Yeah, I've done it many times and lookit my car shine with all that chrome!
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LMAO, your a funny guy[:)][:D][:)], but seriously do you got any information on this, becuase I'd like to know a little bit more about this particular phenom. [:)][:P][:)]
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would that mean, the user or someone would feel a different speed in the flow of time, say.. listening to music that sounds like its only playing at half speed, when the program / discman is functioning properly.
Woah, My brian hurts just trying to Comprehend that
Thanks for the info. Mj.[:)]
Namaste,
its out there...this "tech" you speak of. hmmm...from what i understand it is the ability to increase and decrease the vibratory frequency of your(you being a theoretical practicioner)annamaya kosha, or physical sheath to the point of being able shift between this dimension(the time-space continuum)and the subtler realms of less dense matter(astral/4D). the ability to "stop" time is a relative fallacy, in that, to change the flow of time is only to change the perception of the perciever of the flow of time. for a human to be able to to alter time in a nominal fashion, there are two ways of doin this. the first, mentioned above would be for the practicioner and that practioners percieving consciousness alone. (this is not to say that in this case one could not theortically still affect changes within time-space...you would just have to be IN time-space to do so. The second would be to try and effect other peoples perception of time-space flow. if the first option would take lifetimes + to accomplish, this second is cartoon silly. theoretically you would need to be a very good psychic because you would have to screw with their minds to change how they saw time to how you wanted them to........hmmmm....it is possible though.
Thanks S_D, it's always good to hear your opinion's and advice.[:D]
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Logic would that mean, the user or someone would feel a different speed in the flow of time, say.. listening to music that sounds like its only playing at half speed, when the program / discman is functioning properly.
It would sound half speed, but the same tone because your ears would have the same rate of time as the sound. Your spirit's perception of time would be slower.
Yea, this has happened to me a number of times. I listened to alot of shpongle in the summer, and I noticed alot after I was walking home or finished skating or something, that when I listened to the song it sounded extra slow, because I know the intervials between most of the beats by heart in the song 'Behind Closed Eyelids'. Same tone, exactly, but alot slower, atleast half the speed, and I was 100% sure that I wasnt just imagining it. And no I was not stonned when any of this happened.
Well do you know any techniques to enhance this skill called lentation.[:)]
Mmm.. become very physically active or learn how to control adrenaline.
I skate board, but I wouldn't know where to start on how to control my adrenaline.[:)]
Well, I guess it would be controlled with some deep meditation and creative visualization, such as the adrenaline you get fromt he first time you get vibes, or when your chasing some one. I notice that when I come in from skating really hard, when I close my eyes and wash my face I notice a light, which turns into a rainbow colored black hole, or some big source of light, then it dissapeares and when I listen to my music, I guess I lentate? Some food for thought..
Thanks for the Info Logic.[:)][;)][:)]
heres some bovine excrement i jsut wana say,
A blackhole is a protal between 2 time space contumes, The volicty of light and speed would do this to enter a diffrent part of time , future past or present. Basicly, yes it would take time to do such a thin as that, But when u sya lifetime+, what if in prevoius life u trained it to udnerstand the energy itself, i belive the skills would mvoe on onyl to inhearte and understand after a long perod of time.
To me u cannot alter time just by your mind, or being a pychic. I cwalifie it as astral travel, This goes under the same group as teleportation wtich most poeple belive is bullcrap but are wrong to waht i think. Basicly Since the astral and pychal world as we call them are interlinked, Combined together to form one great thing. So if you where able tot ravel from the pyschal to astral and back u could teleport or basicly control time as i would say. I belive no humana can accheice time control by there mind, But think thsi way. In the astral world if u understand ti well u can fly u can be where u want. I am working on this now to try and understand it. When u wana be where you want to be and be as if it was real in the physcal world you would travel threw the stral world. Cuss in astral time does not exist. TIme is what you make it in pychsical. In astral any speed or and movment can happen. So i would recomment trying astral instead of pychcal. Cuss like i said astral basicly anything is possible if u belive it. But u can still try what u belive :)
I really bonked up on that my bad. Think of a black hole, 2 diffrent ends at diffrnt tiem contumes, Think of this as pyschal and astral. To move from one to the other would effect time itself am i right? As of the astral was 5 min behind normal pyschal time itself. YOu could alter things itself moveing from one to another
Well now! Now that we have astrophysisist Foas here to document all this wonderful information about physical and astral black holes, as opposed to my unrelated visual description of residual images of something that looks like a black hole.
Anyone who has studied astrology or astrophysics knows what a black hole is, and the idea of blackholes being portals between two time continuum's is rediculious. Black holes are a common remenant of an incredibly massive star or stars, usually stars considerably larger than ours, tend to die with more than a whimper. These stars massive as they be, release the final ammount of their energy after fusing its fuel into iron, which cannot be fused to produce more energy. The star then begins to collapse on itself, as no more energy can be produced, and the force of the collapse releases an immense explosion and release of light and energy unmeasurable to anything in the universe.
