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Title: Demonic War
Post by: Jonas K strand on May 23, 2003, 15:07:03
demonic war? hmm... sounds so... unbelevable to me. shouldn´t say to much though. maby i stand there with a little sword and a silly shield fighting demons one day. wouldn´t surprice me since im not the most wise and updated in this forum.

but the thaught hit me that this waridea would be a great way to make people really start developing themselves and maby it is. or maby its just true that a demonwar is coming.

have a nice day boys!

jonas
Title: Demonic War
Post by: MJ-12 on May 23, 2003, 15:29:01
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Title: Demonic War
Post by: Kiflarer on May 23, 2003, 15:47:47
well i realy need information about this demonic war SOMEONE PLEASE GIMME INFO
Title: Demonic War
Post by: AngelicSaiyan on May 23, 2003, 16:07:52
That memo must've not crossed my desk.  Sounds like some sort of made up quatrain.
Unless it has to do something with the ongoing threat of terrorism (like i give monkey's nads about anyways)
or something related to some war talked about on most futuristic sci-fi channel stuff
"The french in 2112" -- Michael Garibaldi

Plus, I do not think it is that easy to do some sort of dimensional travel.  Makes me think bogus

(Not an attempt to flame)
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 23, 2003, 18:33:15
if there is any sort of war in 2012, it will abruptly end. i've read up on a lot of prophecies and material by zecharia sitchin, and it's my belief that 'planet x'.. nibiru (nibiru literally means 'planet of crossing' in sumerian) is going to be discovered between 2012 and 2013. they've (the annunaki, literally 'those who from heaven to earth came') passed by us plenty of times in the past, with different results. the planet nibiru itself always effects us by its gravitational pull, causing the activation of the ring of fire, once causing the great deluge of the bible, etc. but what the annunaki themselves do can't be foretold.

prophecies tell of a great war leading into the 'day of the lord', which was misinterpreted from the very beginning to be the day someone returned to earth, whether a messiah, jesus, god himself, or whomever. the sumerians and other ancient civilizations also knew of such a day, but to them the day of the lord was the perihelion of the 10th planet, their 12th planet (they counted the sun an moon as such celestial bodies and knew of the other planets), when the planet became plainly visible in the sky. they spoke of nibiru as the lord, and in their epic tales, it was a sign of a great king for that king to have his name associated with the lord.

when the planet passed by every 3600 years (the planet has an orbit similar to a comet. see this page: http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html ), the annunaki somehow effected intelligent life (us, or our ancestors). the last time nibiru passed by, an ice age was wrapping up and the ice caps were huge and could be easily thrown off balance. they decided to let us die in a great flood caused by the ice caps being pulled off into ocean waters due to nibiru's gravity, because some of the annunaki (considered gods and divine) had had sex with the earthlings, and the earthlings were having sex with some of the gods (some 'gods' were still on earth, maintaining their colonies on this planet that was so alien to them). the leading annunaki frowned on this, and thought of it as immoral. men were said in ancient texts to have become evil and lustful, and that was the cause of the deluge... however, enki, the leader of the first mission to earth, told ziusundra (biblical noah, a follower of enki), that the flood was coming, and to prepare. enki felt bad about letting the all the people of ancient earth die, people that he had helped create. he was also jealous at his brother enlil for seizing command of the earth missions when it was rightfully his own, and willing to betray an oath he had taken to tell a human the news of the upcoming event.

so the last time they passed by, it wasn't such a pleasant thing. but all the passings previous to the great flood were beneficial to the human race, at least while the annunaki themselves had already evolved on their home planet. i could go through and list all the events, each *coincidently* occuring in increments of approximately 3600 years (there is no real way to pinpoint the first day, or even first 100 years, of the neolithic period, for example.), but this is already lengthy and i loaned the book out to a friend.

there are three possibilites as to what the annunaki will do when they come back around and see what we've been up to since last year (last year to them. again, see this page: http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html ) :



so theres my opinion..

