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fredhedd

billy crystals i heard is a good place to start except he has a net worth of aobut two million dollars.  i don't have that kind of cash so instead i'd suggest the ethereal crystal attunements.  i've been attuned by tom to level six.  i've already sent the attunement for level one to you.  i sent it so that you will get it as soon as you acknowledge you want it.  it will be waiting along w the notes i sent you to your email.  the attunement should last approx.  twenty five minutes or so.  you don't have to be doing anything to receive it but if you would like to try and feel it i would suggest settlling down into a little meditation/energy state.  you should be able to attune billy now too ...i think :)


rodentmouse

wow thanks,   but  how exactly do the attunements effect my relationship with crystals??     Ive assumed  that i can store/recieve energy to and from them,  (this is my ametuer  knowledge on them speaking.....)


fredhedd

did u get the notes i sent to you in your hotmail account?


Donna

Hi,
I have heard of crystal attunement but know very little. I am getting geodes for my shop and a lot of Australian crystal jewelry. I have worked some with white quartz crystals, but still know so little. How does that attunement work?
Donna


fredhedd

i've only been attuned recently by tom.  i know what i've researched and it has all been very simple.  the notes i have been given couldn't be more simpler. so simple in fact that at first i questioned the ability to attune crystals and objects and such.  if you'd like to be attuned as well i'd glady do it.  i believe there was a post a while back when all of this was offered for free as well.  i was attuned at about that time.  i have only used the ethereal crystals energy two or three times to attune objects and to place stones in different organs and i can not honestly say how good it works.  i mostly have been dealing w/ the kundalini reiki and some of the others.  all you have to do is want the attunement for me to send it, and tom has actually shown that isn't even necessary sometimes.  the notes i have will explain what you need to know.  say the word.


Mobius

G,day RD

Definately get yourself some quartz, preferably a double terminated quartz crystal, for just about everything. Also a piece of Amethyst for your spiritual self & developing your latent psychic abilities & senses, preferably uncut & unpolished. Carry it around with you & put it under your pillow when you sleep or rest.

Get some Lapis Lazuli for developing awareness, rub it over your 3rd eye/brow chakra for stimulation or to ease over stimulation. It also helps to protect you against psychic attack.

Some rose quartz for healing & balancing your emotions as well as your heart,throat, brow & crown chakra.

These are just some cheapies that are very effective & once programed & charged, you WILL notice the difference. There are also many that coincide with your star sign & ones that are used specifically for astral travel.

All the best with your travels & good journeys

Mobius


Tom

If anyone wants to look up the "ethereal crystals" attunements, they are something which I picked up from http://www.kundalini-reiki.net and I would be glad to share all 6 of the attunements. As to explaining how it works or exactly what it does, all I can say is that it seems to work the way it is described at that web site and that I have gotten results for myself.

A friend of mine told me that crystals have energy, that they can be given more energy, and that they can act as a conduit for energy. What makes each unique is the way it modifies energy as it conducts that energy. It sounded like a crystal is a bit like having an external chakra and that they can be used just as a chakra is used.


rodentmouse

yes i got the notes fred, ive read them  before  but i wanted to know more.

Mobius,   once you use the crystals  in an energy session etc,   are the effects permenant??   e.g.   are your  psychic defenses permenantly "upgraded"   or do you choose to use crystals  whenever  you feel the  temporary benefits of them will help???


ninthplanet

Hey mobius, where would be the best place to buy these crystals.  Do you know of any online dealers?



Mobius

Hi RD

Concerning using crystals to alleviate problems, disorders, illnesses etc. They work much the same as medicine. You have a headache and you take aspirin or paracetamol. The effect of the tablets is hopefully to remove or alleviate the symptoms, but they are only temporary & don't stay in your system long enough to protect you from having a headache again.

The same goes for crystals. When you have a physical, mental or spiritual problem you pick the necessary crystal to combat or assist you with your ailment.

With psychic attack etc. you clean, charge & program a crystal & carry it around with you. While it is possible to basically upgrade your psychic/mental defences by carrying around a crystal with you, your defences don't stay upgraded when you remove the crystal. As with medicine, it is hard to make a biological change to the body when the body is constantly renewing itself, your whole body being rebuilt cell by cell.

So you either carry it around with you or keep it nearby to use in the event of a psychic attack or problem you wish to solve.