In some odd cases, immense stars leave behind no core, such as a white dwarf or neutron star, but instead leave behind dense gasses and the gravity in which the star possesed. This free floating matterless gravitational energy is a black hole, the physics behind which, are somewhat abstract.
At a close enough point towards the black hole, the event horizon, gravitational energy is so strong, not even light can escape it, the escape velocity is massive multiples of C, which is even theoretically impossible. Any physical matter at this point would be stretched almost into spahgetti before entering the singularity, thus anything alive would be dead instantaneously.
Inside the singularity, the point inside of the force of gravity, the laws of physics as we know it do not exist, but as observations reveal, that anything inside of a blackhole would be crushed, melted and squeezed beyond explanation, since inside of the singularity, gravitational force, heat and pressure are infinite.
As to where your idea of time portals come from, Foas, black holes have nothing to do with temporal mechanics or physics in anyway, let alone the fourth dimension, except for the fact that time would slow down upon nearing of the event horizon. (approaching the speed of light) Which is another case..
Anyways, thanks for trying to diminish the legitimacy of my experience by sharing your opinions on unrelated matters, without any evidence or reason. Thats my two sense.
I don't think i've ever seen someone have so many typo's in my life.
I don't remember where I heard this but, someone told that if you where to spend like a month or two in the vortex of the black-hole and came out that it would be like if you had been there for 6 months. I highly doubt that you can even get out of it considering that light can't even escape it's gravitational pull (Black hole) but, I want to here some opinions on it. Hey mabey its possible let me know.[;)]
Logik, YOu love being right dont you?, YOur saying that the more poeple that agree with a concept are right?, Have you been within a black hole, near one experanced it in any way? No you havn't. And as i said THink Of as a thought. YOur just Like Christans OH dont think what me and my bodys do or your a moron and should die. YOu make me sick. And agian it was a fuckign example. When you astro porject into the astral plains IT a blackhole itself to me. Not the speed and so on. Have you ever even been there or even read on i dought it.
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those are as many as i could get, i might of missed some...
after a while i kind of got anoyed, it's irritading reading something with 37+ typo's (including both posts)
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Logik, YOu love being right dont you?
Sure do, dosent stop you from acting like a moron, and spell my name right please.
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YOur saying that the more poeple that agree with a concept are right?
err, when did I say that? dont put words in my mouth.
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Have you been within a black hole, near one experanced it in any way? No you havn't. And as i said THink Of as a thought.
Maybe I did, well anyways I dont understand most of the other jibberish right there.
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YOur just Like Christans OH dont think what me and my bodys do or your a moron and should die.
roflmao
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YOu make me sick. And agian it was a fuckign example. When you astro porject into the astral plains IT a blackhole itself to me.
How is 'porjecting' and example of anything?
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Not the speed and so on. Have you ever even been there or even read on i dought it.
Ahh, well I don't really care what you said right there, because your wrong and babbling.
Well, next time you try to say something, please let something besidse utter stupidity come out of that mouth of yours. I'd love to have an intelligent conversation with you, if such a thing exists.
Ok, either your 8 years old and can hardly spell. Or you were red, furious with anger typing like a mad man trying to insult Logic.. I could see you right there smashing your keyboard with your fingers with peices flying everywhere. Well most of that was a joke, but how sad is it to say "dought".... you need to go back to school, or get h00ked on phonix
Out of topic (kind of) but, Stephen Hawkins talked about blackholes/Wormholes and time travel in "A Brief History of Time: From the Big Bang to Black Holes (1988)." At the same time, some other physicists don't agree with his ideas...
I think I read that time is influenced by gravity. Like, if you go in a rocket/spaceship and travel in space and then come back 25 years later, it will be like 50 years did pass.
Thank you Nagual, at leat someone answered my question.[:(!]
You guys where propably just busy......[:)]
LOL, Ya i was being a know it all i guess, Sorry for the bad typing hard to type when you smoke. Very bad habbit. Im sorry man, I need to start typing slower so poeple can actully read it LOL. Well i wanted to make an example. Thus i thought of a black hole. To me i belive in steven hawkens belive. Where a black hole is an intlink between 2 dementions of time. Then i thought of astral. When you enter the astral plain is it not like entering a diffrent Univers or being?. What i ment. When poeple Start to get into the astral you can see that they can almost do what ever they want there. Isn't The astral linked with the pyschal? I belive so as so do other poeple i know, but u may not so i wont argue LOL!. So if you where in astral wouldnt it be able to make someone like a black hole if you where skilled? To alter time in the psychal since they are inner linked?. You guys can talk excrement to me all i want hehe, Not like i care for life anymore
Nagual, your right about this, gravity can easily distort and alter the space-time continuum, which is one of the main focus' of the superstring theory. Using thesde incredibly small strings of mass to distort gravity, and perhaps propel objects at such a speed, that they would either surpass C or slow down the procession of time for the experiencer.About the space thing though, that dosent have to do with gravity, it has to do with velocity.