if they decide to finally wipe us out for good (i doubt this. prophecies of the negative possibility tell of a loss of 2/3 of the population of earth, not all men.), then there's not much we can do. we're screwed... but they are much more evolved than us, so hopefully they will be wise in their decision. when the dinosaurs were evolving here, they were evolving there, and we are only hybrids of them, half alien, half primate. so... just hope enki's family has came to power, because he was the more forgiving and understanding one.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: ss_majin_gohan on May 23, 2003, 20:14:00
I have never heard ANYTHING like what you just said no_leaf_clover..... LOL! I didn't really understand much, I am not saying that you are wrong because we all have our own opinions, but I don't really believe it. I guess I will find out someday. As for the war with the demons thing, I think that would be pretty kool, I should study some of the Bible and pray on it, maybe I can figure more things out that way.......
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 23, 2003, 21:11:01
once you see all the evidence and hear the whole story, it makes more sense than you may think. the theory just accounts for so many things, and it wasn't developed by a single man, some berzerk-o nutball. it was developed by whole civilizations, and to them it wasnt theory, it was daily life. the egyptians, the sumerians, the assyrians, the chaldeans.. we just take their history and say 'we'll, this must've been their mythology.' but nowhere do they say that this was just a simple mythology.. and though the greeks took their mythology seriously too, the greeks really just had a more time-warped version of the sumerians' stories.

it's all a matter of how modern times interprets things. and things that seem this far-fetched obviously arent taken up right away, though they make a lot of sense. but, it is seeping through, as sitchin says. [;)]
Title: Demonic War
Post by: ss_majin_gohan on May 23, 2003, 21:23:18
okeedokee, like I said before, everyone has their own beliefs.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: SpiritPathwalker on May 23, 2003, 22:09:40
Not including any ancient beliefs, here what I see now:

 Lot of people have let their inner demons take over these days, from the Colombine Shooters to thouse who wrecked into the two towers, and plenty of others who havn't done enough to make world news, but have been very distructive.

 While it'ed be nice to think that anyone who done this just goes away to some sorta hell which they can never return, the similarities between "negs" and ppl who let their own inner demons take over are way to close, perhaps after they die still not done trying to cause harm.

 Assuming that alot of 'em gathering, and could break though to physical existance (not sure how), it might be possible that they'ed start a war against whatever exists (humans, aniamls, heck even buildings and plants, it exists, someone who has their inner demons in control would want to destroy it).

 Not saying a war will or won't happen, or any guesses as to when, but if one would happen, that'ed be my guess as to why.

-Soulwolf Pathwalker
Title: Demonic War
Post by: MJ-12 on May 24, 2003, 02:20:22
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Title: Demonic War
Post by: cainam_nazier on May 24, 2003, 18:00:31
That depends on what "version" you are talking about.  no_leaf_clover has one version of this.  However there is another that I have seen in dreams that many others have had also.

This being the actual physical manifistation of various demon-kin on the earth.

Those that share the same belief as myself see a war erupting that will begin man vs. man.  This war althought faught man against man will be instigated by evil/demonic forces.  In the confusion of this global war we will begin to see things like the dead walking, ghouls, ghosts, and goblins creeping into our world.  They will of course only be paving the way for larger and stronger demon folk.  Man kind will be forced to unite against this new force or be destroyed.

Also for us who have been having these dreams this is something that will start sooner than people think, or rather sooner than they think the world is going to end.  We see this starting in 3 to 5 years.  We believe that the apex of this battle will be around 2012 but it will start sooner.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Kiflarer on May 25, 2003, 00:02:18
its that version your talking about that i wanted thanks for the info oh one thing i am from belgium so i dunno what a ghoul is whats a ghoul?
Title: Demonic War
Post by: cainam_nazier on May 25, 2003, 05:12:35
A ghoul...It is a misc undead thing, usually a person, that retains some of its previous lifes intelligence.  Instead of just being the walking dead, its a walking and thinking dead.  They are also normally considered the servant of a stronger entity, and oftend looked at as being forced into its role.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 25, 2003, 10:31:27
mj-12, we've been led to believe that life can ONLY exist in an environment nearly identical to earth. we've been told that life MUST exist on water and oxygen, and have heat, etc. this is because we are the only living things that we have proof of, here on earth. and until recently it was believed that life would not survive without sunlight, either directly or indirectly. this idea was shattered on our own planet, when we found all those creatures living off the hot vents in the ocean.

