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Energy Body and The Chakras => Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras => Topic started by: Tom on March 20, 2003, 13:44:25

Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Tom on March 20, 2003, 13:44:25
Moving the energy from the crown to the feet is just as good as from the feet to the crown chakra. With some practice you might get both directions flowing at the same time. You can also alternate them, one with the inbreath and one on the outbreath. Kundalini is triggered by holding the upward moving current (prana) and the downward moving current (apana) in the navel chakra after reversing them.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: rodentmouse on March 20, 2003, 15:18:09
Tom  what evidence/experience  do you have  to  verify that  crown  to feet is  just as good?   could  you elaborate please?

both  directions flowing  at the same  time seems incredible,  can  you  do it??   is  it more benefitial  than  just  up,  down  etc?

i  would  prefer  to  activly  encourage kundalini arousal  Tom,  are  you saying  that downward energy  flow  will not  at all  stimulate it?  

i  thought general concentration of energy  in and around the coxys  aroused it  up or  down....
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Tom on March 20, 2003, 16:11:13
One of my teachers suggesting bringing the energy from the crown down to the feet instead of the other way around. He said that it is more grounding and that bringing the energy up to the crown caused dizziness in himself and several of his students. There was a book I read about kundalini and chakras (I forgot the title and authors as this was several years ago and at the time I was only reading for my own benefit) that said that it is important to keep an upward flowing currant balanced by a downward moving currant. It said that if more energy is moving one way than the other it could cause imbalance and discomfort. It suggesting alternating the directions and then moving both directions at once. At first I just rapidly alternated between moving energy up and down, but now it is no more difficult to send energy up and down at the same time than it is to split the energy between both arms or legs. I have not found more benefit from a particular direction or combination of directions. The most important thing has just been to keep the energy moving.

Hatha yoga uses pranayama and bandhas to stimulate the kundalini into motion. Mulabhanda especially. The purpose behind the asanas is to prepare for pranayama. The bandhas keep the extra energy from draining out of the chakras. I have included some information from a web site on mulabhanda.

http://www.focalpointyoga.com/bandhas_-_energy_locks.htm

Mulabhanda - also known as Root Lock, Core Lift and The Squeeze

NOTE: The muscles used here are also very close to the sexual organs, and until you learn to isolate and strengthen the pelvic floor (perineum) muscles, you will also be contracting musculature close to the sexual organs. For many people, this can bring up sexual energy. If this happens for you, relax the body and release any tension, then do a few rounds of Kapalabhati breathing. This will help dissipate some of that energy. Also, focus on drawing that energy up the spinal column into your head and your heart. Visualization is a powerful tool, and consciously guiding this energy up the body can help give you greater mental and physical energy in the body. I recommend practicing these techniques in a location where the release of sexual energy will not cause any problems for you, until you learn to isolate the muscles without releasing that energy in an uncontrolled way.

Mulabhanda (also known as the Root Lock or Core Lift). This lock increases and holds energy in the first and second chakras, channeling dormant energy from the base of the spine. It contracts the rectum, sexual organs, and navel. This is similar to a Keggle exercise, for those who are familiar with that technique.  

To engage Mulabhanda, inhale deeply. As you exhale, contract and draw in the anal sphincter muscles, as though you were holding in a bowel movement. Then contract the muscles of the urethra, as though you needed to urinate and had to hold it in. Finally, contract your abdominal muscles in, pulling the navel back towards your spine. Some people find it useful to contract the muscles 1 inch below the navel and 2 inches into the body.  At first, you will be contracting the muscles of the buttocks as you learn this technique.  Eventually, you will be able to isolate the perineum (muscles of the pelvic floor between the anus and the genitals, which holds your organs inside the pelvis).  Once you can isolate the perineal muscles, you will be able to lift just the center of the perineum and rather than a large contraction pulling the whole floor up and into your body, you will be able to use a subtle contraction, lifting just the center of the perineum like a gentle pinch lifting a tissue.

Inhale, release, exhale, engage. To strengthen the muscles, hold the root lock as long as possible before releasing. Eventually, you will be able to hold it on both the inhalation and exhalation by isolating the muscles of the perineum (pelvic floor), but at first, it will probably move with your breath.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Ash on March 20, 2003, 19:19:05
In acupuncture theory, there are several major and lots of minor meridians that carry energy through the body. Of the major ones, half go up and half go down. It seems to make sense. I think of it like veins and arteries, some carry energy in and some out. I agree with Tom, I think it's important to balance them. But also, when you work in one direction you also strengthen the other. The goal is a good clear FLOW of energy, not to take energy and move it somewhere else, and leave it there. In my opinion, anyways.

