About kundalini

[Everlasting]

I'm sceptical to the whole thing, I mean a ball of mystical energy at the base of your spine?. The idea you have to activate this energy to be able to have enlightening experiences is just lame.

[AstralGoat2008]

It might well sound lame..

but if you consider that these are experiences that would normally be nurtured and developed throughout youth in times long gone by; either through shamanic culture or other advanced yoga practices.

Sadly in today's society energetic and esoteric spiritual practices are largely neglegted in the west especially, which in my opinion accounts for the percieved extra effort to achieve say Kundalini activation as a goal.

[personalreality]

I feel you.

[pondini]

i don't know enough about the mechanism that activates the kundalini, so i cant disagree, or agree with your post. but i do know that the kundalini rising is real. those two little snake heads on king tut's crown weren't just put there arbitrarily

[personalreality]

that's all you got?  king tut?

caduceus, dna, "lucifer" in the garden of eden, ouroborus, any snake you can find anywhere.

*sarcasm

[Xanth]

i don't know enough about the mechanism that activates the kundalini, so i cant disagree, or agree with your post. but i do know that the kundalini rising is real. those two little snake heads on king tut's crown weren't just put there arbitrarily

Far be it for me to agree with PR... 
But, perhaps he just liked snakes?   hehe

~Ryan

[pondini]

a quick search...
http://www.crystalinks.com/uraeus.html









EDIT: lol, i noticed the 'sarcasm' note on your post. at first i didn't know how to take your post:P

[Ignazio]

I don't think hes being sarcastic

[personalreality]

not really, but people get uptight sometimes.

so i ease their mind.

[pondini]

that's all you got?  king tut?

caduceus, dna, "lucifer" in the garden of eden, ouroborus, any snake you can find anywhere.

*sarcasm

yeah, i wasn't sure until PR added his edit --above, in bold

[CFTraveler]

The snake had a few meanings in different places at different times- in the old middle eastern places (in the times of the old testament) the snake was a symbol of fertility- and in egypt it was used to denote nobility.  I don't remember much from school regarding snakes in egypt (many animals had different meanings, according to their mythology) but I believe that it had something to do with wisdom and eternity.
So, a pharaoh didn't arbitrarily use the serpent in their headpieces- it was a symbol of their kingship.

In India (where the concept of Kundalini comes from) the serpent nagas is a symbolic representation of wisdom also, and in some early buddhist literature, it gave the buddha some wisdom about reality.
It is my understanding that in Kundalini  the serpent was a description of the path the energy takes as it transmutes energies in the human body, and with time, as it happens with most forms of mysticism, the ideas became literalized and cults  formed around the symbol itself.  So what is just a symbol for one thing becomes important in itself.

So there you have it, the historical interpretation.

[pondini]

my comment was somewhat off-the-cuff, but i did see the two artifacts related to one-another in a documentary -which doesn't prove anything without a referenced source. the correlation might just be a loose theory or interpretation by a handful of people. i'll try to be more discerning from now on;)

[personalreality]

no no, you're absolutely right.  i was just telling you that there is more than just that.

[anelie.]

Hi everyone,

I would like to share with you my experience with what maybe can be called raising of kundalini.
First time it happened to me when I was about 15 years old - I went with my mum for a session of "sahaja yoga", which is basically about raising kundalini.
We tried a simple meditation there, with eyes closed, it was something like, now put your right hand on your stomach and think of (I don' t remember what), now put your hand on your heart and try to forgive everyone (in general, not thinking about a special person)...this kind of meditation. I was doing all of this; i was concentrated but not 'pushing' too much as I was at the same time trying not to laugh because my mum found all of this funny. In the end we were asked to put our hand 10 cm above our heads, and we were told that we should feel something, a kind of cold or warm energy, something like that. I remember that when I  put my hand above my head, I felt a force similar to the force between two magnets of the same pole, it was so strong that I had to completely raise my arm and this "force" was still continuing above my raised arm. I think it was kundalini that I managed to rise as this was the purpose of this meditation.  However, when I tried this meditation some 5 years later, it did not work.

Many years later (a few months ago) I managed to raise kundalini energy again without even planning to. I was at work and I had nothing to do, so I decided to write a letter to God:) So I was sitting at my desk and typing text, in which I was asking God al the existential questions for which I don' t have an answer. After some time I started just to talk aboud God how I would like to love him and I got quite emotional when writing it (I am sorrry I know it sounds very stupid when I write it on a forum as it is something very personal). After some time I realised that I was sitting with a spine very straight and my face was very relaxed and I felt the same kind of energy as I experienced during my sahaja yoga meditation. I was very surprised as this was not at all my intention, I was thinking what I should do know, shoud I use this energy to heal my thyroid gland?
All this experience lasted about half an hour, after my colleagues started talking to me and it disappeared. But since then I felt a weird sound in my ears that I hear sometimes but this times it was quite loud and it disappeare only after a qi-gong class that I had a few days later.

So what I think had happened is that I have, without wanting to, activated during my "prayer" this special energy, but obviosly it wasn' t the best and safest way, because of the sound I heard in my ears. And it went away only after a qi gong class where probably my energies were put into balance again. So I decided that if one day I want to try raising of kundalini, I will try it with some yoga techniques.

