Can you create a self sufficent energy being?

[jilola]

I'd suggest you research servitors. They are entities that one creates for a purpose in the chaos magick school of thought.

Liber null and Psychonaut are some reading that'll shed light on this.

2cents & L&L
jouni

[RandomName]

That is definitely an interesting thought. What if one could generate an ally for themselves FROM their own metaphysical energy? Isn't this comparable to the witchcraft related summonings and possible forming ones own energy into a creatre/monster with a spell?


WOW. POST POST POST! I want to hear more

[jodinastar]

isnt that were the guardian angel thing comes from? my granny taught me that a guardian angel is an energy which is made by one seeking protection.(unfortunately thats all she said!)

[DarkQuest]

well i was thinkin of crystals, then online games lol and how they use different crystals sometimes to summon monsters.  well even though video games arent real, crystals have orgone energy, so maybe if you used a crystal, you could experiment on it, and possibly channel orgone energy from the crystal to make an energy being.  but if its been proven possible i think that'd be pretty cool to do

[vikram88]

Everything is possible...[8D]

[beavis]

I dont know if this is considered an energy being, but its close. At rare times, my connection to the nonphysical becomes so strong that I do telekinesis to my psi wheel and when I stop it keeps turning. Minutes (a few times hours) later if I try to stop it it keeps going. I can leave the building and when I come back its still moving the same direction and speed. Usually I can just move the psi wheel less than 1 turn and then it stops.

[Risu no Kairu]

You mean like a Tulpa with a mind of it's own?

[Tayesin]

Hi.
I think the operative words in the question are.."self sufficient" and "Being".  Creating an energetic manifestation is very possible, as witnessed by Carlos Castaneda under tuition from the Yacqui Sorceror Don Juan Matus. So I do not doubt that it is very do-able.

Whether it would be self-sufficient is another matter, and so too whether it could be called a being.  If you have created a manifestation, maybe it will be reliant upon you to keep it charged up, so to speak.  You could direct it since it was your creation, but you would need a vast store of personal power to keep it manifest.  

And, even if it looked remotely human, it still could not be called a being.  As it would not be endowed with the same attributes as all other beings, which is it's own unique awareness and ability to continue in existence without to much assistance from an outside source.

All that said though, it is a great concept that you have come up with.

Love always.

[Man Of Jade]

Alright, heres my experience...

I astral projected into an astral plane somewhere. I decided for some reason to try creating energy shells. So I created a "shell" (looking similar) to a human, based on a friend of mine. I sensed the energy it was composed of, and all there was was basically the shape and the ability to control it.

I wondered... What would happen if I put energy into it? So I summoned up an emotion.... Love. I let the energy flow through it intensely.

Heres where it gets interesting.

Suddenly I sensed not only the shell, but things began to form inside it. I could feel energy start to course through it, chakras developed in a flash.... Except for the fact that it wasnt aware, it was as much a being as i.

Then it became... Alive.

The next moment I sensed a "spark"... And it began expressing the emotion I created it with back through me... It seemed to have an energy connection to a higher power. It was a feeling somewhere inbetween interesting, incredible, and beyond words. It then flew off, into a higher astral plane... Very stunned, I faded back into my body...

To this day I dont know where that being is, but I can still feel a connection to it.

What is everybody's opinions on that?

[RandomName]

Hmm, personally, it sounds like a good idea that hasn't come back to say hello or prepare to die yet. This other being you created could/most likely be helping people, but there is a possiblty it is doing something else to cause mischeif.

I actually thought you meant some form of a Tulpa or Golem, but hey, an astral buddy from yourself is in my neighborhood also [^]

[Tayesin]

Hi.  
Man of Jade, what a deeply interesting experience. Maybe you met yourself, by creating a mirror of the self. Hope that's not too deep coz I can't swim. []

Love always

[Man Of Jade]

Not too deep at all Tayesin [] Thats definitly A possibility... I sure was mysterious[^]

I have a feeling its helping peple out...

I think I should experiment with this more... After I KNOW what I'm doing.... heh

[Blue_Anubis]

Another term for such an entity is an egregore. In essence, it's a created entity acts as a battery for psychic energy. Certain occult orders made/make use of these. Fraternitas Saturni (and its offshoots) use/maintain an egregore, for example.

[Kiflarer]

i think i know what it is... but i wanna kepp it more private... contact me at killingsephiroth@hotmail.com at msn or contact me at oal : Kennynem

[Adrian]

Greetings,

Yes, it is quite possible to create beings known as elementaries in the Astral plane and elementals in the Mental plane. They are created from a single element.

These can be given tasks to do for example psychic defence. It is usual to attach a self destruct date or self destruct command to these beings, otherwise they can assume a life of their own and cause havoc. The creator of the elemental is karmically responsible.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Anonymous]

So Adrian, is it possible to make one of these elemental beings outside of the astral/mental planes.

[vikram88]

If the creator of the elemental is karmically responsible for the elemental's deeds then isn't our creator karmically responsible for our deeds?

I know this is a silly question but it just struck my mind.

[Lasher]

quote:Originally posted by pod3

No. We are given freedom of choice whereas servitors are not.

If they don't have freedom of choice, then what makes them go around causing havoc?

Lasher

[shadowatcher]

The closest Ive come is splitting my personality up into two beings. My good side and evil side. Im working on a new topic to describe it[]

[vikram88]

pod3, first of all I don't think elemental's can be called servitors.

Secondly you gave an example of a dog in comparison with an elemental but remember we are not karmically responible for a dog's actions.

Thirdly, why can't an elemental be given freedom of thought?

[Man Of Jade]

Is it possible to do so? I have an... ah... unusual experience to post after this topic gets going.