its obvious that life doesnt have to have oxygen, heat, etc., to exist and evolve. i'm sure you've read reports of asral wildlife. i doubt they use ANYTHING physical to survive.

so basically you just have to be more open-minded when it comes to life.

as for nibiru, one can't be sure how they survive, and the sumerians never recorded any history of nibiru, but just of what happened to them and some creational epics. but it is NOT impossible for them to survive on a planet reaching that far into space without heat. one guess is thermal heat. in the sumerian epic of creation, nibiru entered the solar system as a huge flaming ball, and they compared it to the sun, only a lot smaller, but brighter. they said it was a bright white light that shined like the gold of the gods or something similar to that. so thermal heat is a possibility. their atmospheres can also be such that easily hold heat for many thousands of years, and that isn't so far-fetched either. dr sitchin shows evidence that the whole reason the annunaki came here to establish a colony in the first place was that they needed gold for their atmoshpere. if we had gold in our atmosphere, or enough of it, we would be frying like venus, if not hotter. so maybe the people of nibiru have a warm summer season near the sun, and then it gradually cools over the rest of the orbit. or it could be a combination of atmosphere and thermal heat, like we have. like i said, no one really knows, but it is definetely possible.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 25, 2003, 14:33:12
Look there aint gonna be any war.  Sheesh.  I could go around spreading that in 2012 A gigantic teddy bear will rise from the center of the earth and kill us all with his laser beams shooting from his huge button eyes.  You wouldnt believe me.  Same way I don't beleive you.

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 25, 2003, 19:21:38
it doesn't really matter what you believe now [:)]
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 25, 2003, 23:48:23
Yep. No war.  Don't go buffing up or nothing like that.  Not gonna happen.  How am I so sure?  Oh I don't know.  Maybe just the whole irreverance of the whole thing.  If this all started the way I think it started, then I know how it spread, and I know how to finish it off.  But I wont go into that today.  No war, AIGHT?  Ain't nothing gonna happen in 2012.  Cool?  Yay.  Hope someone backs me up on this.  It's 2 am and Im half asleep, but the point still stands.

No war.  Stop yelling about it.

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: JonProject on May 26, 2003, 00:45:15
I'm not sure whether or not there will be another war in 2012 but I am pretty sure something significant will happen. I don't know why, I just feel it. Could also be the lateness of the night, hey who knows. Oh one more thing for you guys to ponder over. The whole 2012 apocolyptic idea is actually part of many societal beliefs/religions. Did you know that the Incan calender ends in 2012? Not quite sure why though...
Title: Demonic War
Post by: JonProject on May 26, 2003, 00:46:40
quote:
Originally posted by JonProject

I'm not sure whether or not there will be another war in 2012 but I am pretty sure something significant will happen.  I don't know why, I just feel it.  Could also be the lateness of the night, hey who knows.  Oh one more thing for you guys to ponder over.  The whole 2012 apocolyptic idea is actually part of many societal beliefs/religions.  Did you know that the Incan calender ends in 2012?  Not quite sure why though...

Title: Demonic War
Post by: Terry B on May 26, 2003, 06:56:37

The Mayan calendar doesn't say anything about a war or the world will end. Basically the calendar ends in 2012 (something to do with mathematics and cycle of time). So what, it has ends before, starts again and will do so again (until the world ends, heh). It has something to do with change but not the end of the world like what some people think. This is just a misuse of their calendar. If you really want to know you can try searching this forum for some older thread.