The closer you approach the speed of light, the slower time travels for the people / objects at that specific velocity. These effects can be caused indirectly by gravity, like objects approaching a black hole, but in the end its the velocity that really determines the temporal distortion.
Talking about c, I also remember some scientists claiming they found some "particles"/things/whatever that were moving at around 1.5 times the speed of light; which was supposed to be impossible (from einstein)...
One sure thing is that we don't see the present; we only see the past. The further the object is, the further in the past we see because the photons take their time to reach us. You could visualy "travel" back in time by beating the little photons speed and catching up with the ones who reached us in the past and looking back.
Ok thanks that all I needed to know.[:)]
Namaste,
i think the particles you are referring to nagual are called tachyons. they are actually supposed to be faster than light therefore they move backwards through time. sciectist have detected what they believe are radiation emissions from their existence.
Well if they go backwords through time, What would happen if they should be forced foward? Would time rewind or would the universe be destroyed as we know it?[:)]
Does anyone think it would be possible to enter light speed during AP or LD?
Well there are no bounds in the astral dimension. So of course you would but, by the facts that shadowdancer If you travel faster than the speed of light you would start going backwards in time. Hey shadowdancer, If you do go faster than the speed of light and do travel backwards in time, how would you get back ?[:)]
Hrm but what if u didnt go backwords in time, And got skilled onther to make it where the speed of light is like your normal life speed in the real world itself. I dnt belvie tiem woudl reverse itself tho. Just as if u where running u go so fast but time is still the same isnt it?
Although anything is possible, that isnt foas.
Well foas theres a diffrence between running fast amd runnin faster than the speed of light.[:)]
of course im sure a body couldnt handle it hehe. If it is possible in the astral and the astral and pyschal are innerlinked but not like you run at the light of speed but to move at the speed such as teleportation. Dont know if you guys belive in teleportation tho hehe
Hum, funny, just saw this:
http://www.nature.com/nsu/031013/031013-10.html
Also, when I talked about travelling back in time, I said visualy... The photons of an image of the past are travelling somewhere in space (unless they collided with something)... So, by catching up on these photons, you could "see" this image of the past; but you are not in the past. You are still in the present.
It's the same for the galaxies we look at. We only see the past of those galaxies. If a galaxy is 1.000 lightyears away from us, we see what the galaxy looked like 1.000 years ago. If think it takes like 7 seconds for the sun's photons to reach us. So we see the sun 7s in the past...
OH. i get it.Hrm but if you where even able to achive the speed of light would time really matter?*Moves light speed to look up all the pretty ladys dress's [}:)] *
OH and as a programmer i am in cisco right now and i love to work on computers and i dont agree with teh test they did. Mybe for a lan t1 and anything else below. But what about fiber optic? Witch yous light itself to transfer information. Like no light would = 0 and light would = 1. This information would travel at the speed of light.
Namaste,
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Hey shadowdancer, If you do go faster than the speed of light and do travel backwards in time, how would you get back ?
hmmm.....very hypothetical questions.....well, just for fun...i think that based on the tachyon theory, yes, if you did in fact increase the vibratory frequency of your body beyond that of the frequency of light, you could very possibly, hypothetically, move "backwards" within the time space continuum....how you would get back....you might never, because you would be trying to re-enter a linear time-space consciousness perspective, and because of the very nature of the
flow of time itself, you are never able to be in the exact same place twice. in addition, give the grounds within this hypothetical jaunt back in time, that your conscousness was able to retain cognitive coherency, that would futher complicate the idea of "getting back", because your consciousness would have to expand to be able to function in a mode of relating to things and other consciousnesses in a non-linear causality based framework. hypothetically, you would not think of things as "past" or "future" and would not relate to the world around you in a temporal way, but in a purely spacial way. "Tomorrow" would become "over there", in a sense. hmmmm.......
What I find particularly interresting is "Quantum Entanglement" (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-entangle/).
http://fergusmurray.members.beeb.net/Causality.html
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The phenomenon in question is known as quantum entanglement. Briefly stated, what is happening is this: Particles which are arbitrarily far apart seem to be influencing each other, even though according to relativity this means that what seems to be causing an event from one point of view, from another point of view doesn't happen until after the effect being caused.
Namaste,
Nagual, from what i understand this is also known as non-local connectedness. i think i have also read about experiments dealing with particle spin, and how, once two particles came into contact, if they were separated again, if one particle altered its spin, the other did so, mimicing its counterpart as if it was still in spacial contact with it. its been a while, so i think that is right. :)
Does anyone know if chromokenesis is possible and are there any legidement tech. to succefuly achieve this skill.[:)]