Deja-vu and related topics

TheSeeker · November 06, 2003, 10:59:32

Right, but I didn't remember the dream until I was in the middle of reenacting it. I will post more later, must get back to work [

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fireprooflighter · November 06, 2003, 19:28:16

YES! A Deja-vu topic!
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I had Deja-vu a lot when I was little. Like 4th, and 5th grade. Almost daily. Then it went away, and is now just recently back. I was on the morning bus and had about a minute deja too.

I have had dreams tell me little insights the future. And now I get creeped out and don't know what to believe. I had a dream last night a close friend commited suicide. And was on edge all day, until I saw them on the bus. But then I heard another friend went to the hospital
because of some major illness. Ahhh, I wish dreams weren't so darn complicated. [xx(]

jc84corvette · November 06, 2003, 20:06:41

Can you deine Deja-vu briefly?

Nagual · November 07, 2003, 02:51:53

It's basicaly when you get the feeling that whatever is happening right now did happen before, in exactly the same way. Like, by example, you bump into your desk and something would fall; and then get the feeling/memory that, sometime in the past, you already bumped into the same table and the same thing dropped.

In my case, deja-vu never let me forecast what is going to happen; the futur. It's always after it happened that I get the feeling.

BTW, I don't like the deja-vu example with the black cat from The Matrix... It's not exactly deja-vu.

Adkha · November 07, 2003, 03:44:15

quote:
Originally posted by Nagual

It's basicaly when you get the feeling that whatever is happening right now did happen before, in exactly the same way. Like, by example, you bump into your desk and something would fall; and then get the feeling/memory that, sometime in the past, you already bumped into the same table and the same thing dropped.

In my case, deja-vu never let me forecast what is going to happen; the futur. It's always after it happened that I get the feeling.

Yes, that's exactly what my deja-vu are like too, It's always after it happened that I get the feeling.
BTW, I don't like the deja-vu example with the black cat from The Matrix... It's not exactly deja-vu.

Yeah that is true, but how would you simulate a deja-vu on screen? That's impossible, or not?

Anyway, it would be really difficult.
Have you seen Matrix Revolutions allready?! they use that black cat deja vu too when the matrix is reloading.
WAUWW it is so amazing, the end is gooodd but it's not an end. something you can also start a topic about...

Fyrenze · November 07, 2003, 07:07:58

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Originally posted by fireprooflighter

YES! A Deja-vu topic!
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I had Deja-vu a lot when I was little. Like 4th, and 5th grade. Almost daily. Then it went away, and is now just recently back. I was on the morning bus and had about a minute deja too.

I have had dreams tell me little insights the future. And now I get creeped out and don't know what to believe. I had a dream last night a close friend commited suicide. And was on edge all day, until I saw them on the bus. But then I heard another friend went to the hospital
because of some major illness. Ahhh, I wish dreams weren't so darn complicated. [xx(]

I definitely had deja-vu frequently in elementary school. It started to be less frequent in middle school, probably because I stopped remembering dreams.

And Adkha, occasionally, much of my day would have that feeling around it. Or at least the majority of classtime. I just knew all the conversations that would go on. I knew what people were saying as they were saying them.

I agree, there wasn't much time to predict anything, although I noticed that if they START the thought I could finish it faster than them.

Who knows? I've read that some scientists believe that deja-vu is simply caused by a misfire in the brain. Somehow, we remember two sides of an experience because our brain screwed up its location in time, or something like that. If anybody knows more, have a go at it.

I was so SURE that I dreamed them.

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TheSeeker · November 07, 2003, 08:04:01

Scientists were just trying to put a logical explanation to it, I'm sure they weren't monitoring someone's brainwaves during deja-vu, because you can't just ask someone to have deja-vu.

The more I meditate the more I have it.

Have you ever known it's happening so you try to change the event by doing something spontaneous, like waving your arms around crazily and saying gibberish? My friend always does that when it happens, it's pretty funny.

Also, a similar topic. Have you ever thought about someone you havn't seen in a long time, I'm talking years, and you just randomly think about them, then about 10 minutes later you see them.

jc84corvette · November 07, 2003, 16:53:12

Thank you for telling me.

lullabi · November 07, 2003, 17:50:34

I get Deja-vu all the time, at least once a week I'd say.
I thought it was caused by a chemical imbalance in the
brain or something?

When I get it, I usually tell whoever is near to me, I say "arghhh,
Deja-vu" but.. they never seem to know what I'm talking about.

quote: "Have you ever known it's happening so you try to change the event
by doing something spontaneous, like waving your arms around crazily
and saying gibberish?"