For example, a few months back I was experiencing over activity with my brow chakra/3rd eye, twas very annoying & often painful. So when I would experience discomfort, I would use some lapis lazuli or dioptase & rub it on my forhead. Obviously I couldn't walk around with this thing stuck to my head all the time, so when I was home or alone, I would pull it out & use it then, was very effective.

Ninth planet, I can't remember which of these sites has online shopping so I'll list the ones I do have & you can check them out. I've never actually bought any online as there are plenty of crystal shops nearby for me. Hope you can find something in these links.

http://www.crystalinks.com/

http://www.crystalinstitute.com/

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/crystal/crystala.html

http://www.mineralminers.com/

http://www.bkminerals.gil.com.au

http://www.collierscrystals.com.au

Good journeys guys

Mobius


rodentmouse

ok mobius,   i will probably buy  some quartz  to begin with.

now,  how would i go about using it??

 ive assumed that  you  lay down and rest it  over  whatever chakra  you wish to balance....    if this is the right way,  do you have to use any visualisations to  harness its powers,  or  do you simply  lie back and  let the crystal do its work????


kakkarot

well, a couple of mage friends of mine were explaining to me crystals and gems work, and that it is by refining, or changing, the energy that gets passed through them. and if this is true then it means that both just letting it happen, and actively using them work. after all, a person's energy field exists for a small ways around their body.

anyone else know more?

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

Mobius

Hey RD

First you need to clean/clear your crystal, not only of physical residues left on it's surface, but psychic energies as well, left on it from other people. Check out the link for more on this.

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/crystal/clear.html

Then you need to charge & program the crystal for YOU & the purposes you wish to use them for. Check out this link too for more.

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/crystal/charge.html

Once this is accomplished, you simply use it in conjunction with your thoughts & skin contact with your body. For example, you wish to activate a chakra. After cleaning, charging & programming, you place it over your chakra in combination with your mind focused on the task you wish to accomplish.

Quartz not only has perfect timing (thats why they use them in quartz watches) but has both piezoelectric & pyroelectric properties, meaning pressure &/or heat will change it's effects & abilities.

You can use it to amplify, focus, store, transfer or transform energy. It can be used to communicate with plants, animals & intelligent forces outside the physical dimension. Can be used to facilitate speaking & receiving information to & from spiritual & other worldly masters, teachers & healers.

Whenever worn or carried, it acts as a physical and mental energizer, it also enhances and protects the aura and provides for amplification of the enrgy field of the body.

What I have allready written is only a fraction of what quartz can do, I'm a bit pushed for time at present so I cant write out the other 8 pages of information on clear quartz. Most of the information I've have written about has come from some personal experience & web sites, but mainly from a most excellent (BUT EXPENSIVE!) book on crystals called " Love is in the earth, a kaleidoscope of crystals" by "Melody".

Kakkarot, yes you are right, the aura or the energy field around the body extends out a small way from the body. If you were to wear a piece of quartz & have some kirlian photography done, you would see a great difference between a picture taken while not wearing a quartz crystal. While wearing them, it definately appears as though the bodies energy field has been extended. I've done this experiment myself at a place called "The Crystal Castle".

Once programmed, it is fine to simply have it laying in your house somewhere, as it CAN still benefit you by just being around. Holding one is better, but having one in the first place is better than not at all.

Good journeys all

Mobius


kakkarot

this reminds me. i have a crystal (i don't know what kind) right now. but the problem is: it's broken. i accidentally threw it in the washer and dryer (dang pockets). i have two pieces right now (a big piece and a bigger-than-shattered-crystal piece). the break was not clean (very rough and uneven surface at the break points). however, putting energy through it does a very strange thing to the energy that comes out. the energy feels very disrupted, or unorganized, or something like that: i can't think of a precise enough word yet. i haven't tried anything with the energy yet, and i think i will get one of those mage friends to do something with it first, to "see what they can see".

and on a side note: one of those mage friends says he did something to one of the pieces, but isn't telling me what. the big piece feels somewhat less "clear", but doesn't feel polluted in any way. it feels like there is a foreign energy in the bigger piece, but it also feels as though that energy may help in some way. the energy that comes through it also feels somewhat different, but seeing as there was a two week period between when i used my crystal before he did something to it and using it after he did something to it, it's kinda hard to tell.

the smaller piece is to small for me to feel anything from.

i think i'm gonna hurt him if he doesn't tell me what's up. j/k.  :)

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

Mobius

Hey Kakkarot

Mate, throw the broken crystal away, unless it can be salvaged by being re-cut. Put it in the garden or something, it's not worth it to hold onto it.