It would be great if a big nothing happens (or something so subtle happens that it's like nothing ever happen).

Fear can be powerful but not uber powerful.[|)]


Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 26, 2003, 14:57:05
civilizations on central america are also tied into sitchin's work.. don't start yawning, yet, there's actually some good evidence.

just to give background information, the olmecs were the first civilization on central america. they created huge rock statues of heads. what were peculiar about the statues was that the heads that the statues were based on had distinctly african features. that is to say, the people on the statues had the same facial features as black people. black people were supposed to have been in africa around this time. it was early native americans that were supposed to have been down in central america, not people of african origin. now backing evidence for sitchin..

first of all, there's the amount of time it would've taken people to migrate to north america. it was originally thought the mayas and incas were the first civilizations in central america. it is know known that the olmecs were the first, and were there some at some 1500 bc at the latest, but this time keeps moving back farther as the scientific community reluctantly gives in to logic. the olmecs were originally thought to be no older than 250 bc, then 500 bc, then 1250, and now 1500 bc. sitchin claims they were there in 3000 bc. the people coming from asia on the land bridge would have had to be hauling tail. [:)]

the dates on the olmec calender, which was where the incan and mayan calenders later derived, share important dates with the egyptian calender. they also used hieroglyphics, just as the egyptians and other 'primitive' civilizations (robert bruce himself says in astral dynamics, when on the topic of symbolism, that the ancient hieroglyphs such as egypt's aren't really primitive, and hints that they were more advanced than even our modern scripts, as they incorporated symbolism in their writing). i wouldnt be surprised if in the near future, scholars discover that the olmecs' hieroglyphics are just a slightly different form of the egyptians'.

another piece of evidence is a small toy elephant that was found in the remains of an olmec community. it was made of clay, with the most distinct elephant characteristics. whats weird about this? elephants are native to africa and very southern asia alone. how could the olmecs have known what an elephant looked like unless they had actually seen one themselves? did they pass down specific details as to what it looked like from generation to generation as they came down through america only to make a toy of it? i seriously doubt it, as would anyone else with any sense.

sitchin's conclusion is that the olmecs were from africa. they were carried there by the annunaki ("those who from heaven to earth came" to the sumerians). that's basically it. i haven't got to the fourth book of the earth chronicles, which goes into more detail about the mesoamerican civilizations, but if you want a source, here's a link to sitchin's article on the missing elephant toy:

http://www.sitchin.com/elephant.htm

it also recaps most of what i just said, only in a more organized manner, as sitchin has been a reporter and writer for longer than i've been alive.

so those calenders were based on dates set by the annunaki, who knew exactly when their planet would be back around. thus, the ancients knew of the dates when such things would happen. everything suddenly falls into place and fits perfectly into history when you accept sitchin and his work.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: anjiera on May 26, 2003, 17:02:55
I'm not sure exactly how this ties in but: one of my friends told me about an African prediction about the end of the world where some evil spirit or another will come from the under world to earth...not sure how true that is but it sure sounds a lot like the christian "end of the world" thing...

another thing interesting about that date is that it is on the uil-iok. that is a day associated with death and the end of the world and all that stuff... I'm not quite sure if there will be a war but i'm open to the possibility.

p.s. i'm too tired to worry about the spelling so please exceuse me.[:D]
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 26, 2003, 17:16:40
i guess when nibiru passes by again it isn't going to be a very positive experience whether they're trying to kill us or not, but things are pointing towards a killing off of masses of people. it's not a good sign that enki has been reported to be guiding and teaching in the astral, along with plato and other famous characters. i hope this doesn't mean enki has died, and if he has, hopefully someone from his line is currently ruling nibiru. he was the one who preserved mankind during the deluge by telling ziusudra to build a ship. enlil was the one that conspired to have us die by not telling us about the oncoming catastrophe. their families continued being rivals on earth up until 'when the gods fled from earth'. if an heir of enki is on the throne, we might not have to worry about much. enlil is of a slightly more merciless line..
Title: Demonic War
Post by: kai on May 28, 2003, 02:31:12

I'm not sure if this is related to this subject and I'm sorry for barging in but I heard something on another forum a couple of months ago which at the time didn't mean anything to me but now sort of fits in with this. So here goes...

