demons???????

[Nayru]

*sighs* Again, demons are not evil. Damnit, I'm so sick and tired of all those 'demons are evil' things.. What makes people think that Demons are evil is the bible. The demons the bible speaks of are evil, yes. They are everything God isn't.

But the demons you talk about are astral creatures. Some are asses, most aren't. Most are just hanging around. I mean, do you have any idea how many demons you come across in your daily life? A LOT. Did they ever harm you? No. Did they ever tried to kill you? No.

I cannot deny that there may be some demons that will kill, but hell, if one human kills others, it doesn't mean all humans are like that, now does it? Same goes for demons.

[vikram88]

I totally agree with Nayru.

There are several astral creatures roaming around you every minute. They don't cause you harm. Although there are some negs but then again like humans not all astral creatures are bad. Some are.

Demons was just a name given by the bible to bad astral beigns who had some powers, ie they had trained in dark arts when they were in the physical forms.

So don't be scared. Just work on you'r 3rd eye and when it is open live like you are living a normal life. You won't have to fight some ghost or whatsoever, but on the other side you will come closer to these astral beigns, know about them and other things and most of all you would have done some spiritual development.

[SukiHyoujin]

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[WalkerInTheWoods]

A good way to ensure that you will be attacked and do a lot of fighting in the astral is to attack first and ask questions later. Of coarse this is true on the physical as well. Assume nothing, ask questions, the true you cannot be killed.

[Foas]

[] Damn nayro,
Very very nice i very much agree, When you pratice your third is i recommend you try it on a place you love, For i use a feild of poppys and a tree in the middle, This is basicly the plain of inlitenment to me For to me the 3rd eye is the enter another word, but most poeple Dont think of making there own world, Within my plain i have been able to have poeple come, Ive solved poeples sleep problem with this, Its just a peacful place and with this you can learn to Control energy to, It like commanding your own world, Exept if you bring evil onto your world it ant really fun, But all i will say is Practice you3rd eye on emagineing a plain that u created, Within this plane You control it, Meaning it can be what u want and nothing can enter without your Premission. If you would like To learn how i did it jsut e-mail me hehe, Trust me it helps alot! Gl my friends!

[Nayru]

quote:Originally posted by SukiHyoujin

Are these "beings" able to cast shadows over you from behind in a perfectly lit room? Or is it just my stupid delusional imaginaion? [:O]!!

No. Nobody is able to manipulate the light or dark. If it truly was a non-physical being it would have illusionated you, making it seem it's casting a shadow. But why would it do that? I highly doubt it was so, it was probably your eyesight. I have that all the time. Very annoying.

[Foas]

Very true, But the think about it being thoughts i dont belive cuss ive talked to poeple in it, and they rember me talking to them so how can it jsut be our emagination?

[vikram88]

I don't exactly know how they do it but I know it is done cause seen and even felt them. It's like dark shadows passing from beside you and it really gives you the creeps.

I think it's something related to the normal activity of every person's brow chakra. It keep on fluctuating as it is not fully developed and thus sometimes we see these astral creatures as dark shadows. Now we see them as dark shadows because this fluctuation happens at a very small fraction of a second and thus our eye is not able to judge it's colour.

[xander]

Originally posted by Nayru

*sighs* Again, demons are not evil. Damnit, I'm so sick and tired of all those 'demons are evil' thing.

I've had more pain caused from angels than any demon.

Xander

[kakkarot]

quote:Originally posted by GottaGetLow

with third eye you can see ghost demons ect.

maybe, maybe not. most likely you won't see any non-physical beings. if you do, meh. you won't neccessarily have to fight them, nor will they likely kill (torment is so much more fun for them[|)]).

as for demons being evil: most religions and cultures of the world believe in both goodly beings and evil beings (in the "balanced universe" sort of belief), demons are merely one instance of such a world-encompassing belief. by [urlhttp://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=demon]definition[/url] they are evil.

however, whether to categorize an astral being as a demon is the real problem that many people fail to understand. many just categorize astral beings the way they wishfully believe they should be categorized.

in truth, i find it rather amusing sometimes to read the posts of newbies. it shows me just how much people don't know but think they do (and serves as a reminder to myself that i may know more than them but i still have a lot to learn as well).

quote:Nobody is able to manipulate the light or dark

it's so easy to believe that, but in truth how do you know? nobody knows the full extent of what is capable of being done by us mortal beings. and i myself have seen many things (and can do a few) that others have foolishly said is impossible. after all, how many of you people have friends that think magic is impossible?

~kakkarot

[Kato]

Some demons are evil and some are not. Never temp demons because as a master of fighting demons will chalenge you.

[Mustardseed]

In my humble "belieforiented" opinion........watch out whose advice you follow!!!! . Many people come across very cocky and selfconfident and pontificate about things they have not got the faintest idea about. No offence to anybody, but a lot is second hand knowledge. It stands to reason that if you are not sure .....be careful. I will tell you what I have experienced based on my reality and experience, that is, if you are interested.
Regards Mustardseed

[Shadow20205]

I have to agree with vik there are always demons lerking evin if u cant see them , most aren't evil even if they were they would have better things to do then terrorize you your whole life and if they wanted to kill you you would propably already be dead.[8D]

[Nayru]

quote:Originally posted by Mustardseed

In my humble "belieforiented" opinion........watch out whose advice you follow!!!! . Many people come across very cocky and selfconfident and pontificate about things they have not got the faintest idea about. No offence to anybody, but a lot is second hand knowledge. It stands to reason that if you are not sure .....be careful. I will tell you what I have experienced based on my reality and experience, that is, if you are interested.
Regards Mustardseed

I am sincerely hoping you are not aiming this post to me. If you are, then it might be a good idea to tell you that all the information I post are my own experience, and if it isn't, I always say that.
But in general, I entirely agree with you. ^.^

[Silocon]

quote:Originally posted by Kato

Some demons are evil and some are not. Never temp demons because as a master of fighting demons will chalenge you.

