4/4/2004

[Kalonek]

Thanks for the information Targa ! I had never heard of this before. I'll do some more energy work on the 4th to see if i can feel anything more than usual.

[Gwathren]

Targa,

what do you think of the time and date like:
20:02(time), 20.02.2002(date)

and even better,

20:04(time), 20.04.2004(date)

[mystic_zero]

Hi 2 all & wish u in a gud light..

It continues...

a) 20:05(time), 20.05.2005(date)
b) 20:06(time), 20.06.2006(date)
c) 20:07(time), 20.07.2007(date)
d) 20:08(time), 20.08.2008(date)
e) 20:09(time), 20.09.2009(date)
f) 20:10(time), 20.10.2010(date)
g) 20:11(time), 20.11.2011(date)
h) and (i think) the last one is
  20:12(time), 20.12.2012(date)

looks interesting...[]

[Nick]

For those interested in the subject of Sacred Geometry here are a few links:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/

http://www.floweroflife.org/

[Nagual]

Here we are, 4/4/2004...  So, anything going on?

[Nay]

YES!!  My allergies are killing me today!  I want my nose back, give it back you evil little pollen thingys! [xx(]

Nay []

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Nagual

Here we are, 4/4/2004...  So, anything going on?

OK, let's hope 20:05 20.05.2005 is more interesting...

[Hephaestus]

Anyone care to tell me which timezone we're talking about? and can someone please explain to me how the planet Earth knows about the gregorian calendar? and why has the planet Earth adopted the gregorian calendar to decide when to 'change'? whats wrong with the other calendars like the Julian calendar? what happened like, did the Earth wake up one day and think to itself "hey according to the gregorian calendar today its 01/01/01 what a perfect opportunity to have a change."
Enquiring minds want to know. I do hope the Earth takes into account leap years.

I cant believe people come out with this kind of b**ls**t.

[Fat_Turkey]

I think the idea was to sit around trying to sense the vibe change. But seeing as there are 12 changes they must be pretty damn subtle, so next time one of these comes around I'll try to be in the astral when it happens to have a look around.

Hephaestus, don't be so cynical about the whole ordeal. I think it's high time that we got into a new age, and if this is all true, I'm hoping that we get super awesome abilities and be like the Elves in LOTR. It's okay to dream[|)]

~FT

[The AlphaOmega]

Likewise... my allergies have destroyed me today (4-4-04).  Nice moon is out as well, but nothing spactacular.  Mumbo jumbo to me.  "Everything means something" concept.  It's the fourth of April.  Tomorrow is the fifth.  Then the sixth.  Nothing special but another date.

[Hephaestus]

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey


Hephaestus, don't be so cynical about the whole ordeal. I think it's high time that we got into a new age, and if this is all true, I'm hoping that we get super awesome abilities and be like the Elves in LOTR. It's okay to dream[|)]

~FT

I think my point went straight over your head. Just because the date has all 04's in it doesnt make it an ideal time for an Earth change of any nature, the gregorian calendar wasnt created by the Mayans to predict Earth changes - its just an ordinary calendar.

[Moonburn33]

i was meditating all day yesterday and didn't notice anything.

i agree with hephaestus here- this is a case of someone with not enough educational background trying to come to conclusions about something that they take for granted.

[volcomstone]

lately Ive been having dreams everynight about telekinesis, or I am just completely lucid, I had an exceptionally vivid one, the night before


strange that it was also daylight savings time, also it was palm sunday

[spaceman]

Well, something did happen at 04:04:04(GMT) on 04/04/04:
a bunch on V.J.s(including myself) from all around the world got their cameras out to film whatever was happening around. Once all the footage is collected we'll be making an audio-visual piece and probably a DVD.
so far we've got things like a fruit vendor in india and a trance party in england.
if anyone is interested let me know.

[galacticsurfer]

I know this is pretty late for this topic but I am new here and have been reading up on most energy development topics one at a time.

Astrologically speaking dates are important due to how the planets are aligned. Numerology is a completely different thing and also seems to be very real in its effects on people.

For example in Chinese numerology people born on the first have a certain type of mentality whereas people born on the 8th have another type of personality. Whether these numbers are somehow "objective" from the view of the universe is hard to say. The Chinese base everything on the number 60 so that everything is a big cycle and repeats after 60 days, 60 years,etc. Since the chinese calendar begin has to do with some super planet conjunction thousands of years ago which very rarely repeats then it has some objective value astrologically.

