, the tree fort turns into a huge house. Even so, the tree fort is cooler. I remember I had one and nailed on so many useless support beams. I was obsessed with support. I didn't want it to fall. I still do not.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: sweetbliss on February 13, 2005, 18:48:35
Oh, then just let yourself fall, Tyciol. :)  She, your Kundalini, will catch you, don't worry, just call for her! Just trust it once and let yourself fall. Let this tension go...
Don't need to be  8) , just  :wink: ...

Think of what Master Yoda would say!

:?:
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: You on February 13, 2005, 22:47:42
Kundalini is a woman? Well... I did read a shaman thing about it and it was a woman... a woman snake. It was sexy, it talked about imagining it biting you and stuff... ooh... I need to find a non-poison snake that can't crush me to bite me sometime... not on any arteries of course.
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: J.K. on February 20, 2005, 14:13:58
Oh man, I've had a dream about a tree again..  :roll:   lol

As a result, I thought I'd make the entry here.

In it the tree is huge, and I climb down.  At the bottom of the tree there is a rugby pitch, and we're about to play rugby.  I played Rugby for U.S.M. while in college.

What's interesting about the dream though is that the limbs of the tree were made not of wood - but dirt.  

I think it's related to the fact that just yesterday I read this article on Kriya Yoga wherein  this cat named Paramahamsa Prajñanananda gave an explanation of the body being made from dirt.. lol

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The Body Is Dust Created by God

There was complete silence in the room. As no one was saying anything, I asked "Would you like to hear what I have understood?" They agreed. I explained what was the meaning of "dust"—fine particles of soil. Soil means what? The earth element. Inside the earth there is water. Inside the earth there is fire. Inside the earth there is air. This earth or dust itself remains in the vacuum, space. Thus there are five elements. God created man—meaning human beings—out of these five elements. And these five elements are remaining in the whole body, each one being dominant in a particular chakra—earth in the bottom center, water in the sex center, fire in the navel center, air in the heart center, and vacuum in the throat center. God created man from dust. This body is made of dust. I do not know the Jewish custom of burying the dead, but I have seen how the Christian priest sprinkles a little soil over the coffin and says "Dust to dust, ashes to ashes..." because this body is made of dust and it is going back to dust. What is the value of your body? Dust. Dust means "insignificant." Do you like dust? If there is dust in your house, you remove it with your vacuum cleaner. Although we do not like dust, we like this dust-body because it comes from the hand of God. Although it is made of dust and insignificant, it is beautiful, because God has applied his hand to every part of the body. God made man from dust, and man is mortal. "Man" is to be understood as "human being." "Man is mortal" does not mean that woman is immortal! God created you and me, God has no partiality.

http://www.kriya.org/information/info_links/what_is_bible.htm

:P
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: wisp on February 20, 2005, 15:57:07
Jk,
An interesting article... though I'm not sure what to make of it.

About your dream:
You have an attitude of, "Let the games begin!"

Trees are connected with existence. If you feel an influence from the article, may be so then.

I tend to think of the living and the dead. Family tree?
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: J.K. on February 20, 2005, 18:29:03
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About your dream:
You have an attitude of, "Let the games begin!"

Wisp, I think you're right, but as one who believes in reincarnation, I believe this attitude gets me into trouble... lol

When we're aware of the game, I believe we have a tendency to bite off more than we can chew..

Ohhhh.. the messes I have seen this time around...  :roll:
Title: Tree Set Afire
Post by: wisp on February 21, 2005, 18:10:03
J.K.

Are you saying you are familiar with any of your previous lives?

I like the irony (if that's the word) of the construction (or design) of your last dream tree. Ashes, as in lightening struck, is another idea.

QuoteWhen we're aware of the game, I believe we have a tendency to bite off more than we can chew..

I'm not familiar with anyone like that. Care to explain?