Also, if someone has given you a crystal or touched your crystal, make sure you clean it, charge it & re-program it for yourself. Anything someone else wishes to do for you regarding one of your crystals, can be done by you. Unless it is the "laying" on of crystals by a crystal healer, always clean your crystals if someone has touched them, ESPECIALLY a "friend".

Btw, to sir rodentmouse, I just realised I abbreviated your name to RD instead of RM....................apologies.

Good journeys

Mobius


kakkarot

me thinks you are too paranoid mobius. i don't worry about what they did to it too much. they wouldn't do anything harmful, and if it is a joke then i can get rid of it later. i was just mentioning it as kind of "small talk"  :)

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

Mobius

Okie Dokie

Mobius


kakkarot

yeah, he finally told me what he did to it. he put a weak spell in it to leech (emotional) energy from the surrounding area. the idea behind it was that i would instinctively put up a shield to block it, and that way when i go to play d&d with him and the other guys, i would have a shield in place that he wouldn't be able to subconsciously penetrate and leech my energy. i don't think it is working properly though. the energy feels very inert. but whatever.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

rodentmouse

Mobius,    i   bought a crystal  on friday... a  "rose quartz".....
so far i  have  noticed nothing  in terms of anything.

I bathed it in salt water first,   this is what that rainbowcrystal link said do.

Then  i programmed  it,    my intention was to  charge it with  positive,  feel-good energy,   so  i could  walk around with it,  as if  i was imbued with calm because of the crystal.

This  did not work.

I  then  mentally asked  the crystal  to  do help me however it can,   then  rested it over my brow chakra.

There was nothing significant here either.

unfortunatly I  took it out with me today and lost it *drat*   so ill  get another when i get some bread.

Basically mobius,  am i expecting to much,  or am i programming it wrong etc????   I  would liek to explore crystals a lot !!!

thanks anyway :D


Mobius

Hi rodentmouse

Rose quartz is good stuff I find, but I don't use it as often as clear quartz. Rose quartz emits a calming, cooling energy which can work on all chakras to remove negativity & re-instate forces of self healing & love. Helps to clarify emotions, healing emotional wounds & restores the mind to harmony. It is especially useful on the heart & crown chakra.

If you choose to get rose quartz again, use it on your heart & crown chakra mainly. I gather you are a male, so for a male, touch the crystal on your skin or just above it & for the crown, make small circles in a clockwise direction on the top of your head. For the heart chakra rotate it anti/counterclockwise direction over your heart.

When I first started using crystals a few years ago, they were packed away on about 2 or 3 ocassions, as I thought, this is stupid, it's doing nothing. Then I decided to give it a real go & decided to use them daily over a period of a few months, which changed my mind on the matter. I found that if I placed the cystals on me or held them while doing some meditation or NEW after charging & programming the crystal, it REALLY helped.

Yes, you may be expecting too much for your first few attempts, it takes a little while to perceive the energies involved & to become sensitive to them. I guess it's a lot like OBE's, even when you know how to do them, it's still hard to induce them on demand. The conditions have to be just right.

Also, try cleaning your crystal in fresh water, the sea & rivers, streams are good. Tap water bad, distilled or spring water is good.

Take the piece of rose quartz & program it something like this. "I want you to help me with keeping balanced emotions" or " I want you to help me with healing myself", you must be specific.you cannot just say "whatever it is you do crystal, or whatever properties you have, please give them to me". You have to know what the tool does. Kinda like, you wouldn't buy a screwdriver & expect it to undo bolts, when you need a spanner to do that.

Lay down or sit down & if you are right handed, hold the crystal in your left hand. If you are left handed, hold it in your right hand.Just sit still holding the crystal for about 5 mins before programming. When you decide to begin asking the crystal to help you with a task, ask your higher self or a guide to help you with the request. Once you begin, speak the words & focus energy on the crystal repeating the words 20 to 30 times over, which re-inforces it. Then place the crystal over your 3rd eye & repeat the words but this time mentally, visualising sending energy from your 3rd eye into the crystal.