No, but I'm going to try that next time it happens =D

firetoice · November 08, 2003, 04:52:10

i sometimes remeber my dreams, but not very often
the ones i do rember sometimes happen, and once I have been able to change what happened because i asked a question in my dream, and was given the answer. I asked the question in real life, and told the person what he was going to say before he said it.

jc84corvette · November 08, 2003, 21:46:34

LOL! what was their reaction?

lullabi · November 09, 2003, 01:23:51

Once I was really stuck on a computer game, and I had a dream in
which I was playing this game and solving the puzzle. The next
day I tried what I did in my dream, and it worked! Why is my
subconcious smarter then me?? [

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eleusis2 · November 09, 2003, 17:23:47

Sometimes your subconscious can see connections that you normally wouldnt even consider, and therefore dreams can provide amazing insight if you can learn to interpret them correctly. Dreams have helped me understand and resolve a lot of personal issues.

In the 1850's Freidrich Kekule, the organic chemist struggled for a long time to determine the structure of benzene, only to see the answer in a dream (He saw the 6 atoms of benzene were not arranged in a straight chain, but a ring), so this is not just new age psycho babble

--Eleusis [

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ps. sorry if im stating the obvious here

James S · November 09, 2003, 19:02:41

I've always found Deja-Vu to be an amazing thing.

I get it quite often, from a few seconds worth to around 1-2 minutes. The long ones are really FREAKY!

I really do think they are dream fragments. Why? Because I have had the very rare Deja-Vu experiences where I remember the dream before Deja-Vu strikes, and the Deja-Vu turnes out to be a fragment of the dream I remember.

My take on it - I'll put a couple of theories together here.
1) Time seems to be irrelevent in the Astral. Those that know how seem to be able to move forward and backwards at will.
2) Dreaming is a basic form of astral travel - it has been found that the bodies energy counterpart separates slightly during REM sleep.

Put these two together and you have the possibility that Deja-Vu happens when the conscious mind catches up to a point in time that the dream mind has already breifly visited. Bit of a stretch of theories I know, but on a few different levels it's workable.

Regards,
James.

gamer666 · November 09, 2003, 20:11:05

really it got off topic in the original psot you said nothing about dejavuu

Adkha · November 11, 2003, 03:10:52

quote:
Originally posted by TheSeeker

Scientists were just trying to put a logical explanation to it, I'm sure they weren't monitoring someone's brainwaves during deja-vu, because you can't just ask someone to have deja-vu.

The more I meditate the more I have it.

Have you ever known it's happening so you try to change the event by doing something spontaneous, like waving your arms around crazily and saying gibberish? My friend always does that when it happens, it's pretty funny.

YEAH! But when I do that, then I get the feeling that's part of the deja-vu too! It's like you cant change anything.

Also, a similar topic. Have you ever thought about someone you havn't seen in a long time, I'm talking years, and you just randomly think about them, then about 10 minutes later you see them.

V00D00 · November 11, 2003, 12:43:32

finally a deja-vu topic.. we really need a non-lucid dreaming dreams forum

now what i want to say is that that i have some very strange deja-vu's... i know what will EXACTLY happen in the next few seconds (usually from about 10 to 30)... i know every word, every smell, every sound, every though that appears in my mind.

last time it happened yesterday... my friend and i were working on an game engine and i finally managed to achieve something and the the feeling came and i remebered the dream (i don't know why but i'm SURE that i dreamed these happenings) and i do not know any possible way to change the course of my actions... it's hard to explain this but do you know the effect when you place two mirrors and can see in the the eternity... i remember the dream in which i remember the dream in which i remember the dream in which... well, you got the point... i got lost and the feeling is gone

this is all from me for now.. gotta go.. my cell is waiting

lullabi · November 24, 2003, 03:03:30

One deja-vu theory I like is that because the right and left
sides of your brain are seperate, if one slows down for a few
seconds they experience things at different times, and there's
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fireprooflighter · December 05, 2003, 15:14:44

Yes, I'm reviving a dead topic. But I'm slightly confused.

A night or two ago, I had deja vu of having deja vu.

I was throwing away an empty shampoo bottle (Because I some insane obsession about keeping my bathtub uncluttered) and I said "Deja Vu!" and then I knew I would turn around to look at the conditioner, and something like turned me around, and I stared right at the conditioner because I knew exactly how the tub would look, like how everything would be set up. Which is weird because every night I get in and all 20 bottles are in a different spot.

So what does deja vu of deja vu mean?

Adkha · November 06, 2003, 10:02:05

Hi all,

The topic that I started about we'r getting blinded by our fears got a littly bit off-topic so I will start her a new one.

My experience with Deja-vu:

I've had a lot of different experiences. Some of them lasted relative very long. My longest lasted I think about 1 minute. And thats long! If I have a dejavu I dont speak I only listen and watch whats happening. And I recognize everything that happens, like I experienced it before.
One time it was like this. I thought I had a deja-vu, but then I rrealized I didn't....but then I realized that that was the dejavu! Very weird...if you have experienced it too then you know what I mean.
I've never had any dream that was predicting the future.
And again....I find it hard to believe somebody has because you will get a time-paradox. like I said in the other topic.
But we can discuss about it here!

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