There was this one person who just showed up out of the blue never herd from him before and he started ranting stuff like prepare for the war, a war will soon be coming we must prepare... and things like that.

Some of the people who had been in the forum longer than me started discussing it and it turns out that they have also heard of a war coming and it will be held mainly in the astral realm and that much of it will be man vs man but also with other entities.

I'm not sure if this has helped in anyway to the discussion it just seemed relavent at the time.

Kai
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 28, 2003, 11:42:09
is it possible to have a war in the astral? i wouldnt be surprised if those guys were embodiments of spiritual beings.. i dont understand them but ive heard a lot about them, especially appearing to soldiers during wars and stuff.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 28, 2003, 11:47:34
Erm, double post...

Try clicking "Post New Reply" once :D

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 28, 2003, 11:51:50
yeah, i tried to edit while i was logged off. i posted 'possibly' when it should have been 'possible'. i fixed it.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: kai on May 29, 2003, 03:37:28
"is it possible to have a war in the astral? i wouldnt be surprised if those guys were embodiments of spiritual beings.. i dont understand them but ive heard a lot about them, especially appearing to soldiers during wars and stuff."

I'm not sure if it is possible to have a war in the astral but you probably could.

And if these people from the other planet are more advanced than us I guess that they might hold one in the astral.

What do you think? And where do you think this war would be held if there is one?

Kai
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 29, 2003, 05:48:57
the annunaki, the people of nibiru, are also supposed to be more advanced spiritually, so they may have a lot of experience in the astral, but i doubt they'd start a war there. if they decide they want to wipe us out anywhere, there won't be much we can do. if we try to attack them it will be to no avail. you remember that star wars program reagan wanted and busted the soviets with? the biblical 'evil' winds of 'sulfur and fire' that rained down in the upheaval of gomorrah could very well have been an atomic detonation caused by the annunaki from space, and there is much evidence backing it up, such as rocks scorched as from volcanic activity when there has never been volcanic activity in the sinai. so they had star wars millenia ago, so that's an idea of where they are technologically.

i doubt they'll wipe us out 100%. or at least i hope not. they should at least leave another 'noah' to start over.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Fat_Turkey on May 30, 2003, 01:48:16
Just a thought but - could the annunaki possibly be the same as Greys (Zetas, aliens)?????

Freaky...

But anyhoo I don't care whether this is the gospel truth or not. Sounds pretty believable to me - except for the fact that I haven't heard a word of this before in my life. Either way I'm going to prepare like there's no tomorrow because maybe what all these "prophecies" are for - to get us all worked up so we develop really fast[|)].

But I do hope that Enki's bloodline is ruling, and if they're not, we fight like there's no tomorrow. I don't care if they would be advanced - if enough of us develop like we are now, we could stand a chance!!

Either way - I feel something significant is coming. And I feel as though humans won't be entirely killed. I feel like it's a "reset" of the system whatever higher powers have incorporated. Like whatever we have now will be redone and the physical world could possibly be "reprogrammed" for a slightly better one that starts at the beginning.

Perhaps this is like Neon Genesis Evangelion. We fight against the powers that wish to control us which in turn makes us evolve to the next level and free ourselves from their control.

Later
-FT
Title: Demonic War
Post by: kai on May 30, 2003, 02:46:05

Who are greys and zetas?

I sure hope they don't wipe us all out - that would just be pure spiteful.[:(!]

But I will agree that this has given me the insentive to train harder, and maybe we all will reach a higher level of being, who knows.[:)]

Kai
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Fat_Turkey on May 30, 2003, 02:56:11
Greys and Zetas are one in the same thing. I'll keep my talk on them brief because it's dark and I HATE THEM!!!(cuz they look freaky)

To cut a long story short - aliens. Big heads, bug eyes. You get the idea.