Since the western calendar is supposed to be based on Jesus birth(6 years out of course) it could only be of worth if Jesus is like God or something in an objective sense(Avatar, etc.) and if it were an accurate calendar.  Since nobody knows exactly when he was born and literally speaking everything about him was written down 3rd hand 100 years later we cannot even prove his existence, much less his actual status so that the western calendar is not of proven astrological value(which could conceivably make it of significance to planet earth as well as to the other planets = "deities").

I remember a website where I looked around some months ago called the "harmonic concordance" which is the title they gave to the perfect sextile of 6 planets during the eclipse which then occurred on Nov. 8th, 2003. Lots of people met together on this date and had parties. 4 of my birth planets were perfectly aligned with those 6 planets at that time so I had been wary about that eclipse for some months beforehand due to some things I read about my horoscope phases at that time due to my Jyotish(india) horoscope.

I really did not notice anything happen on that date so that my worries seemed unfounded. I suppose however that the effect of such an eclipse is now being felt in that I am involved now with NEW technique and learning about OBE and lucid dreaming so that I am making a lot of spiritual progress which could well be an interpretation of the long term effects of such a transit. I imagine this spiritual growth was all possible due to my diligence in spiritual practice in the run up to such a big personal transit/planetary conjunction as I was so worried about it.

From the scientific standpoint of course I could see this as simply a circualr belief system. Of course only the results matter.

[kinesis_man]

{{i know i sound stupid for saying this but please forgive me}}



I think what this date involves are the month and year...not a day in perticular...it could be the entire month instead of the day of the month like some believe.

4/04
5/05
and so on.....cause things have happened to me this entire month that normally would not happen....under normal circumstances...{school, sleep, work, food, and so on.....}


so tell me what you think of my stupid theory......





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oh...and one more thing i forgot to mention about 2012 and time as itself....12 hours ....year 2012....{funny}.....year 2012 is on the chinese year for the dragon....every 12th year...{funny here as well}....12 months in a year......2012.....and 12 hours on a clock....{really funny there}....this makes absolutely 100% sense to me why people came up with the ''war'' now......they just took this and put it together and made a stupid conclusion before studying....
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[galacticsurfer]

I don't know about the month/year thing really.

The chinese calendar is based on the five elements and 12 year cycles together to make a complete 60 year cycle.

Fire Metal Wood Earth Water
Rat Ox Tiger Hare Dragon Snake Horse Sheep Monkey Rooster Dog Boar

They use only twelve double hours and not like in the west 24 hours for horoscope birth time. This would also fit for the practice in India of just making your ascendant the whole house and disregarding degree for ascendant(12 houses = 2 hours per house).

I always heard the babylonians invented the 60 minute hour but am not sure.

From reading Graham Hancock books and paleo ufology one gets the idea that due to all these monoliths in the stone age everywhere that were spread over the whole world that this idea(12/60) is pre ice age and astrology was a sort of global religion with extreme accuracy and knowledge of astronomy and that nobody invented it whose culture we can directly now connect with as they went under in several big melts which covered up big areas of land in the indian, pacific, atlantic, black Sea, mediterranean, caribbean and forced everyone to high land as the coasts were very uncertain everywhere and nobody knew where the water would stop.

The Shamanistic/Amerindian culture uses a 4 direction astrology. this is the most primitive form based on the 4 directions of the heavens. Later on people divided each direction by 3.

[kinesis_man]

have you ever notived though ...i know this is wierd enough as it is in all..but that 60 and 12 are related and that 3600 or what ever it is is related to it...in that it all comes out equil in the end of this pole shift that people are talking about..and that everything that we may know now may be wrong??...any info would be cool..if not ...lets keep this discussion going  shall we....

[Targa]

Hi all.  Just thought I'd throw this tidbit out here in case anyone wanted to experiment.  I was reading a website the other day, and they were talking about Earth Changes.  Changes in "the grid" and earth's vibrational rate, sacred geometry, etc.  Anyways, they mentioned certain "alignments" happening on key dates.  Funny how it works out, they were saying that the earth's grid (the main one I guess) is shaped like a merkabah (also called 'flower of life', it's like a 3-D star of david, you can see one here: http://www.mysticmerchant.com/merkaba/merkqtz17x17x17-1a-csml.jpg).  This thing has 12 points.  This corresponds to 12 dates, starting with 1/1/2001 and continuing to 12/12/2012, which is supposedly the start of a new Age (which also coincides with the mayan calendar).  At any rate, the next date, 4/4/2004 isn't very far away.  Supposedly you can "feel" the vibrational shift that occurs on and around these dates.  Since we're all more or less working with our energy bodies, I thought there might be a few interested in seeing if they can "feel" anything on this date.