A the walls real?

[Mistic-Idan]

So?? What's you question exactly???

If it's about the walls then don't worry, it's just your belief system that didn't get yet the new rules of the unphysical.
You'll get used to it and then you'll be able to pass through anything.

[beavis]

Its not just what you believe. It takes psi/energy to get farther away from the normal laws of physics. I find similar limits on my power in lucid dreams and OBEs. I can usually levitate things. About half the time I can create things. Sometimes I can teleport to a different place.

[Rastus]

I try and remember 2 keys when projecting: There are no rules and it takes Energy.

That's it.  You can do pretty much whatever you want, but you need energy to do it.  A corolary is: don't bring your metaphysical baggage with you.  That means if you think walls are "walls" then your going to apply all the rules of physics to them (that means you can't get through them).  It's the #1 reason people "can't" fly, in my opinion.

Don't think of them as walls, think of them as porrus energy reflections of the 'real' walls.  Then all you have to do is phase through them and your outside.  Dream logic?  No, think Projection physics.

[Everett]

Ahh! So let me get this straight...Pretty much you have to think in an un-ubjectional matter to get around the preconcived thoughts of physics we are used to in the physical plane to achieve whatever you desire in the astrial plane, such as going through walls?

[beavis]

Yes. Your belief/intent is the direction and your energy is the amount of change.

[Rastus]

I can't believe I'm going to say this again, Go rent the movie "Ghost".  Specifically the scene in the train station with the creepy ghost where he is trying to move a bottle cap.  The line goes something like "Do you think that's air your breathing?  You don't have hands anymore.  It's all in your mind...", and it is []

[Everett]

I recinetly just experienced my first OBE! Everything was cloudy but I knew I was in my bedroom. I began floating towards the cealing in the top left corrner of my room. I figured that I could just float through the cealing and would be somewhere I've never been. But i couldn't pass the walls. I willfully hurled myself against the wall a few more times but couldn't get through. Thats all I rember. I then had a very vivid dream almost lucid but I didn't take contle of it like I should have.