Did it feel more real than a dream? It sounds like either an OBE or maybe remote viewing.
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Originally posted by GTP
... It sounds like either an OBE or maybe remote viewing.
Sorry, I don't mean to be off topic here but are you saying then that OBE and remote viewing are two different phenomena? I just kind of assumed that if you were having an OBE then you were remote viewing by default.
The clarity was much more than in dreams.
I don't think OBE and Remote Viewing are the same. In OBE you are always Remote Viewing until and unless you go deep into astral, but in Remote viewing you are not always in OBE.
Or is it the opposite. I'm really confused???[;)]
vikram88 "If this was an AP, then what caused it?"
It was OBE but not AP, because your clock is in real time zone, not astral. It was caused by this:
"I was reading about Telepathy and other stuff on the Computer for 2 hours"
"I just visulised that a beam from my mind(As done in Telepathy) was linking with empty space near the room's door"
Learn about it. Visualize it. And be relaxed. Thats all it takes.
All it requires is two things. Mind awake, body asleep (or deeply relaxed).
Lots of people use a sleep deprivation technique for having OBE or for lucid dreams.
If you've been running low on sleep, then your body must have been really tired, but not your mind. When you took your nap, your body could have been so tired that it quickly relaxed, but your mind was still awake. The visualization just helped.
Yes, I was really really tired. I almost went to sleep when I was reading about Telepathy on the computer. That was when I went to take rest.
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Originally posted by Grigori
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Originally posted by GTP
... It sounds like either an OBE or maybe remote viewing.
Sorry, I don't mean to be off topic here but are you saying then that OBE and remote viewing are two different phenomena? I just kind of assumed that if you were having an OBE then you were remote viewing by default.
No OBE's and remote viewing are separate phenomenon. In OBE's you're soul is traveling, remote viewing you're tapping into some type of template of the universe, that's how I understand it from my research.
Risu: You said
"If you've been running low on sleep, then your body must have been really tired, but not your mind."
No offense, but that makes no sense. If you have been deprived of sleep, why would just your body be tired and not your mind also?
The body, and the awareness of a person are two seperate aspects of the same entity. To help clearify what he meant, is something like this.... Your body can be very tired/lethargic, while your awareness/mind is still active [awake]. Thats also the theory behind the 'trance' that your body goes numb/falls asleep because of inactivity and relaxation, while the mind and awareness are kept awake, seperate from the bodies sleeping phase.
In his case, his body has had a lack of sleep, but he knew he had to be awake by a certain time. That kept his mind more awake/aware, aswell as the fact that he was practiceing/attempting something that didnt require bodily action.
Yes the mind does need almost as much rest as the body does, especially if people tend to think a lot, or stress themselves because of trying to keep up with thier busy lives. But with others they're mind may not need as much rest due to either less but more prolonged mental effort, or no prolonged mental effort at all... and ifthe mind is interested in something, its more likely that it will keep itself more aware, while tired, then it usually would have,
sounds to me liek you had a false awakening when you saw the clock at 2:20 .. false awakenings are OBEs that you can rarely tell are OBEs .. you think its real until you .. wake up AGAIN :) .. Could explain why the time was really 2:20 and how the experience felt so real.. Thats my take on it .. consider it an OBE .. it was most likely cause by you worrying conciously or subconciously about the time so you lookedup to see if time had passed at least astrally at first :)
Anyone agree/disagree?
I myself believe that it was an AP, because I know what I felt.
Now I'll start training in AP.
Yup false awakenings are AP's sounds like one but hey thats my 2cents :) Good luck have fun!
I just had the EXACT same thing happen! My dream clock said 4:25, and when I woke up my real clock said 4:25 exactly! WOW, that's areally wierd coincidence. I think it's a psychic dream or remote viewing of some sort. I've had dozens of OBE's and know what they feel like- it felt nothing like an OBE.
I can't diff that experience and OBE because I've never had an OBE, cause I've not started working for it. But as I said it looked very real, more real than a dream...
From Sunday onwards I have had deprivation in sleep as I had to study late night and get up early in the morning due to my exams.
Yesterday afternoon, I was reading about Telepathy and other stuff on the Computer for 2 hours and I was really tired. It was almost time for me to go for my classes so I thought of taking a 10-15 mins nap. I lay down on my bed and saw the clock was showing 2:10 pm. I thought while resting I can try linking my brain to another person for telepathy(I don't know anything about linking and I have never tried it). But there was no in the room. I was so tired that I don't know why but I just visulised that a beam from my mind(As done in Telepathy) was linking with empty space near the room's door. The Reason my mind did it, I Don't Know.
After that I went into dreams. The first picture that I saw was that I was lying in exactly the same position and I saw the room very clearly as if I was actually seeing it and I also saw the clock showing 2:20pm. I did not realise that it was a dream as it was so clear and I was lying in the same position. Thus I thought that I had got late. Suddenly I woke up and saw that the clock showed exactly the same time!!!
I thought this might be related to telepathy or something. But afterwards I realised that it might be an astral projection or OBE!!! Before this I had never read about how to do an astral projection or OBE and I had never tried it.
Was this really an astral projection? or was it telepathy or something related to it or just coincidence.
If this was an AP, then what caused it? Was it the unintentional linking or just lack of sleep?