So I think, there are many techniques for rising kundalini, but not all of them are safe. I also think that this energy can be raised without doing any special effort, just by living your life...

[Jarrod]

Hey Anelie.  About the noise that you felt in your ear, can you describe that more.  I get something like that pretty often.  It's hard to describe because it's not an actual noise, but something definitely changes for a few seconds, like my hearing changes somehow, not exactly clearer or duller I don't think, just different.  It might not be just my hearing, maybe my perception in general but I notice the change in my hearing.  That's happened randomly, maybe a few times a week, for as long as I can remember and I've always wondered about it.  So...sound anything like the energy imbalance you had?

[anelie.]

Hi Jarrod,

concerning this strange noise in my ear, I am also not sure  what it is. I have been "suffering" from it for ages. When I was a child, before I felt asleep, I had an impression that the walls in my room were emitting this sound:) But now I know that it is in my ear. In my case it is in fact something like a sound of the tv if you can imagine what I mean. (When you turn off the sound the tv gives off this special noise... ).

In my case it also happens randomly, a few times per week. I tend to think that it is connected with tiredness and stress but then why did I have it also when I was a child? Maybe it is energy imbalance, but I think it is also physical. I am sure that some spiritual exercises like the one I made can have physical effects, that is why for example pranayama (yogic breathing) shouldn' t be done without a teacher. But it is true that it disappeared after the qi-gong session, which is a very relaxing exercise full of deep breathing and stretching.

What is strange is that it is difficult to locate this sound - it's as if it is everywhere - in my head and around me... I'm not sure whether it is the same thing that you have, because you're writing that in your case it lasts for a few seconds, in my case it can stay for days. It also gets very strong when I wake up after loosing consciousness (it happened to me twice), so it can be connected with low blood pressure...

[Jarrod]

I've heard that the noise you hear when you're just listening to the silence is your own thoughts, or has something to do with the nerves in your inner ear.  A noise that's always there but you only notice it when there's nothing else and your attention is drawn to it.  Maybe...I don't know.  What I'm talking about is definitely not that though, and I don't think yours is either because in both of our cases it's something out of the ordinary that comes and goes.

[steveo233]

  Kundalini to Western Science : the center of your kundalini is in your perenium, or the base of your spine: the cocyx......... where you feel the center of orgasm. the energy(blood/bioelectricity) that runs through the nerves in your perenium down to your feet has a give/take (electromagnetic) connection with the center of the earth....... not the very center of course......... kundalini is when your connection from your perenium to the earth is in perfect balance and you have immense electric energy coming into you from the earth. the physical sensation of kundalini is perfect circulation in the body with zero blocks. Like a constant orgasm....... BAM! take that ancient knowledge and smoke on it... hahahaha hahaha a-ha-ha-ha

EDIT: btw it's not literally a snake, the snake just represents where the majority of the energy in your spine is, when you have an orgasm it's kinda like electricity shooting through your entire body, get it. that's where the ancients got that myth from....... BAM!#2......... i love my brain

[TofuAttack]

the second image that pondini posted would make for an awesome tattoo.

[Pauli2]

I think a rising kundalini mostly messes up people. I think very few get any real benefits from a raised kundalini. And the Hundis that do this kundalini practice doesn't seem to prove any real gain either.

So the question is, what does the kundalini do, more than mess u up mentally and physically?

[TofuAttack]

is kundalini really that dangerous? i definitely want to raise it sometime in my lifetime.

some of the benefits i found by googling:

riddance from tensions, true happiness, beauty, perfect health and physical strength, magnetic persona,

freedom from stomach ailments, increase in sex power, and cure of sexual debility, increase in courage and fearlessness,

perfect digestion, riddance from ailments like kidney stones, diabetes, liver problems etc. Success in amazing Sadhanas like flying in the air, walking on water, telepathic contact with animals and plants, perfection in Prannayam and the highest achievement is success in Meditation.

peace of mind, boundless divine joy, total freedom from tensions, power to look into future, power of hypnosis, entering into Samadhi (divine trance), riddance from problems related to heart, increase in soft emotions like love, affection and kindness

riddance from all ailments related to throat, thyroid etc., increase in knowledge, gain of power of eloquence, deeper Samadhi, perfection in the art of Hypnotism, gain of power to die when one wills, total material success like comforts, wealth, fame

brings wondrous powers like clairvoyance, telepathy, power of giving curses or blessings, instant fulfillment of anything one wishes, and gain of knowledge related to all subjects and sciences, power to control thoughts of others and interfere even in nature.

Awakening of Sahastrar renders the aspirant liberated from corporeal bondages and attachments. He is endowed with all kinds of divine attainments including 'Ashta Siddhi' and 'Nava Nidhi'. He becomes an omniscient Yogi. Being emancipated from the cycles of birth and death, he certainly achieves the final beatitude.

One is fully enlightened and can then envision any event going on anywhere in the universe with out entering into Samadhi. All natural elements come under one's control.

read the full effects at http://www.siddhashram.org/kundalini.shtml

[Pauli2]

Ahh.. those "wonderful powers". When R Bruce challenged other psychics to prove they had had kundalini experience, very few, if any at all, showed up.

I've been doubting those "wonderful powers" as very few have been able to show their existence.

So far I've only got headache and nausea.