Do what feels comfortable for you, and if it works, it works!
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Tom on March 20, 2003, 20:34:40
Leaving energy in one place is bad. :) That is not quite what I meant by keeping it from draining out of the chakras. It is just that the energy has to be kept in place long enough to trigger an effect. It is not a condition to be maintained indefinitely.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: ralphm on March 20, 2003, 20:48:45
We have energy flows both up from the earth thru our feet and down through our crown. Whatever feels better is not wrong, however I would not stop doing the other direction totally.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: rodentmouse on March 21, 2003, 16:56:51
thanks  for  the feedback folks  :D

Tom  do  you  practise hatha  yoga?   and  have  you  aroused   your  kundalini??


Tom,  by  clenching  the  buttocks  as if  you  were holding  in a  bowel  movement  will  that   encourage  kundalini  arousal and/or  is  it  good  for  exercising  the  base chakra??

my  base  chakra  is  very  weak (if  thats the  correct term)  and  i  want  to  develop it-  will  that  buttock  clenching  exercise help me  to  do so???

my  theory  on  energy  flow  being  easier  in a downwards motion  is  that  our bodies  are used to being  pulled down by  the earths  gravity.

Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2003, 18:44:26
The base chakra is located halfway between the anus and genitals. So is the perineum. The idea is to locate the perineum and just tense it up so as to keep energy from leaking out the base chakra. Mulabhanda removes blockages from both the base and second chakra. It also caused the higher bandhas to automatically be put in place when done correctly.

Yes, I do yoga ... just nowhere near as much as I'd like.

According to two people who have observed me in person, my kundalini has been partially activated for a few years now. I don't know what to think exactly. It feels like my life has been thoroughly disrupted for several years now.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: travisltk on March 22, 2003, 01:26:33
I would think this is because your crown is more active.
To me and the technique I use the energy naturally flows up.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Lysear on March 22, 2003, 05:22:18
The way that I always think of it is that energy comming from the crown is more spiritual, from the divine self and much more difficult. The energy from one of the physical elements such as earth (through the ground), air, fire, water is much easier to channel as you have experienced the physical manifestations of it.

thing is though, spritual energy may be more difficult in my opinion, but it is good because you get a kind of clensing while you activate the chakras.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: rodentmouse on March 22, 2003, 12:11:42
travis,   were  you reffering to me??   i   KNOW  my  brow  chakra  is  the most  active and only recently  discovered  that  my  awareness  is  ALWAYS    situated  there,  now,  when  i  relax  the  whole of  my head,  its a very strange feeling.

its  as if  ive  been  unconcsiouly  focusing  on it my whole life.

i  wonder if  it has  anything  to  do  with me  having  quite  a  big forehead.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: goingslow on March 22, 2003, 13:43:29
Is that why my gut is so big? cus my chakra there is the most active?

I found it kinda weird that RB stated to make sure you dont make the energy flow down.  However if certain currents need to flow up like the person said about meridians in accupuncture seems you wouldnt be doing any good by making them flow down.  I'd need more information before i start trying to make the energy flow down through the crown chakra towards the base  

You mentioned kundalini and from everything i've read it comes up through the spine.  I wouldnt go against philosophy thats been practiced for 100's of years just cus i believe the direction doesn't matter.  Sometimes things are done for a reason.. such as many monks etc who have practiced things for centuries found a real reason why things should be done a certain way.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: Tom on March 22, 2003, 14:21:51
Kundalini is usually described as starting at the base chakra and going up to the crown chakra, but this is only one possibility. It is unusual for the kundalini to be activated and to reach the crown chakra on the first attempt and then to stay there. It comes back down. It also moves to the sides. It fills the body.
Title: direction of energy flow question.
Post by: rodentmouse on March 20, 2003, 13:31:45
hello to the people :D

when practising  NEW,  i  find it much easier  to  start at the crown  and  channel  it  down  into  my feet rather  than  feet to crown.

since  this  wasnt  the way  Robert did it,  i have assumed  it  is  wrong, because  he  draws it  up throug his feet. But he also says  "what works, works"..

so,  if anyone  knows  weather  directing  the  energy  flow  down  rather than  up  is  wrong  in  some  way (for the energy body???)
then please say so.

it also seems  logical for the energy to travel up because it  has many connotations of  growth or evolution  to it...
e.g.
a  blooming flower, kundalini, tree of life, ascention etc....

i  recall  asking a question like  this a while ago,  but i dont remember much about it.