All this talk about the creation of mankind and Noah's Ark etc. reminds me of Spriggan...mmm I wanna see it again[|)]

Later
-FT
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 30, 2003, 05:53:16
zecharia sitchin has only made guesses at what the grays are on radio shows, he doesn't really know what they are. but here's my idea:

the annunaki and grays both came from the same life form, some life form from the sirius or andromeda galaxy. the annunaki's home world, for some reason, went flying across space and ended up in our system (as ancient evidence shows) before life there had evolved, but the grays had their homeworld destroyed in a war eons ago and have been living as 'pirates' in space. they've been gradually evolving to fit their space environment, thus evolving weaker and weaker bodies, heading in the direction of a boneless mound of flesh. they abduct humans for purer sirius dna, since we are somehow related to them.

i had to go back and edit this since the first time i posted it i was really pressed for time.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: kai on May 31, 2003, 08:00:58

Cool theory[8D].

You never know you might be right.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: kai on May 31, 2003, 08:12:37

Hi

I've been searching some of this stuff on the internet and I've found a couple of websites that you might want to look at:

www.sitchin.com/
www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/sitchin.html

These were the top two of the search. I haven't read them properly yet but they might help in some way.[:)]

Kai
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 31, 2003, 09:33:06
those are good sites.. i've had the sitchin.com link on my profile.

sitchin.com is sitchin's own website, and he uses it to shed some light on modern events for his fans. if you're new to sitchin, the second link goes into more detail about what exactly he writes about, but that site is no match for sitchin's own books.

another website i recommend is http://www.vibrani.com/vibrani.htm . this site incoporates the metaphysical with sitchin's work. the owner of the site claims to have been mentored in the astral by plato and enki (sumerian "lord of earth", one of the annunaki!), among others. my ideas concerning the grays owe a lot to this page.

http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html has calculated nibiru's orbit around the sun.

and lastly, a link that shows how stonehenge mathematics point to a 10th planet beyond pluto:

http://members.aol.com/stoneequation/
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 31, 2003, 16:34:40
-.- Allow me to Take F_T's position on this...

Does anybody else find it a BIT odd that all these so called demons are only found on ... ONE site?  A site that eve I fail to percieve as reality most of the times.  Honestly.  I'm sure this guy has seen them all. >.<

There isn't going to be a war, K?  The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 because they ditched their own empire and killed themselves off a long time ago.  

Sorry if this comes as a shock to some people, but as a product of American's Educational system, that is my thesis.

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 31, 2003, 18:02:38
squeek, we're not even talking about the world ending anymore, or any demonic war x.x.. that discussion has been over a for while.. just read down the posts..
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 31, 2003, 19:09:25
I know. I read the Greys and crap like that posts.  That's what the first paragraph was about -.-

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 31, 2003, 19:20:01
first paragraph:

"Does anybody else find it a BIT odd that all these so called demons are only found on ... ONE site? A site that eve I fail to percieve as reality most of the times. Honestly. I'm sure this guy has seen them all. >.<"

again, we're not talking about demons.

all this based on one website? where've you been? it's based on scores of sites and a whole series of books! just look up 'sitchin' on google. i could sit here all day and type out the evidence for such things, and show you exactly how it fits into history, and you wouldn't make such feeble responses towards such things anymore. more like the thing you fail to perceieve as reality is reality itself.. you have to let go of what is commonly held to be 'common sense' sometimes to solve the most unexplainable mysteries.

i'm sorry if i get a little offensive, but no one understands except for the people who've actually read up and understand the situation. the information is too vast for websites to contain, and that's why websites only give the jist! the actual evidence is in the books. if you want to dismiss such things with common sense, at least know what you're dismissing. if you read up on this information, and then go back to the origins of the bible, the origins of modern civilization, and the origins of man itself, you'll realize that you are trying to debunk what actually happened with educated guesses provided by modern science. that's basically what it comes down to, and there is absolutely no point.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 31, 2003, 19:55:21
-.-

I thought what's they called were a variation of demon. Kill me.  Jeez.