So in otherwords your saying don't 'tic' them off?Well I just need to get this out,so I can understand it more:Demons can not be seen yet they can still harm you?And one more thing how do I 'tic' off a demon,I mean why would I want to bother a demon,I just want to understand life more and how it works not to fight,and how can you fight something that can only be seen with your third eye?Thanks in return.[]

[sargon]

A Demon's sole purpose is to be evil. That is why we call them demons! My god the darkness of this world has blinded many. The reason they stay 'nuetral' is probably to keep a low profile, the demons are getting stronger these days and not all will just be 'nuetral'. Train hard.

[Silocon]

quote:Originally posted by sargon

A Demon's sole purpose is to be evil. That is why we call them demons! My god the darkness of this world has blinded many. The reason they stay 'nuetral' is probably to keep a low profile, the demons are getting stronger these days and not all will just be 'nuetral'. Train hard.

Yeah but what can we do about,just leave it to god and his angels.We are not strong enough to fight them,unless..........some of us our chosen to do such a task.I mean think about it for amoment 'us' humans fight being's beyond this world,its somewhat impossible.But if we were chosen(like it was our destiny)then what I just said makes no sence...ohwell...

[Nayru]

quote:Originally posted by Silocon

quote:Originally posted by Kato

Some demons are evil and some are not. Never temp demons because as a master of fighting demons will chalenge you.

So in otherwords your saying don't 'tic' them off?Well I just need to get this out,so I can understand it more:Demons can not be seen yet they can still harm you?And one more thing how do I 'tic' off a demon,I mean why would I want to bother a demon,I just want to understand life more and how it works not to fight,and how can you fight something that can only be seen with your third eye?Thanks in return.[]

No, you cannot see them, unless you go to the astral plane or something, but they are still able to harm you, and you are still able to harm them, even if you can't see them. How? Psionically. A lot of demons, if not all, have strong Psionic abilities.
But be careful. They may be not 'evil' but a lot have a short temper.

Sargon, you are aiming at the Demons from the Bible there, not the Astral ones. I don't know why they called the Astral ones demons, maybe because some of them look rather.. eh, unpleasant.

Silocon, why would we need to fight demons? If it ever comes to a fight, you will only be able to fight one with some strong willpower and psionic skills.

We are not chosen to fight them, or, there's no proof for that yet. I don't see why we should be fighting demons, since God created them as good as He created us. There are a lot of 'dimensions', 'planes', whatever you want to call them. On the Astral plane, you can find demons. On this plane here, you can find humans, etc. I don't think God created the Astral and it's habitants so that we can kill them.

[Mustardseed]

I am sincerely hoping you are not aiming this post to me. If you are, then it might be a good idea to tell you that all the information I post are my own experience, and if it isn't, I always say that.
But in general, I entirely agree with you. ^.^
[/quote]

Yes I was actually talking about you too. I believe that statements like the one above is detrimental and could potentially become a big problem for someone. Maybe you should consider that you could be wrong.Have you thought about that possibility. Even if it is your ownb experience it could still be wrong.
REgards Mustardseed

[Nayru]

I certainly did think of that possibility. But every single thing I write about demons is not information I occasionaly found on the Internet, as many others did, like those 'demonicwar'-believers. Every single line is of my own experience and I share them hoping I can help or inform people more on the subject. Whether you believe me or not is upon you; if you do not believe me, that is your own choice. I say what I think I have to say, and you may do with it whatever you want to; accept it, laugh at it, growl, shove it up your butt; honestly, I couldn't really care less. ^.^

[Mustardseed]

(You said)I say what I think I have to say, and you may do with it whatever you want to; accept it, laugh at it, growl, shove it up your butt; honestly, I couldn't really care less. ^.^

(answer)Ok thanks for the clarification. It is your opinion! My opinion differs. So therefore the person in question should make up his/her own mind and use common sense and if there is a possibility that you could be wrong and that Demons are not harmless, caution would be in order.

Regards Mustardseed

Rude behaviour and using words like the ones you used above is just that.... Rude. I have my opinion you have yours, lets keep it nice ok.

[Anonymous]

Hey Silicon wouldn't the demons be fighting beings from beyond their world too.  Haaaa point of view can be startling sometimes.

[Mustardseed]

They do

[xander]

quote:Originally posted by sargon

A Demon's sole purpose is to be evil.

According to the xian definition yes. However, not all demons are of xian origin. There are various demons for every culture and not all are evil.

The xian word demon comes from the greek word daemon which is defined as a helper spirit that can be either good or evil. In a sense they're rather like humans with varying degrees of good/evil.

you must also define good/evil. what may be good for me my be evil for you and vice versa.

Xander

[kakkarot]

actually, the christian view of demons comes from the jewish religion and is therefore defined by the hebrew language, not the greek.

~kakkarot