Another thing I discovered with crystals was filling them with white light & then placing them on your 3rd eye, this must be done through visualisation.

I've been trying to track down scientific studies into the validity of cleansing, charging & programming crystals, but not much stuff as yet. I guess it's a bit like our OBE's, not much "scientific proof" as yet, but as with OBE's, I'm not too concerned as to what science thinks, I'll do it regardless.

Good journeys

Mobius


rodentmouse

thanks mobius that helps a lot....

Does this mean i should know what a crystals  properties and powers are before i   buy one.  I bought a rose quartz  but had no idea what its properties were-   therefore,   do i have to assume  that all  existing literature on  the properties of crystals  are  true????

e.g.   you say get some Lapis  for developing awareness yes???

this is why  i asked the rose quartz  to "show"  me its powers,   because i would  preffere  to explore  crystals  in a more subjective mannor.


Mobius

G,day m8

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"Does this mean i should know what a crystals properties and powers are before i buy one"............................Yes, it does help, but at the same time you can seek out a crystal without knowing the one you are after to begin with as well. Choosing a crystal can be done in a few different ways, but the 2 primary methods of choosing are 1) You wish to develop a certain part of yourself or heal yourself & so you look up crystals in a "quality" crystal book, find the task you wish to accomplish & then look at the corresponding crystals that can perform that task & then go shopping for a good one. Ones without imperfections like cracks, chips,streaks or clouding are the more powerful crystals (unless they come like that), but these are also very expensive. Kinda like, you wouldn't buy your girlfriend a diamond ring with a blob or crack in the middle of it, it might cost you less, but the effect will be the same as the price................less.

Method 2) is, you use the "let the crystal find you". This is done on a subconcious level. You go to a crystal shop & just look at first, then subconciously let your body tell you what crystal it "needs" or "wants" to further develop yourself or to fix something. So you look first & narrow down the field of ones you "feel" will benefit. Then you actually pick up a few, hold them for a few seconds & see if you get this feeling you need to buy this one. The reason may not be apparent at the time of why you chose a particular crystal, it may reveal it's purpose weeks or months later.

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do i have to assume that all existing literature on the properties of crystals are true????......................No, there are many CRAP crystal books out there, some of them seem to have abilities & properties that overlap, but some seem like they have made it all up. The book I mentioned earlier by "Melody" is a great one & seems to be the most authorative book for crystal users. She has a Bachelor of Science & a Master of Arts in Mathematics, so she isn't just some tripper. Her books make the others look like they are written by amateurs.

Yes, Lapis is an excellent stone & probably my favourite besides Amethyst & Clear Quartz. In the melody book it is described as "the stone of total awareness". I use it a lot on my 3rd eye/brow chakra & to be open to esoteric information.

Regarding your last question, who knows, maybe there IS something else yet undiscovered that makes the properties of a crystal subjective & somehow affects or works with the unique make up of that individual. I'm sure that there are many things that is yet to be discovered regarding crystals & many new applications may be found. For the moment, I just stick with the information I have & experiment with what I'm told they CAN do, & I'll find out the things that isn't written about, in time.

Good journeys

Mobius



pod3

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_sleepy.gif" border=0>Don't mean to confuse, but you can successfully attune anything for any purpose, and it will work accordingly. For that matter, a projection of energy will do the same for free.


Mobius

G,day Pod3

You are right, a projection of energy will do the same for free. I believe though, that we are non physical beings having a physical experience in a human body. We still have our non physical selves to gather information & experiences, but we need new experiences & have to learn lessons in the physical body we are in right now to totally experience it. A bit like saying I have seen the pyramids on t.v & through projections, but my physical body has never experienced the actual feeling of being there.

I see the same thing with crystals. I COULD just read about them & try & duplicate some of their abilities, but I feel it is important for the body I am in to physically experience it & learn lessons.

Good journeys all

Mobius


dazy mable

Hello,
I'm new here, but was wondering if anyone has ever used labradorite as an energy tool?  Its been a favorite of mine, and I have found very little info on it other than its a type of feldspar.

  Regarding places to buy crystals, there are societies and clubs that put on rock and gem shows, which are a great place to buy them at a less expensive price. Some rock shops have flyers by the register, or online web calendars that show where and when they're being held.:)