I never doubted the existance of aliens, but when osmeone online tells me they look very cool when you're right up close, then I just feel like killing him.  :D  And I never denied the existance of ghosts, that's reasonable too.  But the site just seemed way far out, even for me.

~Squeek
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 31, 2003, 20:15:35
change 'even for me' to 'especially for me'

o.O... i think you're confusing me with someone else.. i didn't say aliens looked 'cool'.. lol.. i didnt say anything about ghosts either. fat turkey said grays freaked him out, but that was about all on the subject of their looks. don't presume everything off of those sites are my beliefs. if i was to look over them in detail i would probably disagree with some things myself.

next time you go to a library or bookstore, try to find the 12th planet and sit down and skim through it. you'll find it's loaded with pictures, charts, and diagrams. those figures are the meat of these theories. most are pictures of ancient hieroglyphics and drawings, but there are some figures showing orbits of planets and how nibiru fits in, ancient events in space, etc., and a chart or two describing the sumerian language and how it influenced later languages, up until today in modern english.

it's like when someone says kennedy was killed by the cia. you might say 'ah, bs. that's not true'. but then you learn that kennedy was planning on cancelling the cia, and we all know that the cia holds vast amounts of top secret information. then you find out that kennedy was killed by several bullets at once, from different angles, and it wasn't simply harvey oswald. then you might question the whole harvey oswald thing, which to this day hasn't all been accounted for.

since we're almost on the subject.. lol.. how about our landing on the moon? there's a lot of debate and controversy, so i'll just point out two facts that are hard to account for. (1) the television program of the lunar landing showed the crew take their first step onto the surface, from the moon's surface itself! now, who had already set up a camera down there facing upward to record that? and (2), buzz aldrin broke down during several television shows in the 70s or 80s (a good while after the event had actually taken place) when asked questions about his lunar mission. he would start sobbing and leave the stage, refusing to answer questions. because the trip brought back such fond memories? or because he was being praised for a huge fake-out for most of his life?

there are a lot of things out there like that.. what am i talking about? i don't know. i have yet again completely lost myself. thank you! yes, i am good at that. i could simply scroll up, but no.. that would be the easy way out. so i leave you this way.. yes..
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Squeek on May 31, 2003, 20:38:15
Sigh

I wasnt talking to you.  I was talking to the consensus of the group.

The next time I go to a library will be like 5 years in the future.  No really.

Kennedy was killed on the grassy knoll by a History Buff.  That takes care of that.

We never went onto the moon.  There is a radioactive field around the earth that contains remnants of the big bang that requires 6 inches of solid lead to pass through.  These guys had aluminum foil and fiberglass. OR OR ORRRR, If there's no air in space, why is the flag waving when there's nobody near it? ORRRRR Why are some scenes filed apparently "2 miles away" when if you photoimpose them together, they are the same. OR!! Crosshairs are etched onto photos to show reference points.  Why are some BEHIND objects in the picture?!?!  

I saw the special on fox.  It was way cool.  Stuff like dust and plumes and footprints and secret murders... (A Safety Inspector that had a 500 page essay on the failures of safety mysteriously died and his document went missing... HMMM)

I love talking about the moon.  Soon, Japan will finish a telescope powerful enough to see detail on the moon from the earth.  Some people will use it to see if there is a flag. They won't find any.  (And im convinced that that information will never get to us as it will be doctored)

~Squeek (I aint postin here no more...sheesh)
Title: Demonic War
Post by: neo on June 10, 2003, 11:33:35
if this is true or not don't take the chance train while u can or if it does happen who will defend earth. we are earths warriors, we have to protect less powerful people as it was our destiney to find out about ki and destroy evil. if it does happen we should all meet and train together, as together we are united and undefetable
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on June 10, 2003, 11:37:37
trust me.. if there is anything close to a 'demonic war', it's going to be in our best interest, and we won't be able to fight it anyway. saiyans arent coming to destroy the earth forever..
Title: Demonic War
Post by: dawnbringer on June 11, 2003, 12:22:49
Squeek, you forgot one thing, there were no stars in the thing, so that also proves it. And I agree with neo, we shud unite, but I dont think we will be unstoppable.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Neiko on June 12, 2003, 12:45:40
why are you taling about saiyans man! there are no saiyans...man! all this SH*T is BULL! END IT!!! and if any of this bull happens I grant you permission to punch me in the head and say "Itold you so!"
Title: Demonic War
Post by: dawnbringer on June 12, 2003, 14:51:19
I'm not talking about DBZ!!
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Faceless on June 13, 2003, 07:36:16
Hi, I just want to add my thoughts and also ask a question.

I have only just started reading about this and have never heard anything like it before but I already knew there is no question about the tenth planet. It exists and is inhabited by superior beings - a fact the governments know!

Also no_leaf, this question isnt to try to disprove anything, i just want to know the answer. I cant possibly imagine a force able to throw a planet out of one galaxy into another, surely the planet would have been destroyed! Does Sitchin say how this happened?
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on June 13, 2003, 11:09:00
sitchin doesnt. there's still tons of information about nibiru and the alien grays that we can't find without the aid of such things as the akashic records. the annunaki never told the sumerians anything about the history of nibiru or its people. not even anything about how they could survive the elliptical orbit. so we can only guess.. until i get astral projection down [;)]

when i get ap'ing down this summer, i'm going to be doing some really in-depth research into this stuff. some research has already been done in the akashic records and posted on a site i visit often. i dont know whether or not its accurate; ill have to check on this myself. but it sounds completely logical. the alien grays were the forefathers of the annunaki but had their home planet destroyed and are living as pirates in space. that story's posted somewhere above.

see the post in the first forum (obe discussion? the first one on the list). theres a topic in there about the coming of nibiru. someone actually had a premonition. from what i've been reading lately, about premonitions and debris entering our atmosphere and the activation of the ring of fire, i'd say nibiru is definitely getting close [:)]
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Q on June 13, 2003, 11:37:43
An interesting thing about that every 3600 years thing is if you look at the boring parts of the Bible where someone begat someone and make a chart of it, you'll see that the flood happened about 4000 years ago.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Faceless on June 13, 2003, 14:10:23
By the way, what is the ring of fire?
Title: Demonic War
Post by: no_leaf_clover on June 13, 2003, 20:03:25
the bible's older stories were passed down through the generations by the jews, because they were captured by the egyptians and enslaved, etc., etc. you can't expect exact dates, even to the year. the biblical dates are give or take *at least* few hundred years easily, but they can all fall easily within 3600-year periods, if you give or take the required amount of time.

the ring of fire is mostly the border of the pacific plate. the pacific plate is the tectonic plate under the pacific ocean (and a few small, insignificant places around it, if you want to get technical) that is known to be particularly active with volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

volcanoes and earthquakes are starting to become more active all over the world, but the ring of fire is especially active now. this is because nibiru's gravity is acting on earth's tectonic plates.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: neo on June 14, 2003, 15:23:16
for all of u butt holes who say its just someone who wathces dbz to much who dremt this all up(the end of the earth), just think about this. dbz is based on real life, the creater spent years researching ki and devolped it into the best anmei in history. anything in dbz is possible. if someone came up to u 4 years ago and said he could put u daown without even toching u u would have called him crazy, but know u know its possible, so before u say things are fake or a load of crap just remember this. the only man who knows anything is the man who knows he knows nothing!.
Title: Demonic War
Post by: Kiflarer on May 23, 2003, 14:47:57
I want some more information about the demonic war in 2012 i am preparing for it but i dont realy know wwhat it is or what it will be so i need more info please